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Video games influence sexist attitudes

Do you agree with the statement

  • YES

    Votes: 13 12.1%
  • NO

    Votes: 63 58.9%
  • Kids shouldnt have access to such games

    Votes: 31 29.0%

  • Total voters
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This explains why everything time I get a hooker I have the need to killer her and take my money back.
 

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More than 50 posts and no one has mentioned Anita Sarkeesian. Wow!

Can't help the reductionism in sandbox games, because that genre is by definition a reduction of reality ... if the game lets you kill thousands, they are trivializing human life ... if the game is showing some skin, they are trivializing sexuality ... because interactive nature of the medium lets player be part of the story, if the player is sociopath, the story gets colored that way too.
Simple reduction of NPC reaction spectrum and reduction of player's interaction options towards them, makes any exhaustion of interaction exercise in abuse ... and yes normal person can seem like a sociopath when playing GTA5, while real sociopaths find the real life much more appealing.

The reductionism I was referring to was considering games the sole cause to the effect that is whatever bad behaviour deemed so by society/politics/etc and disregarding that said behaviour is influenced by many, many factors working together, not that games themselves are reductions of reality.
 
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Not to mention Anita's content is total meaningless garbage that's totally inconsistent from video to video. And the fact she doesn't understand games at all. Not from gameplay perspective and neither from game dev perspective. I've ranted about it on my blog on several occasions. It's not "sexism", it's just business and demographics. And the fact that even women want to play with sexy female protagonists and not some generic fat slobs that barely resemble a woman. But Anita always likes to spin it as evil toxic masculinity that wants to objectify poor fragile women.
 
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Y'all made me change my vote to YES just now
 
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I'd think the title is wrong, and the games selected are wrong. Lara Croft is a strong woman, who can do stuff I can't even dream of. She fought dinosaurs, mummies, has a huge mansion. Hell I'd love to be such a woman, and I'm a man.
As far as GTA is concerned, that game should not be allowed to people younger than 16 or even 18. They should have no access whatsoever. It's a game portraying criminals as heroes, but it's mostly about fantasy stuff. Nothing real. When I was younger I played Vice City and loved it, but I liked the story, it's like living in a movie, specifically Scarface, without dying in the end, but surviving and becoming the city's biggest badass. But it's just a story. It's like reading a book. Just because people are reading a book about a serial killer, that does not mean that they will go out and kill someone.

GAMES ARE A WORK OF ART, JUST LIKE BOOKS OR PAINTINGS.
'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'
 
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More than 50 posts and no one has mentioned Anita Sarkeesian. Wow!

She admitted to not playing games multiple times, why should anyone bring up that scam artist.
 
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I'd think the title is wrong, and the games selected are wrong. Lara Croft is a strong woman, who can do stuff I can't even dream of. She fought dinosaurs, mummies, has a huge mansion. Hell I'd love to be such a woman, and I'm a man.
As far as GTA is concerned, that game should not be allowed to people younger than 16 or even 18. They should have no access whatsoever. It's a game portraying criminals as heroes, but it's mostly about fantasy stuff. Nothing real. When I was younger I played Vice City and loved it, but I liked the story, it's like living in a movie, specifically Scarface, without dying in the end, but surviving and becoming the city's biggest badass. But it's just a story. It's like reading a book. Just because people are reading a book about a serial killer, that does not mean that they will go out and kill someone.

GAMES ARE A WORK OF ART, JUST LIKE BOOKS OR PAINTINGS.
'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'

Yeah, well, your logic doesn't work with modern feminists. They don't care if Lara Croft is a strong woman with literally best acrobatic skills, they'll bitch and whine all day long how she's hypersexualized and there solely to satisfy male gaze for wearing tight dive suit. In the middle of Pacific... It's beyond crazy how these people operate.
 
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I think it is up to the parents to decide what their kids can do, see, listen to when it comes to more mature content. My parents were very lenient with me growing up. The only thing I wasn't allowed to see were boobs so my Mom would cover my eyes and I'd peek through her fingers.

My point is I grew up just fine. My parents always taught me right from wrong. I always understood reality from fantasy. I have a good heart and enjoy helping others. But when I play GTA:V I like to go on a mass murder spree. Understanding the difference between reality and fantasy allows me to do this without any sort of negative effect.

Me and the Wife differ a bit on what our kids can do see and listen to. She's a little more strict than I am. Like the kids aren't allowed to watch the walking dead or anything rated R and no content that is inappropriate, but I let them watch and in my daughters case play certain games that would be considered Mature. If said game has nudity then they don't see it but the occasional bad word or loads of killing...doesn't bother me so much. Here is a list of the PC games my daughter plays with or without me so violence to an extent is fine by me. It's a game and my daughter understands that. Actually the games that have a lot of shooting, fighting etc, she will only play with me because she likes me to do most of the killing, she partakes a little but most of the time she enjoys gathering, crafting and building.

Her current Steam games and time played. This is over a period of 3 years. and yes we make her go outside and play. lol She's very active outside of gaming.

Minecraft (hundreds of hours)
Ark (58 hours)
Portal Knights (203 hours)
Rising World (8.8 hours)
Costume Quest (58 hours)
Pony World 3 (8.2 hours)
Lego Worlds (0.2 hours)

Now she's watched me play lots of games with some pretty violent moments and she has even watched me play GTA V. Though I filter what I do when she is watching. No hookers and shit you know.

I actually find it funny when my daughter just watches. She's like, Dad don't kill the horse! Dad no don't hurt that chicken! He's so cute! Daaaad don't shoot the bear...he's not bothering you! But she sees a Zombie and she's like DAAAD over there get it quick!!!

My son on the other hand is fist bumping the sky every time I kill a monster. He's like yelling YEAH!! fist bump in the air, spinning in a circle acting a fool. Funny stuff.
 
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But I can't see anything to suggest she isn't a feminist.
Apparently you didn't notice the part where she says
"you cunts"
while she's spraying them full of lead from the chopper. LOL

Feminists definitely don't talk like that. Well, at least they're hypocrites if they do. Now granted, I'm sure a lot of women act like feminists on YouTube just to make money over the controversy they generate, but I don't count them as true feminists.
 
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She admitted to not playing games multiple times, why should anyone bring up that scam artist.

For the responses mentioning her has caused. She's an easy target when going against "feminist" complaints of video games. Heck, I don't know if there is any other known face you can put on this... "controversy."


Not to mention Anita's content is total meaningless garbage that's totally inconsistent from video to video. And the fact she doesn't understand games at all. Not from gameplay perspective and neither from game dev perspective. I've ranted about it on my blog on several occasions. It's not "sexism", it's just business and demographics. And the fact that even women want to play with sexy female protagonists and not some generic fat slobs that barely resemble a woman. But Anita always likes to spin it as evil toxic masculinity that wants to objectify poor fragile women.


8 posts just about her? Lol! She must've really got on your nerves! :laugh:
 
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Feminists definitely don't talk like that. Well, at least they're hypocrites if they do. Now granted, I'm sure a lot of women act like feminists on YouTube just to make money over the controversy they generate, but I don't count them as true feminists.

Ah the "no true scotsman" argument :D.

Seriously though thanks for posting the clip, it made me chortle :).
 
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I'm a women, and I always love those threads. Specially when the opinion comes in 99.5% cases from guys. :))))))
People should calm the f**k down. No game that I know is sexist, or better said, I consider sexist. On the contrary. However I have a word of two for rapidly increasing gay characters/romances, which I'm not a very big fan of it. TV Shows also. Is ridiculous what's going on. Every TV show nowadays are promoting gay relations.... Anyways, that's not the topic for here.
Also somebody was talking about porn being sexist. Again, not true. At least not all. What a girl/women does with her holes is her job if she wants to be perverted by 10 guys at once, probably this is just to satisfy the urge of some guys who are watching and paying for this...

The best example of sexism was from a couple of weeks on news with an EU politician ranting against women job payments and all that crap...
 
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Well if you don't teach your kids to differantiate you suck as parents and just look at some fairy tales (Grimm) - many PC games are pretty tame compared to them.
 
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Well if you don't teach your kids to differantiate you suck as parents and just look at some fairy tales (Grimm) - many PC games are pretty tame compared to them.
That's why PEGI/ESRB ratings? ;)
 

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OMG pointing there finger at GTA again, what about those really sad anime games on Steam.
 
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Concerning GTA, I went and picked up the game only a few months ago after seeing video of SP Mods that had heroic content.
I always admired the game's graphics but hated the glorification of crime and the human garbage sub-culture, but there are lots of ways to play with moral integrity using player created modded gameplay.
 
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Sexist?Games make players think low of women? Try playing Civ in the hardest mode against Wu Zetian and Catherine/Yekaterina. So strong and cunning. They are the reason I have trust issues with women.

(For the one who sees it differently, this is hyperbolism)
 
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Concerning GTA, I went and picked up the game only a few months ago after seeing video of SP Mods that had heroic content.
I always admired the game's graphics but hated the glorification of crime and the human garbage sub-culture, but there are lots of ways to play with moral integrity using player created modded gameplay.

You do realize entire GTA series is a crime parody? It's meant to be stupid, ugly and crazy. Saying GTA is glorifying violence is like saying Naked Gun movie glorifies violence... But again, like always, feminists briefly look at it through a feminist lens and declare it misogynist and harmful to women and men because misogyny and violence blablabla.

Anyone remembers how Buzzfeed or some shitty outlet gave random normies GTA5 and they were all like "Oh yeah, lets get some hookers and kill them later". The reality is, what 99% of people first do in GTA games is steal a nice car and ride around to get to know the new city first. And find some more better wheels. And explore some more. And then play some missions. And then do some shit just for the lolz to get 5 stars with da police. Finding hookers is like the 15th thing on the to do list...
 
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Probably the saddest part is that these people get paid to do this.

You go through college or uni and end up doing this for a living. Sad stuff.

I find it sadder we're all razzing this but no one has bothered to debunk it yet.

Let me do it for you. They surveyed teenagers about a sexual topic (how women should dress). OF COURSE THEY SAID "MINIMALLY!" Teenagers are hormone city, in case these researchers forgot, GTA or no.

It lacks a control group, from what I can see as well. Who the hell funded this?

Don't attack college classes. I went to college, and actually took a gender studies class. Stuff like this wouldn't pass a decent one.

Sexist?Games make players think low of women? Try playing Civ in the hardest mode against Wu Zetian and Catherine/Yekaterina. So strong and cunning. They are the reason I have trust issues with women.

Women are the reason I have trust issues with women.

We should ban them before I develop a bad judgement about them. (Yes, I am completely kidding as well).
 
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