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upgrading from AMD TL-58 to TL-68

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Hello everyone. I'm new to computer modding and this forum. I've done a lot of reading and searching but some things remain unclear. I currently have a Toshiba Satellite which I'm trying to setup for pure school use as my Toshiba Quosimo is just too big to haul around that much. I currently have the AMD Turion TL-58 and I've read that the AMD TL-68 is compatible. What I'm unsure of is the fact that the TL-58 has G1 core stepping and the TL-68 has G2 core stepping. Also I've read that I need to change my 667 MHz ram to 800 MHz ram which is what the TL-68 runs at. Is there a compatibility issue with the different core stepping? Is the change in ram necessary? Will the computer need to be reflashed for the TL-68? Hopefully I have provided enough info on my situation but if there is anything else I need to share please let me know.

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Only Toshiba Tech Support can really answer your questions unfortunately,

Unless a member her has or has had the laptop and tried to change the CPU then the chances of you getting a definitive answer will be extremely difficult.

My only suggestion is to look at the loadouts or setups that your laptop was available in - if one of them included a CPU from the same core stepping then it should work just fine.

really, theres no way to find out unless you try it out yourself. and knowing Toshiba Tech Support, you will be hard pressed to get an answer from then as their first line staff arent trained to answer such questions and you need to get through to one of their engineers which is another story entirely.

if you want to speed things up, I recommend putting in an SSD in,
 
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Only Toshiba Tech Support can really answer your questions unfortunately,

Unless a member her has or has had the laptop and tried to change the CPU then the chances of you getting a definitive answer will be extremely difficult.

My only suggestion is to look at the loadouts or setups that your laptop was available in - if one of them included a CPU from the same core stepping then it should work just fine.

really, theres no way to find out unless you try it out yourself. and knowing Toshiba Tech Support, you will be hard pressed to get an answer from then as their first line staff arent trained to answer such questions and you need to get through to one of their engineers which is another story entirely.

if you want to speed things up, I recommend putting in an SSD in,
Yeah Toshiba support is useless. I already tried that and after getting mad and yelling at two people I gave up and hung up Hahaha. I've considered a SSD but ones with 200 gigs + are really pricey and not worth it for this lap top. I already have a seagate hdd 750 gig and 7200 rpms which I got for a super good price. Anyways, I am able to get the TL-68 for around $60 but if it doesnt work then I gotta eat the cost. I'm just trying to get as much info as possible before I give it a try. Oh and btw both processors have s1g1 connectors and the TL-68 runs a little warmer at 35w versus 31w. But from what I've read the currently equipped heat sinks and fan should be able to handle it...?
 
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Do you have the exact model number of your laptop? - it would help to know
 
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Yeah sorry bout that. It's a satellite A215-S7444
 

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Sorry for the wait - I was at work.

While looking at this laptop, Id have to say its a fairly hit or miss. there is not that much distance between the CPU and GPU heatsink (hopefully im looking at the right image - your laptop has a dedicated ATi card?)

If you went ahead with it, i think it would most likely suffer from thermal shutdowns when tasks get a little too intense,

I dont recommend the upgrade but you are free to try it
 
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Sorry for the wait - I was at work.

While looking at this laptop, Id have to say its a fairly hit or miss. there is not that much distance between the CPU and GPU heatsink (hopefully im looking at the right image - your laptop has a dedicated ATi card?)

If you went ahead with it, i think it would most likely suffer from thermal shutdowns when tasks get a little too intense,

I dont recommend the upgrade but you are free to try it
It has a ATI Radeon X1200 128 MB-319 MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory...whatever that means?

I've read about other guys doing the upgrade and it working. They noticed a night and day difference in the speed of they laptop and they noted that it got a little warmer however they weren't using any extra cooling. I have a fan base that I use on occasion when I run it long and hard :D. They just never mentioned whether they had to change the ram or change the bios? Btw, how do I upgrade or update the bios? Is it a complicated process. What is the point?

On a different note, is there a way to increase the size or capability of the heat sinks or another upgrade to help the internal cooling? I have read about the AIO liquid coolers but that seems like a custom job...expensive and complicated. Any advice or suggestions for extra cooling besides a fan base?
 

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'dynamically allocated shared graphics memory' means that the ram is taken out of the system ram when it needs to. another term that ATi/AMD use is 'hyper-memory'


If other guys tried it and it works completely fine then you have nothing to lose.

to upgrade the bios, Toshiba would normally give you an executable file that would do the work for you, just click it, wait a few seconds for it to load then it will ask to restart your laptop and it will continue from then on till its complete.

Unfortunately, there are no ways to improve the internal cooling apart from making more vents on the bottom of the laptop.
 
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Good to know. Btw thanks for the the help. I appreciate you being patient with me. I know how annoying it can be with new people to computer modding.