Vega 56 disapointing, when are amd gonna realease new gaming cards?

[eidairaman1]

Ahhhhhh ok. Well once you get into the GTX 1070 range (where the Vega 56 comfortably sits) you are always going to have more heat and noise, but that's the trade off; better performance with more heat and noise. Solution? Have a good cooling solution and invest in some nice gaming headphones

Exactly. If anything he could of gotten a Vega56 Nitro+

 

[gasolin]

I have tried gtx 1060 and gtx 1080 even a gtx 1080 with 2 fans isn't to hot,noisy

I don't know why amd didn't make anything between a rx 580 and vega 56

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

I have tried gtx 1060 and gtx 1080 even a gtx 1080 with 2 fans isn't to hot,noisy

i don't know why amd didn't make anything between a rx 580 and vega 56

Sapphire's Nitro series makes the best AMD cards hands down- they will perform the best, but also be less noisy and cooler. As long as you have good airflow, heat shouldn't be an issue.

The reason AMD didn't make anything between the RX 580 and Vega 56 is because that would be pointless. The RX 580 is essentially re revamp of the R9 390X which is at the very top of mid tier- with the Vega 56 you start breaking into the high end AMD GPU market.

 

[eidairaman1]

Sapphire's Nitro series makes the best AMD cards hands down- they will perform the best, but also be less noisy and cooler. As long as you have good airflow, heat shouldn't be an issue.

The reason AMD didn't make anything between the RX 580 and Vega 56 is because that would be pointless. The RX 580 is essentially re revamp of the R9 390X which is at the very top of mid tier- with the Vega 56 you start breaking into the high end AMD GPU market.

He doesnt get it at all smh.

 

[gasolin]

Sapphire's Nitro series makes the best AMD cards hands down- they will perform the best, but also be less noisy and cooler. As long as you have good airflow, heat shouldn't be an issue.

The reason AMD didn't make anything between the RX 580 and Vega 56 is because that would be pointless. The RX 580 is essentially re revamp of the R9 390X which is at the very top of mid tier- with the Vega 56 you start breaking into the high end AMD GPU market.

No rx 480

I so the settings called chill any with experience with that setting?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Most graphics cards will run hot. Even my 1080 ti ftw3 will run hot I can keep it under 65c at 75% fan speed

 

[R0H1T]

Can you start posting normally, maybe that'll help?

 

[king of swag187]

MY 1080 TI gets around 70C at max with low fans and stock paste
The new 7NM AMD cards are coming this year for Business clients, and likely early Spring for consumer/prosumer GPUs
When undervolted and OC'd, Vega 56 is great for the right price ($300-350)

 

[eidairaman1]

MY 1080 TI gets around 70C at max with low fans and stock paste
The new 7NM AMD cards are coming this year for Business clients, and likely early Spring for consumer/prosumer GPUs
When undervolted and OC'd, Vega 56 is great for the right price ($300-350)

About time someone with sense is here

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

No rx 480

I so the settings called chill any with experience with that setting?

Yes use it, it will help with temps and noise but with you trying for 200 fps in all games it's gains will be limited.
Personally I set max framerate to 75 and switch this on@4k-2k (chill ,my nickname in work)it saves power and runs cooler ,im also undevolted ,try more power slider by 10% then drop volts by 25mv until it crashes while running a windowed graphics load then don't go that low again, 25mv higher should be stable in all games and it should in that state run well and fairly quiet.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Use Frame Rate Target Control (FRTC) in Radeon Settings to stop the GPU from trying to pump out as many frames as it can. 144 Hz monitor, set FRTC to 142 which should cause the temps to fall quite a bit.

 

[Fouquin]

80-99% gpu usage, even when i did get more fps i wasn't running the vega 56 at 99-100% usage.

Despite the gpu not being utilized,used 99-100% it got so hot that the fans was to noisy (for my taste) with my silent custom fan curve, unless i wanted to use different cooling solution (warranty) i could only make the card hotter (90c?) or more noisy (higher fan speed).

The 3 strix fans are good enough for the rx 580 not the vega 56/64.

You quite literally cannot under any circumstance exceed the maximum temperature of 85C on the Vega 56. It will downclock itself into oblivion to avoid exceeding the maximum thermal limit. This is the exact same thing any nVidia card will do, automatically downclock the core (generally from turbo down to stock) and increase fan speeds as far as possible to avoid the thermal limit (usually 83C for Pascal).

Use Frame Rate Target Control (FRTC) in Radeon Settings to stop the GPU from trying to pump out as many frames as it can. 144 Hz monitor, set FRTC to 142 which should cause the temps to fall quite a bit.

This. FRTC will save you a lot of headaches when it comes to thermals, as the GPU will only work as hard as you tell it to. Combine that with a conservative undervolt and you can usually expect to see both a drop in load power and thermals. Using both on a reference Vega 56 crammed into a Node 202 I see no higher than 77C load temps (1470-1530MHz) with a 14% - 42% fan curve. Any aftermarket card should decimate those numbers with similar settings.

It's certainly a drawback with Vega that it isn't as plug-and-play as nVidia, but AMD does provide all the tools you need to tune the card for your specific usage.

 

[eidairaman1]

You quite literally cannot under any circumstance exceed the maximum temperature of 85C on the Vega 56. It will downclock itself into oblivion to avoid exceeding the maximum thermal limit. This is the exact same thing any nVidia card will do, automatically downclock the core (generally from turbo down to stock) and increase fan speeds as far as possible to avoid the thermal limit (usually 83C for Pascal).



This. FRTC will save you a lot of headaches when it comes to thermals, as the GPU will only work as hard as you tell it to. Combine that with a conservative undervolt and you can usually expect to see both a drop in load power and thermals. Using both on a reference Vega 56 crammed into a Node 202 I see no higher than 77C load temps (1470-1530MHz) with a 14% - 42% fan curve. Any aftermarket card should decimate those numbers with similar settings.

It's certainly a drawback with Vega that it isn't as plug-and-play as nVidia, but AMD does provide all the tools you need to tune the card for your specific usage.

Problem was that the card was rushed out just to show that they were releasing something instead of trying to rely on the 580 as its Flagship card they just did not spend time trying to tweak it.

 

[king of swag187]

If 7NM Vega is going the way of Zen, it's gonna be nice. IMO it'll perform likely worse than Turing, but offer better value. Hopefully AMD gives up HBM 2 in favor of 16Gb/s GDDR6 it would be nice if they did so, would bringing down the entire cost of it immensely

 

[moproblems99]

You don't even need the Nitro. I have the pulse 56 and I don't think I have ever seen it go over 72C and the ambient temp in my room is about 27C. Top it off with the fact that I can't hear it over games/case fans. I haven't even bothered to UV or OC yet.

EDIT:

IMO it'll perform likely worse than Turing, but offer better value.

Which Touring, 2080TI or 2050?

 

[king of swag187]

You should get on the UV, it'lk remain even cooler.
As well, your room is very chilly compared to mine I wish I could boast a 27C ambient

 

[eidairaman1]

If 7NM Vega is going the way of Zen, it's gonna be nice. IMO it'll perform likely worse than Turing, but offer better value. Hopefully AMD gives up HBM 2 in favor of 16Gb/s GDDR6 it would be nice if they did so, would bringing down the entire cost of it immensely

They aren't giving up hbcc/hbm, they have their reason not to.

 

[MrGenius]

You quite literally cannot under any circumstance exceed the maximum temperature of 85C on the Vega 56.

I'm not sure how true that is. What I do know is you can raise the temp limits with the SoftPowerPlayTable mod. Which should let the card run hotter. I have a massive 360W air cooler(Morpheus II) and Conductonaut TIM on my Vega 64. Which I don't think will get anywhere near 85°C under any circumstance. Maybe with the fans unplugged. Don't know. Haven't tried it.

Anyway. The usTemperatureLimitTedge is the temp limit for the core.

 

[Fouquin]

Which I don't think will get anywhere near 85°C under any circumstance. Maybe with the fans unplugged. Don't know. Haven't tried it.

That's how I found out about the temp limit. Left the fan unplugged with the shroud off my Vega 56 to see if it could exceed 85C. GPU clock was at 455MHz before it equalized.

 

[king of swag187]

Even with throttling, you can exceed the temps limit, buts it's hard to unless you just take off the cooler

 

[Fouquin]

Even with throttling, you can exceed the temps limit, buts it's hard to unless you just take off the cooler

If you can I've never seen it.

 

[king of swag187]

Like I said, very hard, but possible if the underclocked GPU TDP can exceed the passive cooling

 

[fullinfusion]

Exactly. If anything he could of gotten a Vega56 Nitro+

What's your deal on the nitro+ cards? You really need to look around and dig a bit deeper to narrow down (nitro) a comment like that... Help me understand. There are for one example the power color Devil cards that clock like mad and are quiet out of the box. The OP is missing out on steps to Max the cards frequency and also how to change voltage and fan settings for a more desirable experience.. if the card isn't tuned right he won't get the full balls to the wall power in gaming.. I myself found the new SOTTR would only take the card to maybe 80% at stock settings, but change the profile of the card a tad and it's the difference between night and day. I play on a reference card and during gaming I don't hear a thing, change P state 6 and 7 to the given clocks and lower memory voltage along with core voltage and voila way lower power consumption + stable substainded clocks and low fan rpm.. I thought I taught you this once before on how it's done!?

OP @gasolin pm me and I'll post you a few profiles to load and test

 

[cucker tarlson]

He doesnt understand that going from a mid range to upper, temps are going to be higher its like going from a 1060 ti to 1070/ti or 1080/ti.

1080 has the same power draw and thermals as rx 570.

If he was okay with 580,he'd a slight improvement with 1080.

But then again,it's googleable so shame on him for picking Vega strix if he cares about quietness and temps.Should've gone with nitro+ or gtx.
tbh 580 is quite power hungry for mid-range and vega 56 is not as power hungry as 64, I think he shouldn't see such a big difference in thermals and noise as he says he does. He just went with a bad cooling solution,strix has been hit or miss on some of the high end gpus lately.It's the best cooler for 1080ti hands down, but that does not mean it's gonna be the best for Vega.

 

[gasolin]

I have 2 freesync monitors, thats why i have an amd card, i want to take advantage of freesync.

I would have like to try a vega 56 from sapphire but even the asus strix vega 56 cost more than a new msi gtx 1080 so the price difference is a little high compared to a asus rx 580 strix 8gb. (so hard to find used custom vega 56 in denmark where i live).

The sapphire vega 56 cost even more, the price is double of an asus dual rx 580 8 gb, i wanted the 580 in the strix version and try the strix vega 56, 3 fans on the 580 over a 2 fan design (although msi makes good 2 fan cooling solution) and the asus vega 56 strix is considerable cheaper than the sapphire vega 56 card.

Tried a simple uv by 50mv around 75mv it seems to get unstable,artifacts on both cards

For now i have -50mv on my rx 580, 35% fan at 70c, 45% at 80c and 100% at 90c. stock fan curve the fans where running more than 40% at temps under 60c.
My card,fans are very quiet and only get temps in the early 70's when playing.

When using the vega 56 i have returned, i was only getting a gpu usage of 80 to 99% (i5 8400), in games where i normally have a gpu usage of 99 to 100% with my rx 580, so i think my cpu isn't perfect for a vega 56. Evcen with my custom fan curve i sometimes gtx above 80 c and fans where running at more than 55%, 50% i noticeable and for my taste can't be considered quiet

I have read som reviews, but how am i gonna know if the asus strix vega 56 is a card for me, worth the price difference, if i didn't bought one and try the card, no one who reviews gpu's have the same setup as i do.

i5 8400 running most of the time 3.8-3.9 ghz on all cores, 16gb 3200mhz cl 14, 2x freesync 1080 monitors, samsung 970 for os and a 850 evo for games, evga supernova 650 p2, cooling 3x120mm +1x14mm cpu cooler scythe mugen 5 (very quiet and perfect for an i5 with 6 cores)

Atm in Denmark you get 3 amd games and 4 asus rog games + a 240gb ssd, although it's a cheap one from kingston you can't deny that it's faster than a harddrive (perfect for upgrading my moms pc), if you buy an asus rx 570 and up