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Question 1 - does anyone ever really need more then 4GB of ram?

i now have 4GB and was thinking of adding 4GB more for $80 while i can still get this DDR2 1066 ram to fill the last 2 slots in my motherboard

all i do is mild gaming, nothing too demanding (silent hunter, Fallout - New Vegas), and web surfing stuff


Question 2 - my old video card im thinking its time i should upgrade, its a 8800GT 512mb onboard with the G92 chips.

i have $200 i can spend to upgrade this card but only if i can really "see" a difference since i dont really care about benchmarks and millisecond differences, i just want the best visable grafics for the money i spend and i'm pretty sure i really need more then a measly 512mb onboard ram for a video card these days

my listed specs ARE up to date
 
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4GB is enough. I would recommend a new VGA...maybe a 6850 or GTX460 or something along those lines. You will definately notice the difference. And I assume your 22" monitor is 1680x1050...is that correct?
 
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for your memory question, check this article out. It discusses possible benefits of going 8g-12g.

For you VC, it's one of the best times to upgrade! Even a 5770 will be a huge jump from a 8800gt, and you can get those for dirt cheap :D
 
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4GB is enough. I would recommend a new VGA...maybe a 6850 or GTX460 or something along those lines. You will definately notice the difference. And I assume your 22" monitor is 1680x1050...is that correct?
yep it this one here: http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?partno=2220WM-HAS&itemid=1440315771&rid=fd_10

as for the video card, i used to be a fan of Nvidia but then ATI took over because Nvidia stopped making new cards and only "renamed" the old ones and added a little memmory, so does Nvidia cards still suck right now or do they have anything that competes with ATI now
 
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What JATownes said :)
 
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6850 would be about double the speed of your 8800gt though i've seen open box 6870's for the same price so be on the look out

on the nv side 460 1gb or if you can find a deal on a gtx 470 (check for sale thread)
 
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for your memory question, check this article out. It discusses possible benefits of going 8g-12g.

For you VC, it's one of the best times to upgrade! Even a 5770 will be a huge jump from a 8800gt, and you can get those for dirt cheap :D
well that was interesting reading

if i read correctly my 64bit system is fully using all 4GB so an extra 4GB would be a wise addition in my case but a 32bit system wouldnt make use of it
 
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all i do is mild gaming, nothing too demanding (silent hunter, Fallout - New Vegas), and web surfing stuff
I agree it was an interesting read...but if you are looking for a "noticeable" upgrade...VGA all the way...you will NEVER notice the additional ram in day to day operations. Just my 2 cents. :toast:
 
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damn that does look like one heck of a good deal, if it wasnt sleezbay it would already be ordered but i dont trust them so its a deal buster for me and i'll have to keep looking

it does bring up the subject i was told to always get the xx70 series as the xx50's are just makeshift in between cards that often arent really better then the lower series xx70 cards they are suppost to replace but i take all advice with a grain of salt :p so was he full of BS

also any thoughts on this card guys: PowerColor Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

whats the true difference from 128bit to 256bit? is it noticable?
 
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Yes and no.....All variants are junked down versions of the master plan
 

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also any thoughts on this card guys: PowerColor Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

whats the true difference from 128bit to 256bit? is it noticable?
It largely has to do with the overall bandwidth available to the card, but it is really only useful in comparing apples to apples (which almost never happens: 2 cards with just the bus difference?).. case in point: while a GTX260 has a 384bit bus it is still roughly equal to the 5770 in terms of performance despite the 128bit bus of the 5770.

Go for what you can afford, the 6850 linked above is a VERY SWEET DEAL. But that 5770 you linked to is also quite good.

check this out: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/172?vs=178

EDIT: That 460 Jr linked to is a killer for the price!
 
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well how does the 6850 compare to the 460?

(and im not talking about the benchmark stats)

im asking in real world actual use are they about the same or is the 6850 much better?
 
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well how does the 6850 compare to the 460?

(and im not talking about the benchmark stats)

im asking in real world actual use are they about the same or is the 6850 much better?
umm ok outside of games most things run on the cpu so no difference lol.
 

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well how does the 6850 compare to the 460?

(and im not talking about the benchmark stats)

im asking in real world actual use are they about the same or is the 6850 much better?
That's more a personal preference, meaning which one do you like more ati or nvidia drivers?
 
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umm ok outside of games most things run on the cpu so no difference lol.
well i was more talking about what you "see" when your gaming then some benchmark score

like for instance your chart shows the 5850 as being almost 10% better then the 6850
 

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well i was more talking about what you "see" then some benchmark score

like for instance your chart shows the 5850 as being almost 10% better then the 6850
And that is true. It is about 10-12% better & the 460 is right around there also.
 
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well i was more talking about what you "see" when your gaming then some benchmark score

like for instance your chart shows the 5850 as being almost 10% better then the 6850
wiz reviews run games in closed loops to improve accuracy they are perfectly relevant to how each card will perform in relation to another when someone is gaming. this is different than say 3dmark where it's just guaging how soemthing handles new technologies.

so yes in the real word the 5850 is faster than the 6850 and that will show up when you play games. the question is whether that 7-10% is worth the extra 30$ noting that the 6850 i posted up will likely only be 5% slower than a stock 5850.
 
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ok so i can say:

the 460 is the same or equal to the 6850

and

the 470 is the same or equal to the 5850 or the 6870
 

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System Name Thought I'd be done with this by now
Processor i7 4790K 4.4GHZ turbo currently at 4.6GHZ at 1.16v
Motherboard MSI Z97-G55 SLI
Cooling Scythe Mugen 2 rev B (SCMG-2100), stock on gpu's.
Memory 8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series DDR3 2400MHZ 10-12-12-31
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 760 Superclocked replaced HIS R9 290 that was artifacting
Storage 1TB MX300 M.2 OS + Games, 4x ST31000524NS in Raid 10 Storage and Backup, external 2tb backup,
Display(s) BenQ GW2255 surprisingly good screen for the price.
Case Raidmax Scorpio 668
Audio Device(s) onboard HD
Power Supply EVGA 750 GQ
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores no one cares anymore lols
#24
ok so i can say:

the 460 is the same or equal to the 6850

and

the 470 is the same or equal to the 5850 or the 6870
overall yeah, they'll all trade blows but the difference will be minimal jus go for the best deal and really what's the point of a new gpu if you can't afford a new game to show it off?
 

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Processor i7 3930k: Xeon e5-2660
Motherboard MSI X79A-GD45 Plus : Generic
Cooling Liqid cooled: CM 212+
Memory Klevv Neo 2x4Gb 1866 @ 1600 CL9 : 2x8Gb Vengeance 1600 cl9
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 950 SC : XFX R5 220
Storage HGST 2TB + 480GB OCZ Trion 150 : Seagate 1TB SSHD + WD 3TB + 2x HGST 2TB
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Case DIYPC D480-W White Window : Bitfenix Comrade
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Power Supply EVGA 500b : Tt 775W Modular
Software Windows 7 Ultimate+Manjaro 16.06: Ubuntu Server 16.10
#25
Asus and Sapphire would be my top choices when it comes to ATi.