Vega 56 to WX Pro 8200

[Ed-gein]

Has anyone tried flashing the vega 56 with the wx pro 8200 bios?

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/205876/amd-wx8200-8192-180922

Thanks!

 

[kastriot]

Tell us how it went, guinea pigs are always welcome.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Has anyone tried flashing the vega 56 with the wx pro 8200 bios?

https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/205876/amd-wx8200-8192-180922

Thanks!

I doubt it would flash it for the same reasons you can't flash a 64 to a founder's edition, I couldn't force flash it when I tried last time, if thing's have changed let us know.
Good luck

 

[MrGenius]

I doubt it would flash it for the same reasons you can't flash a 64 to a founder's edition, I couldn't force flash it when I tried last time, if thing's have changed let us know.

But you can flash a 64 to a FE. I've done it myself. With this FE 8GB BIOS on my reference 64(BTW...Frontier Edition you traitor!). Which you could probably flash on a reference 56 just as well(if it has Samsung HBM2, which I believe they all do). I don't recall hearing about anyone having tried it though.

However, it's probably not the same as flashing this Pro WX 8200 8GB BIOS. Since it has different display outputs than the reference 56 and 64. I don't think you'll find 4 mini-DisplayPorts on any 56 or 64(reference or not). Or 6 mini-DisplayPorts(if it really is a Pro WX 8100 BIOS).

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-wx-8100.c3271
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-wx-8200.c3303

 

[krykry]

Professional cards use memory with ECC, however.

 

[Ed-gein]

Well hopefully my new FE card comes in and actually works. All I need is it to do opencl, if not I think for the performace and power consumption Id order an RTX 4000.

I keep trying amd gpus and just since the 7900 series have been disappointed...

 

[MrGenius]

Professional cards use memory with ECC, however.

So does Vega 56/64(and any modern graphics card using GDDR VRAM). Non-issue. I just told you I did it. I guess I failed to mention that it worked perfectly afterwards too. So...less guessing...more knowing.

 

[Ed-gein]

So does Vega 56/64(and any modern graphics card using GDDR VRAM). Non-issue. I just told you I did it. I guess I failed to mention that it worked perfectly afterwards too. So...less guessing...more knowing.

Was flashing it to FE pretty stable? Last FE card I had was crashing every 5-10 min and locking up anything that was using gpu

 

[MrGenius]

Well hopefully my new FE card comes in and actually works. All I need is it to do opencl, if not I think for the performace and power consumption Id order an RTX 4000.

I keep trying amd gpus and just since the 7900 series have been disappointed...

Don't know what an RTX 4000 is. But I do know that AMD cards do OpenCL just fine. AMD's OpenCL implementation is awesome in fact. WAY better than Intel's(Intel CPUs even run OpenCL better with AMD's API).

Was flashing it to FE pretty stable? Last FE card I had was crashing every 5-10 min and locking up anything that was using gpu

100% stable. I even overclocked it with a PowerPlay mod.

 

[Ed-gein]

Don't know what an RTX 4000 is. But I do know that AMD cards do OpenCL just fine.
100% stable. I even overclocked it with a PowerPlay mod.

Thank you sir!

I am looking for a workstation card, so quadro or radeon pro wx series. But the FE was the same as like the pro wx 9100 spec wise

 

[Sandbo]

What's the motivation?
I thought now the Pro driver just works with gaming cards.
And for the FE, it is a Pro card and shouldn't show too much differences except for the ECC part from 9100 iirc.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

But you can flash a 64 to a FE. I've done it myself. With this FE 8GB BIOS on my reference 64(BTW...Frontier Edition you traitor!). Which you could probably flash on a reference 56 just as well(if it has Samsung HBM2, which I believe they all do). I don't recall hearing about anyone having tried it though.

However, it's probably not the same as flashing this Pro WX 8200 8GB BIOS. Since it has different display outputs than the reference 56 and 64. I don't think you'll find 4 mini-DisplayPorts on any 56 or 64(reference or not). Or 6 mini-DisplayPorts(if it really is a Pro WX 8100 BIOS).

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-wx-8100.c3271
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-pro-wx-8200.c3303

What version of atiflash did you use , ill be trying it again later.

 

[Ed-gein]

I dont think pro drivers work with gaming cards,

AMD Radeon™ Pro Software for Enterprise, only supports Windows® 10, and is compatible with the AMD Radeon™ Pro WX series (desktop only) and AMD Radeon™ Vega Frontier Edition graphics cards. It is incompatible with multi-GPU configurations and the AMD Radeon™ Pro Duo.

 

[MrGenius]

What's the motivation?
I thought now the Pro driver just works with gaming cards.
And for the FE, it is a Pro card and shouldn't show too much differences except for the ECC part from 9100 iirc.

My motivation was to get a better SPECviewperf 12 CREO score using the Pro drivers(which, no, you can't use on gaming cards), to submit to HWBOT. Which worked amazingly. More than quadrupled my score vs. the gaming drivers.

RX Vega 64 with gaming drivers
https://hwbot.org/submission/392172..._subtest_11_radeon_rx_vega_64_3.24_framessec/

RX Vega 64 flashed to FE with Pro drivers
https://hwbot.org/submission/399956..._subtest_11_radeon_rx_vega_64_14.37_framessec

And, one more time, all modern graphics cards use ECC memory(if they use HMB/HBM2 or GDDR). So the difference does not exist.

What version of atiflash did you use...

Pretty sure I used 2.84. But I'm sure 2.87 would work just as well.

 

[Ed-gein]

Yeah, Pro drivers make crazy difference for certain cad/cam applications.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

My motivation was to get a better SPECviewperf 12 CREO score using the Pro drivers(which, no, you can't use on gaming cards), to submit to HWBOT. Which worked amazingly. More than quadrupled my score vs. the gaming drivers.

RX Vega 64 with gaming drivers
https://hwbot.org/submission/392172..._subtest_11_radeon_rx_vega_64_3.24_framessec/

RX Vega 64 flashed to FE with Pro drivers
https://hwbot.org/submission/399956..._subtest_11_radeon_rx_vega_64_14.37_framessec

And, one more time, all modern graphics cards use ECC memory(if they use HMB/HBM2 or GDDR). So the difference does not exist.

Pretty sure I used 2.84. But I'm sure 2.87 would work just as well.

Im sure it was 2.84 i couldn't get it to flash with , anyway cheers ill be retrying later for unlocked volts And temps.

and was that really on air?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Im sure it was 2.84 i couldn't get it to flash with , anyway cheers ill be retrying later for unlocked volts And temps.

and was that really on air?

@MrGenius I also recalled what my issue was before,, the released Vega FE had 16GB memory afaik , I have never seen a 8GB FE and the 16GB bios refused to go on my card.

where n the how did this 8GB FE bios exist/come from , it looks pre release.

 

[MrGenius]

@theoneandonlymrk Yes, on air(Morpheus II).

It came from chiphell. Well...that's where everybody first heard of it anyway. Who knows who uploaded it to TPU?

https://www.overclock.net/forum/27709238-post1164.html

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

@theoneandonlymrk Yes, on air(Morpheus II).
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It came from chiphell. Well...that's where everybody first heard of it anyway. Who knows who uploaded it to TPU?

https://www.overclock.net/forum/27709238-post1164.html

I had a go with it it works perfectly, my expectations were too high though, so you can't overclock in pro driver's ?, Is that right.

 

[MrGenius]

I had a go with it it works perfectly, my expectations were too high though, so you can't overclock in pro driver's ?, Is that right.

That's right. You have to do the SoftPowerPlay mod to overclock. Once you have the .reg installed you can tweak it with the PPTable editor in OverdriveNTool(or with the Vega64SoftPowerTableEditor, and reinstall it after).