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Yeah, that's still whining. Your opinion about the price has no merit without the context of performance to grant a perspective of overall value, especially given that the proposed prices are significantly lower than the previous gen cards and are on par with the GTX10xx series cards.

Ok, how do you qualify your opinion? Are you saying that because you can't afford them?
I guess we should agree to disagree, we just have different ways to evaluate value.
 
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Yeah, that's still whining. Your opinion about the price has no merit without the context of performance to grant a perspective of overall value, especially given that the proposed prices are significantly lower than the previous gen cards and are on par with the GTX10xx series cards.
I remember when Turing was coming out and the prices were announced, people were shocked a bit how much more NV wants for the cards. Stating that this bump, is due to the tensor cores etc.
Now you get prices for new NV release and everyone is ok with it. It is kinda funny though but I guess NV's trick payed off.
 
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It is kinda funny though but I guess NV's trick payed off.
It's a trick older than the world. You take away 2 things from somebody, they are frustrated. Give them back one thing, now they are happy ...
 
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It's a trick older than the world. You take away 2 things from somebody, they are frustrated. Give them back one thing, now they are happy ...
Exactly this bro. Thanks.
One adjustment. You give them one back a bit tweaked with the price bump and everyone is happy and celebrating.
 
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Overclockers.co.uk have had prices for a little while now...
 
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Yeah, that's still whining. Your opinion about the price has no merit without the context of performance to grant a perspective of overall value, especially given that the proposed prices are significantly lower than the previous gen cards and are on par with the GTX10xx series cards.

Ok, how do you qualify your opinion? Are you saying that because you can't afford them?

Consumers they are justified whining, this is not pricing list, this resembles more to Gamers guillotine.
But I bet that NVIDIA stockholders (investors) they will also start whining too, because the miracle this looks as tremendously expensive at consumers and their wallets.
 
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Very few people will buy those cards, steam survey showed 5700xt and RTX cards are non existent, people still game on gtx 1060 and similar cards.
When the times comes that gtx 1060 can't run games even on low settings maybe then people will upgrade to something.
 
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Very few people will buy those cards, steam survey showed 5700xt and RTX cards are non existent, people still game on gtx 1060 and similar cards.
When the times comes that gtx 1060 can't run games even on low settings maybe then people will upgrade to something.

I love talking with facts, and therefore in the market of Greece, vast majority of home users (plus gaming), will spent 150 Euro max.
I am willing to pay up to 210 Euro for one ASUS GTS 1660 Super, with quality cooling system.
I do not care of what 3D developers or Gamers (gaming professionally and making money) they will select.
 

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Very few people will buy those cards, steam survey showed 5700xt and RTX cards are non existent, people still game on gtx 1060 and similar cards.
When the times comes that gtx 1060 can't run games even on low settings maybe then people will upgrade to something.
I love talking with facts, and therefore in the market of Greece, vast majority of home users (plus gaming), will spent 150 Euro max.
I am willing to pay up to 210 Euro for one ASUS GTS 1660 Super, with quality cooling system.
I do not care of what 3D developers or Gamers (gaming professionally and making money) they will select.
Considering $700 is more than the average income in many countries, you are both correct, no one will argue with that.
What surprised me is that Turing sold. At the same prices. Which only tells me Ampere will sell, too (of course, the cards just announced won't sell as much as their mainstream counterparts, but that's another story), thus prices are unlikely to back down anytime soon :(
 
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What surprised me is that Turing sold. At the same prices.
Turing's problem was not that bang/$ was straight up bad. The problem was lack of improvement in bang/$. If you were buying new, Pascal no longer made sense and Navi/Supers made a small but noticeable step towards better.
 

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Turing's problem was not that bang/$ was straight up bad. The problem was lack of improvement in bang/$. If you were buying new, Pascal no longer made sense and Navi/Supers made a small but noticeable step towards better.
Well, that is not necessarily true. In RTRT department, Turing brought a hell of a bang/$ improvement.
Imho, its problem was the overall high prices. Obviously, a lot of people disagree with that, since Turing actually sold.
 
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Now you get prices for new NV release and everyone is ok with it. It is kinda funny though but I guess NV's trick payed off.
That is because the current prices are on par with the Pascal GTX 10xx series cards. It wasn't a "trick". NVidia invested A LOT of money into hardware based RTRT R&D and they needed to recover that money. It's as simple as that.

Folding At Home,.. then :D
That would be a very good use. It's a different kind of compute so the yield rate is measured differently.
 
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Considering $700 is more than the average income in many countries, you are both correct, no one will argue with that.
What surprised me is that Turing sold. At the same prices. Which only tells me Ampere will sell, too (of course, the cards just announced won't sell as much as their mainstream counterparts, but that's another story), thus prices are unlikely to back down anytime soon :(

This is not whining ( I am making this declaration so to avoid any comment from the dear @lexluthermiester) :)
Last night I was thinking (off-line) that the market this is not an empty pit, so the new coming hardware this to be easily be adopted (find customers).
Those days there is saturation within VGA market, I have a friend computers builder he did invest getting an GTS 2070 so to demonstrate advanced 3D performance at his customers.
Today he was whining to me, that the 3000 is on the corner and even so there is no demand even for the GTS 2070.

I am suspecting that lack of demand this it will happen also in the market of used cards, no one will be easily push a used GTS 2070 so him to get a fresher one, therefore even the market of used this will be saturated.

We have a saying in Greece: This period of time this is harsh even if you are a prince = revaluate your priorities and act wise all times.
 
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This is not whining ( I am making this declaration so to avoid any comment from the dear @lexluthermiester) :)
:laugh::toast:
Last night I was thinking (off-line) that the market this is not an empty pit, so the new coming hardware this to be easily be adopted (find customers).
Those days there is saturation within VGA market, I have a friend computers builder he did invest getting an GTS 2070 so to demonstrate advanced 3D performance at his customers.
Today he was whining to me, that the 3000 is on the corner and even so there is no demand even for the GTS 2070.

I am suspecting that lack of demand this it will happen also in the market of used cards, no one will be easily push a used GTS 2070 so him to get a fresher one, therefore even the market of used this will be saturated.

We have a saying in Greece: This period of time this is harsh even if you are a prince = revaluate your priorities and act wise all times.
This is not whining of course. You're offering an opinion based on speculation of a particular set of circumstances and perspective. I think you're right, the used market will be saturated as that has already begun.
 

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:laugh::toast:

This is not whining of course. You're offering an opinion based on speculation of a particular set of circumstances and perspective. I think you're right, the used market will be saturated as that has already begun.
To your knowledge, is this different from previous GPU launches? I mean, is it particular to Turing or is it business as usual?
 
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To your knowledge, is this different from previous GPU launches? I mean, is it particular to Turing or is it business as usual?
You mean the used market being saturated during a release of a new gen of GPU? Yeah, it's happened a few times. The GTX2XX series of card were so good and priced so well that the previous gen(GT/GTX 9XXX) ended up becoming very cheap in the used market. Same thing happened with the 7XXX series when the 8XXX series came out and just stomped the market. Radeons have had some of those experiences as well.

This just happened!
Kyle has a 3080?!? NDA should still be in effect...
Jay did one too!
 
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The new graphics from NV are compatible with Free sync monitors aren't they?
 
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