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Knoxx29, not everyone uses the same programs you do.
 
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Knoxx29, not everyone uses the same programs you do.
Touche, or me for that matter. I might have it disabled but I also run hardly any older applications.
 
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#30
at some point, you might encounter instability. Some apps was still looking for pagefile. I experienced before instability with any browsers, (that was few months ago and some apps) after I disable. Initially, you wouldnt but somewhere down the road, you might encounter. If you dont encounter though then thats good. If you will encounter, then you can decide after that.

Oh one more thing I found out, old DX9 games, like COD, I experience instability and lagging when I disabled pagefile. Eventhough I have 16gb, even with 32GB ram. Also, not only some games, also some apps.

But that was just my experience and I am not trying to pursuade you for not disabling it.
You are right about all what you said and I agree with it, for you didn't work maybe for me it will work, it's all about luck, till I don't encounter any issue I will leave it disable, and as you said if somewhere down road I encounter any issue than I will enable it once again...

Thanks for your advices
 
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#31
What application or service do you start that makes the page file get created, because afaict, that doesn't happen on my machine at all.

That almost looks like disabling it without restarting. ;)
View attachment 55946
I had several virtual machines running earlier in the day.
 

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I had several virtual machines running earlier in the day.
I've had 10GB worth of VMs open before and haven't seen that happen. In instances when I had a Phenom II and 8GB of ram, applications would die if I can out of memory without the page file. So pardon me if I'm still kind of confused why that happens for you and not me. Not that it really matters, it's just a little peculiar from my perspective.
 
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I disabled mine because I had an SSD, but BF4 crashed when using 7950 crossfire (not a single 7950). I re-enabled it and it was ok. I've not tried it again since getting a single R9-290. But at that time, BF4 crashed if you so much as looked at it!
 
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#34
about the windows generated PF, a specific memory of mine is that it was in c:\windows\ not the root & it was also exactly 25mb, i believe this particular one was win2k around 2007

for mechanical drives, dont mess around with all this disabling & enabling unless you have an empty partition to enable it on first thing so it doesnt get fragmented

for SSDs, keep the size small so you dont reduce the life (maybe this wont make a difference whether it writes to a 1gb or 10gb allocation if it's only writing 500mb)

since we're talking ONLY SSD, i guess disable until you have problems...

I disabled mine because I had an SSD, but BF4 crashed when using 7950 crossfire (not a single 7950). I re-enabled it and it was ok. I've not tried it again since getting a single R9-290. But at that time, BF4 crashed if you so much as looked at it!
in bf3 beta i noticed something, CF on = higher PF allocation & more ram usage to the point of me running out... coincidentally i had bf3+PF+fraps video recording all on the same physical WD1002FAEX drive, the framerate was a complete disaster when i was on the conquest map :rolleyes:
 
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#35
I think a lot of the issue with older application was because
about the windows generated PF, a specific memory of mine is that it was in c:\windows\ not the root & it was also exactly 25mb, i believe this particular one was win2k around 2007

for mechanical drives, dont mess around with all this disabling & enabling unless you have an empty partition to enable it on first thing so it doesnt get fragmented

for SSDs, keep the size small so you dont reduce the life (maybe this wont make a difference whether it writes to a 1gb or 10gb allocation if it's only writing 500mb)

since we're talking ONLY SSD, i guess disable until you have problems...



in bf3 beta i noticed something, CF on = higher PF allocation & more ram usage to the point of me running out... coincidentally i had bf3+PF+fraps video recording all on the same physical WD1002FAEX drive, the framerate was a complete disaster when i was on the conquest map :rolleyes:
I don't have an SSD, I've never had an SSD. I played the BF3 beta and had no issue with PF disabled. I also run CF.
 
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#36
I think a lot of the issue with older application was because


I don't have an SSD, I've never had an SSD. I played the BF3 beta and had no issue with PF disabled. I also run CF.
Compliment, still someone out there faithful to the HDD:respect:
 

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I've actually run accross more advice than not to set 1024MB on the SSD (which in modern SSD'd is not gonna hurt the lifespan of it), because if a dump file needs to be created, that is where Windows will want to create it.
 
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I've actually run accross more advice than not to set 1024MB on the SSD (which in modern SSD'd is not gonna hurt the lifespan of it), because if a dump file needs to be created, that is where Windows will want to create it.
So that's mean to leave it in default mode
 

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#41
With that much memory you can tweak the system to run even faster, and be more responsive.

Perhaps one day I will do a write up on tweaking windows registry and system settings to maximize performance. But today is no that day.


First, leave your page file enabled, windows will use it to hold temporarily used files and programs when you load games and other large resources. Leave it on the SSD, set it to the size of your RAM, it acts as a protection as well for incomplete writes and changes, so if the power fails it can read it and correct issues, fault logs are written there for diagnostic purposes.

Second, disable kernel paging only if you don't actually plan on listening to reasonable advice by leaving a page file.

Third, leave your page file, as previously mentioned, some programs require it, and will CTD or have other issues when its not there, its used to prebuffer levels and get the file/textures/etc all laid out and in order.

Fourth, use http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx and feel free to delete unneeded startup items, unneeded drivers that windows loads, and unessential bloatware.

Fifth, only use one anti-virus or anti-malware, its OK to have others downloaded but not installed, some paranoid people think if one is good more is better, its not and can cause interference with the actual security of the PC, and performance and stability.

Sixth, clean up, Crap Cleaner does a good job.

There are some performance tunings you can do, but windows does a good enough job when you have good stable drivers installed and no other issues. Short of creating a "Gaming" hardware profile there isn't a lot to do.
 

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Just leave it on system managed.
 

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Just leave it on system managed if you want it to just work.
I made added an addendum to your post. I hope I'm not being overly presumptuous.
 

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I set mine to a static 4GB since forever. like when 512mb of ram was insane.
 
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Going on with an old thread,
I have a curiosity,
I had the page file set - minimal 400 and maximal to 4GB, i have a SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB and today I noticed something, when I set the SSD to maximum performance does automatically set the page file to 32GB, it's that normal
 
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#46
samsung magician does that. You have to keep an eye on it.
 
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#48
Your using Samsung software right? Well it changes your settings for you when you ask it too.
 
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#49
Your using Samsung software right? Well it changes your settings for you when you ask it too.
Yes that is right,
Should I trust it, or should i set it to manual, is there any advantages of having it enable or disabled it?
 
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#50
You can trust it. Somewhat. Keep in mind when you choose "performance" its set to be as fast as it can with no regard for long life. So your drive will wear out faster. Page files are hard on SSD. I';m not saying to not use one ether just you don't need 32Gb.

SSDs are fast just don't use the performance option

But do use the OP settings