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Thermal Grizzly paste my friend, that's good for a 10c drop at the least. I used to use MX4 but my eyes were opened after TG was used. Tomorrow Nail polish to coat the transistors and CL metal for the copper cooler.. I know It will dry out but a few times will saturate it, the Gallium will soak in and I wont have to worrie about it after that.. Vega 64 Water bios here it come!
Got some on the way now.
 

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Got some on the way now.
did you get the liquid metal or Kryonaut paste? Also send me a pic of the Die, I'm curious if its a molded or un-molded package :toast:
 

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did you get the liquid metal or Kryonaut paste? Also send me a pic of the Die, I'm curious if its a molded or un-molded package :toast:
I got Kryonaught, not that great to work with. It’s definitely the moulded package it’s flat as a CPU IHS. Temps are better under load I suppose I was hoping for better idles as it hovers around 40 I was hoping for 30s. I’ll leave it for now but I was pretty happy with the MX-4 TBH
 
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Just noticed this thread, as you probably know from buy club I'm the new owner of HIS Vega 56 reference. I've done some several test on the card. The first thing I did was of course flashing to Vega 64 VBIOS. The flashed went well but since I have unmolded die the HBM temperature went all the way up to 90C so I flashed back to 56 VBIOS. My card equipped with Samsung HBM thus it was stable at default 64's 945MHz anyway. With stock VBIOS the max temps recorded while gaming is under 80C, usually settles around 77C and core temps are 2-3C below that. I repasted the card with Kryonaut.

Another thing I noticed is, when I ramp up the fan speed to keep the temps down, performance went up as well at the same clock tested with FireStrike. Faster fan = cooler temps = higher performance. The reported HBM changing timing depending on temperature is true then.
 

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Just noticed this thread, as you probably know from buy club I'm the new owner of HIS Vega 56 reference. I've done some several test on the card. The first thing I did was of course flashing to Vega 64 VBIOS. The flashed went well but since I have unmolded die the HBM temperature went all the way up to 90C so I flashed back to 56 VBIOS. My card equipped with Samsung HBM thus it was stable at default 64's 945MHz anyway. With stock VBIOS the max temps recorded while gaming is under 80C, usually settles around 77C and core temps are 2-3C below that. I repasted the card with Kryonaut.

Another thing I noticed is, when I ramp up the fan speed to keep the temps down, performance went up as well at the same clock tested with FireStrike. Faster fan = cooler temps = higher performance. The reported HBM changing timing depending on temperature is true then.
If you know about Vega and how to undervolt and overclock you shouldn't have any hbm temperature issues allbeit you added enough paste to cover the un molded package.. to be honest with you, you shouldn't even need to flash the 56 to a 64. I can get just as many points running firestrike -time spy or any other benchmark using the stock bios that came with the card.

You just can't assume that slapping a 64 bios on the card is going to magically make the card run a whole bunch faster.. stock versus stock yes the 64 is quicker, but once you spend some time playing with the 56 you'll understand what I'm talking about.

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If you know about Vega and how to undervolt and overclock you shouldn't have any hbm temperature issues allbeit you added enough paste to cover the un molded package.. to be honest with you, you shouldn't even need to flash the 56 to a 64. I can get just as many points running firestrike -time spy or any other benchmark using the stock bios that came with the card.

You just can't assume that slapping a 64 bios on the card is going to magically make the card run a whole bunch faster.. stock versus stock yes the 64 is quicker, but once you spend some time playing with the 56 you'll understand what I'm talking about.

PS. Welcome to the club
Yep after been using it for a while I flash it back to 56 and just use the powerplay table registry hack to use 64 table and it runs at 64 speed flawlessly. When checking firestrike scores it pretty much runs on par with 64 without any setbacks, with undervolt too!
 
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Hey guys, finally got my hands on a Vega 64.

Just one question, TPU database says GPU clock is supposed to be 1200 (1590 Boost) but mine is 1630Mhz and I haven't changed anything.
Its brand new and sealed. Is it supposed to be like that?
 

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Is it supposed to be like that?
That's how it normally should look. I don't get why they pretend like there are base and boost clocks with these cards. When there really aren't. They have P-states and AVFS(Adaptive Frequency and Voltage Scaling). Which is not the same thing...at all. But whatever. It doesn't really matter what you call it. It still sucks just the same. And I hate it. With a passion. :mad:
 

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That's how it normally should look. I don't get why they pretend like there are base and boost clocks with these cards. When there really aren't. They have P-states and AVFS(Adaptive Frequency and Voltage Scaling). Which is not the same thing...at all. But whatever. It doesn't really matter what you call it. It still sucks just the same. And I hate it. With a passion. :mad:
Agreed mine has hit 1600 max for maybe a moment or two. Most of the time it’s in the 1500-1530s or so but yeah this whole “dynamic” nonsense took a bit of getting used too. What’s fun is playing old games or indiesand it never ticks over 1056 which I do think is kinda neat
 
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It doesn't really matter what you call it. It still sucks just the same. And I hate it. With a passion.

Agreed mine has hit 1600 max for maybe a moment or two. Most of the time it’s in the 1500-1530s or so but yeah this whole “dynamic” nonsense took a bit of getting used too. What’s fun is playing old games or indiesand it never ticks over 1056 which I do think is kinda neat
I quite like the dynamic functions. Vega makes game profiles redundant since it regulates itself for lower intensity games, especially if you have a global FPS limit enabled.
 

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I quite like the dynamic functions. Vega makes game profiles redundant since it regulates itself for lower intensity games, especially if you have a global FPS limit enabled.
Yeah it’s jiust a complete change from my Fury. I use AIDA64 on my G19s LCD so it’s definitely interesting to watch it “dance” and it’s constantly dancing. I like how it runs lower on lower impact games.
 

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That's how it normally should look. I don't get why they pretend like there are base and boost clocks with these cards. When there really aren't. They have P-states and AVFS(Adaptive Frequency and Voltage Scaling). Which is not the same thing...at all. But whatever. It doesn't really matter what you call it. It still sucks just the same. And I hate it. With a passion. :mad:
For someone that hides their sys info...Then I'll make it simple and as straight forward as I can for you to figure out... Take a hike :wtf:

Vega will report clocks as is, but only if the conditions are Ideal... Gawd do you just troll to post, or do you have some useful info to SHARE and HELP? Im not fighting I'm just saying mkay :kookoo:

Yep after been using it for a while I flash it back to 56 and just use the powerplay table registry hack to use 64 table and it runs at 64 speed flawlessly. When checking firestrike scores it pretty much runs on par with 64 without any setbacks, with undervolt too!
That's awesome! Id be interested in seeing some benches for comparison though, just for my own curiosity :toast:
 
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For someone that hides their sys info...Then I'll make it simple and as straight forward as I can for you to figure out... Take a hike :wtf:

Vega will report clocks as is, but only if the conditions are Ideal... Gawd do you just troll to post, or do you have some useful info to SHARE and HELP? Im not fighting I'm just saying mkay :kookoo:
I only have one thing to say to that BS. If you've got such a huge problem with me, then left click my screen name and left click ignore. Nobody's forcing you to read my posts.
 
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I don't get why they pretend like there are base and boost clocks with these cards. When there really aren't. They have P-states and AVFS(Adaptive Frequency and Voltage Scaling). Which is not the same thing...at all. But whatever. It doesn't really matter what you call it. It still sucks just the same. And I hate it. With a passion. :mad:
Why? dynamic clocking beyond the set base/boost values (given low enough temperatures, power consumption and voltage) is a good thing. AMD is doing that in Ryzens, Nvidia has been doing that with Max Boost for couple generations now. What we as enthusiasts might not like about advanced frequency control mechanisms is that It does somewhat mitigate the need for overclocking :)

In Vega's case, AMD is just marketing it wrong. Mostly the boost frequency is set to a value that is commonly reached and chip has ability to boost beyond that. With vega, boost clock is normally unattainable.
 
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Very true, It's good to be able to let the application decide what to do, with the strix undervolted slightly, in 3D mark it averages out just under 1,600 Mhz on the core, when running Battlefield V Beta, it peaked at 1,690 Mhz and settled above 1,600 Mhz

Its probably not as satisfying as eeking out that extra few mhz "stable" but it is good that it can adapt to suit the situation.
 
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That's awesome! Id be interested in seeing some benches for comparison though, just for my own curiosity :toast:
I did some Firestrike benchies but I show you two major difference, the first one is bone stock Vega56 (clock is 1590MHz core and 800MHz HBM) and the other is Vega64 Powerplay table with 950mV 0% power target (clock is 1630MHz core and 950MHz HBM). Ignore Overall score, Physics score and combined, the first one is run with 6 threads and the second one is overclocked 3.7GHz 12 threads.

bone stock.JPG


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After a GTX1080 and an RTX 2080Ti spending spree, I'd decided it was about time I'd be able to wave the Red Team flag again, I have a Gigabyte RX VEGA 64 incoming.....should have it by tomorrow night.
 
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After a GTX1080 and an RTX 2080Ti spending spree, I'd decided it was about time I'd be able to wave the Red Team flag again, I have a Gigabyte RX VEGA 64 incoming.....should have it by tomorrow night.
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Hey comrades

See like I got a reference Sapphire VEGA 64. Picked this sexy beast up for $270 CAD




Now I am being told I can undervolt and overclock these things. Can anyone give me any idea how I can do that?
 
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Hey comrades

See like I got a reference Sapphire VEGA 64. Picked this sexy beast up for $270 CAD




Now I am being told I can undervolt and overclock these things. Can anyone give me any idea how I can do that?
So your mostly fighting against wattage used and temperature verses clock , undervolting mine i started at 1.1V Gpu core Volts and 1500 with stock memory clocks and worked up until it crashed at about 1550 , checked temps ,especially hotspot temp in hwinfo64 under heavy load and decided i could go higher so with a max of 1.16 volts ,stock memory clock, i can run it very stable at 1660.

you can overclock the memory a bit with little gains in fps tbh but large gains in heat output beyond 950 ,this heat output and the added wattage pulled (from the total allowed remember) limits the cores top clock holding stability in some scenarios unless that is you max the power slider , which again adds heat and reduces the time at top clock.

all in for games leave memory as is and the wattage and heat saved will allow you to run your core higher at a lower voltage(volts scale up marginally with heat) , start at 1.1 1500 and run a windowed 3d load then up it in 25Mhz steps , when it crashes add volts in .1 steps or drop clocks :)

I use Wattman and its saved profiles exclusively , no Oc software>
 
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So your mostly fighting against wattage used and temperature verses clock , undervolting mine i started at 1.1V Gpu core Volts and 1500 with stock memory clocks and worked up until it crashed at about 1550 , checked temps ,especially hotspot temp in hwinfo64 under heavy load and decided i could go higher so with a max of 1.16 volts ,stock memory clock, i can run it very stable at 1660.

you can overclock the memory a bit with little gains in fps tbh but large gains in heat output beyond 950 ,this heat output and the added wattage pulled (from the total allowed remember) limits the cores top clock holding stability in some scenarios unless that is you max the power slider , which again adds heat and reduces the time at top clock.

all in for games leave memory as is and the wattage and heat saved will allow you to run your core higher at a lower voltage(volts scale up marginally with heat) , start at 1.1 1500 and run a windowed 3d load then up it in 25Mhz steps , when it crashes add volts in .1 steps or drop clocks :)

How do I do that?
 
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Memory Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in two sticks./16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire refference Rx vega 64 EK waterblocked/Rtx 2060
Storage Samsung Nvme Pg981, silicon power 1Tb samsung 840 basic as a primocache drive for, WD2Tbgrn +3Tbgrn,
Display(s) Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync, LG 49" 4K 60hz ,Oculus
Case Lianli p0-11 dynamic
Audio Device(s) Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply corsair 1200Hxi
Mouse Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard Roccat Iksu force fx
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506
How do I do that?
yours is a refference , so using the AMD GPU drivers inbuilt overclocking software ,Wattman.
in the gaming section of radeon settings app, click on global settings then global wattman.

you have installed the full driver suite.
 
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Storage 1x500gb Crucial SSD
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Power Supply 650W EVGA BR - Coil Whine Issue
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were do i find it in here?

 

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System Name Hellbox 3.0(same case new guts)
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Cooling TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)AC Cuplex Kryos CPU Block/Noctua
Memory 2x8GB Corsair Vengance Pro 2400
Video Card(s) Sapphire 5700XT Nitro+
Storage WD Caviar Black SATA 3 1TB x2 RAID 0 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue
Display(s) Samsung CGH70 27” 1440 144hz Freesync 2 HDR
Case TT Kandalf L.C.S.
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic X-1050W 80+ Gold
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