i thought this might help some of you who are having problems with various issues with vista. i found a site that has a COMPLETE list of ALL the updates that have been released for all 32 and 64bit versions of vista. there are links to download and install each update/patch. NOTE: a lot of the updates found on this site are not included in automatic updates or vista's integrated update panel. http://aaron-kelley.net/downloads/hotfix/ i have found SEVERAL updates on the list that have solved problems that i was having. i hope someone else finds this site useful. if it helps you.... it would be nice if i got a thanks.