• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

upgrading agp to x1950pro

Joined
Aug 18, 2007
Messages
1,035 (0.27/day)
Likes
108
System Name mine
Processor 2600k@5.2ghz 1.41 vcore
Motherboard asrock z77 OC Formula
Cooling pa120.3, apogee HD, mcp655 pump
Memory 16gigs ddr3 1600mhz sammy's @ 1886
Video Card(s) evga gtx470 under water on a seperate loop
Storage Crucial M4 128gig SSD
Display(s) HP 2511x 25inch led
Case none ATM
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling 750watt seasonic x-1250watt(dead)
Software win 8 pro 64bit
#1
what brand would be better for overclocking? 256 or 512?

i'm upgrading from a x800xl, and moving that card into another machine that has a 9700pro in it. moving the 9700 to my moms pc. that way we all win.

mostly wondering if i should get a powercooler, saphire, or his. or any that i missed

my specs are listed if interested
 

InnocentCriminal

Resident Grammar Amender
Joined
Feb 21, 2005
Messages
6,477 (1.38/day)
Likes
844
System Name BeeR 6
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K*
Motherboard ASUS Maximus V Gene (1155/Z77)
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 16GB Samsung Green 1600MHz DDR3**
Video Card(s) 4GB MSI Gaming X RX480
Storage 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Display(s) 27" Samsung C27F591FDU
Case Fractal Design Arc Mini
Power Supply Corsair HX750W
Software 64bit Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores *@ 4.6GHz **@ 2133MHz
#2
Welcome to the forums dude!

I can only comment on the Sapphire brand as that's the one I have - I think you can only get the AGP version in 512MB (I could very well be wrong) from Sapphire anyroad.

It's easy to OC this card - I use the Over-drive feature built into the Catalyst Control Center (CCC) as this will do everything for you - however, if you want to do things yourself I expect someone will suggest something better.

I'm not sure if ATiTool supports OC'ing on the X1950 Pro - the reason I had to stop using it was due to the fact it didn't have support. In fact I'll check now....

Awww balls!

I think GeCube make an AGP X1950XT in AGP... yeah they do but it's only a 256MB card.

Don't know what sort of price you're looking at, but for a bargin, eBay will probably have a decent 512MB Sapphire on their for cheap - which you can always replace the stock cooler and whack some decent thermal paste and a kick ass cooler!

You can always look at the HIS range of IceQ products... they've got a rather fat-ass cooler. :)

Hope this helps!
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 18, 2007
Messages
1,035 (0.27/day)
Likes
108
System Name mine
Processor 2600k@5.2ghz 1.41 vcore
Motherboard asrock z77 OC Formula
Cooling pa120.3, apogee HD, mcp655 pump
Memory 16gigs ddr3 1600mhz sammy's @ 1886
Video Card(s) evga gtx470 under water on a seperate loop
Storage Crucial M4 128gig SSD
Display(s) HP 2511x 25inch led
Case none ATM
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling 750watt seasonic x-1250watt(dead)
Software win 8 pro 64bit
#3
how dos the 7900gs stack up?

i just want pretty much the best, which one x1950pro or 7900gs. i rulled out the x1950xt seems gecube has problems with that one
 

InnocentCriminal

Resident Grammar Amender
Joined
Feb 21, 2005
Messages
6,477 (1.38/day)
Likes
844
System Name BeeR 6
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K*
Motherboard ASUS Maximus V Gene (1155/Z77)
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 16GB Samsung Green 1600MHz DDR3**
Video Card(s) 4GB MSI Gaming X RX480
Storage 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Display(s) 27" Samsung C27F591FDU
Case Fractal Design Arc Mini
Power Supply Corsair HX750W
Software 64bit Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores *@ 4.6GHz **@ 2133MHz
#4
I'd go for the X1950 Pro personally. Best thing I've ever bought. This review is probably the PCIe variants but it'll give you the same sort of idea I expect.
 

TXcharger

New Member
Joined
Jul 20, 2006
Messages
431 (0.10/day)
Likes
2
Location
SAN ANTONE, TX
Processor Intel Prescott 3.0ghz with HT o/c to 3.5ghz
Motherboard Biostar P4M80-M4 (agp)
Cooling AIR!! with Arctic Silver 5 on processor and vga
Memory 2gb(1gb x 2) OCZ high performance PC3200 3-3-3-8
Video Card(s) Sapphire X800gto r430 445/545(1100 effective) w/ Zalman FATALITY fan and Omega Drivers 3.8.360
Storage Maxtor 80gb 7200rpm
Display(s) 19in dell flatscreen LCD
Case Dell Dimension 3000
Audio Device(s) Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Xtreme Gamer
Power Supply stock 350 watt
Software Windows XP sp2
#5

Pinchy

New Member
Joined
Apr 29, 2006
Messages
5,105 (1.20/day)
Likes
270
Location
Sydney, Australia
System Name UltraPC
Processor E8500 Core 2 Duo, 1333Mhz FSB, 3.16Ghz @ 4.5GHz (got into Windows @ 4.75GHz)
Motherboard ASUS P5Q-e
Cooling CPU Cooler - TT V14 Pro, 2x120mm CM Blue LED fans, 1x90mm CM Blue LED fan
Memory G.Skill Pi 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel DDR2 PC8000 (1000MHz), 5-5-5-15
Video Card(s) Sapphire HD4850 512mb with ASUS EAH4850 BIOS
Storage 2x 500GB Seagate 7200.12 Raid 0
Display(s) Acer AL1912, 19" LCD screen
Case Thermaltake Soprano Black ATX case
Audio Device(s) Onboard 7.1, Speakers - 5 + Sub + Monitor speakers
Power Supply Thermaltake 850W Toughpower Cable Management - Quad (2x18A and 2x30A) 12V rails
Software Win 7 Pro x64, MSN, CS:Source, etc etc
#6
X1950 PRO is more powerful than the 7900GS.

If you want the best AGP card, you can get a 7950GT AGP, but it will be costly ;).


In regards to the original question, the brands don't really matter, its more about the cooling. The brands you mentioned are all reputable, so they shouldnt give problems (unless you get a bad card, which is rare). Get the card thats cheapest/has best cooling/has good warranty.

The X1950 PRO's don't overclock *that* much anyways (you can OC with ATi tool with driver level overclocking, but you wont get much higher than ATi overdrive), and the slight overclock doesnt give that much of a performance increase.

Memory size (256mb vs 512mb) doesnt make a difference when it comes to overclocking. The only time you will get a performance increase with 512mb is if you are playing games on a large screen or a screen with lots of pixels.

Hope this helps ;).
 
Joined
Aug 18, 2007
Messages
1,035 (0.27/day)
Likes
108
System Name mine
Processor 2600k@5.2ghz 1.41 vcore
Motherboard asrock z77 OC Formula
Cooling pa120.3, apogee HD, mcp655 pump
Memory 16gigs ddr3 1600mhz sammy's @ 1886
Video Card(s) evga gtx470 under water on a seperate loop
Storage Crucial M4 128gig SSD
Display(s) HP 2511x 25inch led
Case none ATM
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling 750watt seasonic x-1250watt(dead)
Software win 8 pro 64bit
#7
thanks for the info

i think i'll get this 1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161071

i'm not worried about heat i have zalman's on all my other vid cards. i'll change this 1 also.

will i see a noticable improvment over my old x800xl?

i mostly play bf2 when i play fps, but i'm also really into silkroad online

if anyone else plays SRO chime in, my guild plays on babel

ty for all the info guy's
 

InnocentCriminal

Resident Grammar Amender
Joined
Feb 21, 2005
Messages
6,477 (1.38/day)
Likes
844
System Name BeeR 6
Processor Intel Core i7 3770K*
Motherboard ASUS Maximus V Gene (1155/Z77)
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 16GB Samsung Green 1600MHz DDR3**
Video Card(s) 4GB MSI Gaming X RX480
Storage 256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD
Display(s) 27" Samsung C27F591FDU
Case Fractal Design Arc Mini
Power Supply Corsair HX750W
Software 64bit Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores *@ 4.6GHz **@ 2133MHz
#8
Yeah I would have thought you'd notice an increase in performance with your same settings. I find the X1950 Pro holds its own with higher resolutions with high details. I play most of my games (including BF2) with most settings on High Quality with decent AA enabled. I want best performance with image quality, even if that means I have a frame rate of 40. Which I hardly get, usually higher.