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Verry big issue with my laptop only Pulling 12 Watts under load rather than its 17 Watts (it's odd)

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I have a Lenovo Indeapad S400u yes "u" and i have a problem with it my Laptop has a TDP of 17 Watts and when i play games and just casual stuff it never goes over 12 Watts on long Loads sometimes it just stays at 8 watts
It dose give me a power warning at 12 watts and it keeps blinking POWER
but my temps stay at max 65*
Iintel Core I3-3227U

In short i just have an issue with my oddly low Power draw

(sorry for bad grammar/english am Swiss)

Forgot to mention Windows 11

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i- wth is this
 

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uncheck clock mod
uncheck set multiplier
uncheck disable turbo
uncheck more data

post the TPL window
 

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The 3227U does not use Intel Turbo Boost. The maximum multiplier is 19. Your screenshot shows that your CPU is running at its maximum rated speed. What problem are you trying to solve? Power consumption is not important. Who cares about the Power warning. Do you want your CPU to consume more power? Why? It will not run any faster.

Most of your settings look screwed up now. I would delete the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file, reboot and start from scratch. There is no purpose in many of the random changes you made. Here is a good example.

The MSR power limits are locked by the BIOS to 17 and 21 and 28 seconds for the turbo time limit.
Requesting values different than that in the Power Limit Controls section does not accomplish anything if the MSR register is locked. You cannot request any changes to a locked register. Leave Disable Controls checked.

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Done

The 3227U does not use Intel Turbo Boost. The maximum multiplier is 19. Your screenshot shows that your CPU is running at its maximum rated speed. What problem are you trying to solve? Power consumption is not important. Who cares about the Power warning. Do you want your CPU to consume more power? Why? It will not run any faster.

Most of your settings look screwed up now. I would delete the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file, reboot and start from scratch. There is no purpose in many of the random changes you made. Here is a good example.

The MSR power limits are locked by the BIOS to 17 and 21 and 28 seconds for the turbo time limit.
Requesting values different than that in the Power Limit Controls section does not accomplish anything if the MSR register is locked. You cannot request any changes to a locked register. Leave Disable Controls checked.
ok i will delet the settings and the problem is that my cpu has a tdp of 17 watts but it never hits it at prolonged use only 12 or 10 wats rather than 17

What now i reset the Settings?

The 3227U does not use Intel Turbo Boost. The maximum multiplier is 19. Your screenshot shows that your CPU is running at its maximum rated speed. What problem are you trying to solve? Power consumption is not important. Who cares about the Power warning. Do you want your CPU to consume more power? Why? It will not run any faster.

Most of your settings look screwed up now. I would delete the ThrottleStop.INI configuration file, reboot and start from scratch. There is no purpose in many of the random changes you made. Here is a good example.

The MSR power limits are locked by the BIOS to 17 and 21 and 28 seconds for the turbo time limit.
Requesting values different than that in the Power Limit Controls section does not accomplish anything if the MSR register is locked. You cannot request any changes to a locked register. Leave Disable Controls checked.
the settigs are now good?
 

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unclewebb

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the problem is that my cpu has a tdp of 17 watts but it never hits it at prolonged use only 12 or 10 wats rather than 17
If your CPU is running at its full rated speed, why is less power consumption a problem? The TDP rating is a maximum value. It does not mean that your CPU should consume 17W when running something simple like the TS Bench test. Try running the Prime95 Small FFTs test. That might increase power consumption.

As long as ThrottleStop reports a 19.00 multiplier when stress testing, your CPU is running as fast as it possibly can.

If you had a car would you be trying to make your car consume more gasoline if doing this did not make your car go any faster? I hope not.
 
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If your CPU is running at its full rated speed, why is less power consumption a problem? The TDP rating is a maximum value. It does not mean that your CPU should consume 17W when running something simple like the TS Bench test. Try running the Prime95 Small FFTs test. That might increase power consumption.

As long as ThrottleStop reports a 19.00 multiplier when stress testing, your CPU is running as fast as it possibly can.

If you had a car would you be trying to make your car consume more gasoline if doing this did not make your car go any faster? I hope not.
i just made a full stress test Igpu and cpu (Fur mark & Prime 95) First the wattage was at 20 watts for 10 seconds then it dropped to 16 watts after that is went down to 12 watts max temperatur 68C just wierd af

now even at 10 watts power warning

Now my problem is that the wattage just drops down verry quick

now it just gives me POWER at only 10 watts

And now just 8 watts

Fur mark just jumps between 10 and 8 watts with jo cpu load
 

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Post a screenshot of ThrottleStop including the TPL window while you are stress testing. Post a screenshot when the power is high and post another screenshot when the power is low.

Is your CPU running at the 19 multiplier in both situations?

In the Options window there is a feature called Disable Chipset Throttle that should be available to you. Try checking that box.

When Power lights up red, most CPUs will reduce the amount of turbo boost they are using. You do not have to worry about that because your CPU does not use any Intel Turbo Boost.
 

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Disable Chipset Throttle only applies to older CPUs. It was a throttling method that was often times used on older Dell laptops. Perhaps your laptop uses this method.
 
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I just disabled chipset throttling and it didn't change anything

and i restarted my laptop after i chaned the settings
 

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Your CPU is running at full speed in that screenshot.

Try using GPU-Z. Maybe your Intel GPU is throttling.
 
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For some reason the gpu is not moving higher than 350 mhz (max boost is 1.1Ghz (I never have seen it hit it)
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The original windows version was windows 8 so its Other OS Legacy boot
 

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It seems to be an Intel GPU throttling problem, not a CPU throttling problem.

ThrottleStop has an undocumented INI file option. Edit the ThrottleStop.INI file and add this line.

IGPU=50

The first letter is the letter I. This can be used to increase the Intel GPU power limit. Maybe it will help.

Click on the GPU-Z Sensors tab which shows real time GPU MHz data including a graph.

Windows 11 does not officially support 3rd Gen CPUs. There could be some Intel GPU driver issues.
 

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Run something simple like the GPU-Z render test and watch the Sensors tab. Is the GPU still stuck at 350 MHz?

Press the ? button to the right of Bus Interface to find this test.
 

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Press the ? button to the right of Bus Interface to find this test.
 

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What speed does the Sensors tab show when the GPU-Z render test is running?

Try checking the MMIO Lock box.
 
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Ok I will try

So i did extensive testing and nothing changed the PKG power is still only 6.2 watts ang gpu wattage is still at 1.8 Watts

Even after Rebooting
 

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Post a screenshot of the Sensors tab while the GPU-Z render test is in progress.
 
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While being in a render test

the klock never changes

i have NEVER seen this laptop hitting PROCHOOT ever before

is it a viable option to up the voltage? somehow
 

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