WCG: a change

Chicken Patty · Nov 16, 2009

Look at the Base Campers, they go to different teams helping out and give them a boost. I also don't really see nothing wrong with that. Of course, everything has it's margin between good and bad.

Velvet Wafer · Nov 16, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Look at the Base Campers, they go to different teams helping out and give them a boost. I also don't really see nothing wrong with that. Of course, everything has it's margin between good and bad.

Word.

vaiopup · Nov 16, 2009

Sheesh, it's only a message board........a little drama here and there just adds to the fun.
After all we are all real people with real lives.
Put a group of people together anywhere in the world and you will encounter the odd disagreement~it's called real life.

As to the "teams" thing......yes and no.

Teams encourage competition.....competition encourages hardware purchases and, even better, recruiting new people to a project.

In the end we are all one big team, all results go to the same pot but I honestly believe that were it not for competition big players such as XS wouldn't be quite the team they are.

The whole thing is competition driven for many people, like it or not.

We spend our hard earned green on this stuff so why deny us a lil bit of fun???

So, you are folding anonymously well guess what.....you are now a member of team "anonymous" the biggest team at Stanford last I looked :laugh:

Speaking for myself....I know I am a drama, a pain in the arse, but I also believe passionately in what we are trying to achieve.

If folk don't like what I have to say, who cares.

But over the years I have had enough folk follow and help me build teams so I know I do something right.

Ends pointless ramble

vaiopup · Nov 16, 2009

oh and

@Fits........I will swing by your team a while when I have completed my committments s.p. elsewhere

erocker · Nov 16, 2009

Well gentlemen, have fun feeling great about yourselves and all the wonderful work you are doing. Be sure to give yourselves a big pat on the back for me. Later.

hat · Nov 16, 2009

erocker said:
Well gentlemen, have fun feeling great about yourselves and all the wonderful work you are doing. Be sure to give yourselves a big pat on the back for me. Later.

Erm... excuse me but wtf has been going on the past few days?

vaiopup · Nov 16, 2009

Why should they not feel good about themselves?
I work 60 hours a week with Alzheimers cancer and Parkinsons patients....oh and throw in the odd schizophrenic.

A bit of levity now and then doesn't hurt.
Don't see why folk should feel guilty for having fun.....sheesh :rolleyes:

vaiopup · Nov 16, 2009

If you wanna criticise a team visit Easynews.
I think it's their lot that gets paid for crunching......they get paid in bandwidth.

Now that is just plain wrong but hey ho.

Chicken Patty · Nov 16, 2009

alright Guys. Ithink we all said what we had to say, maybe erocker has his reasons to say what he does. Lotta things happen that not everybody sees. Private messages, emails, MSN etc. We all pitched in our opinions. Let's get this thread back on topic which was discussing the change in team captaincy. Thank you.

vaiopup · Nov 16, 2009

Aye aye cap'n

El Fiendo · Nov 17, 2009

erocker said:
Well, I disagree. You fold/crunch or you don't. All the data goes towards a good cause regardless if you are competing against someone or not. Either way, the drama involved here makes me sick. And the fact that anyone may have some sort of hard feelings in any way in regards to crunching/folding makes me even sicker. It's obviously some popularity contest regardless of what anyone wants to say to make it otherwise. Happy crunching!

The benefit of teams is that they can create a healthy competition between teams that push both to perform better. The larger a team gets, the more chance for someone who wouldn't normally have started folding to join up. After all, people love being a part of something grand (size wise as well as social contributions in this case). This in turn creates more output towards the common goal of F@H or WCG.

For instance, the Folding Team has been in battle with Hardware Canucks for several months now, with the past couple being the most 'intense'. And while there is pseudo mud slinging back and forth, I'd gladly sit down with the HWC team for many a round at the bar.

Having said that, I agree the drama has left a poor taste and that the worst of distributed computing comes out if its treated solely as a popularity contest. I don't think the bulk of members treat it as such, though the growth of project relies pretty heavily on it. I don't think distributed computing would grow very much without it.

Sorry CP, but I feel some of the results of the events are as important to discuss as the change itself as the two go hand in hand. I also felt the need to throw in on E's post. Obviously it can be deleted if its too frictiony.

vaiopup · Nov 17, 2009

When and where was this "drama"?
Was it a "behind the scenes" thing?

Chicken Patty · Nov 17, 2009

El Fiendo said:
The benefit of teams is that they can create a healthy competition between teams that push both to perform better. The larger a team gets, the more chance for someone who wouldn't normally have started folding to join up. After all, people love being a part of something grand (size wise as well as social contributions in this case). This in turn creates more output towards the common goal of F@H or WCG.

For instance, the Folding Team has been in battle with Hardware Canucks for several months now, with the past couple being the most 'intense'. And while there is pseudo mud slinging back and forth, I'd gladly sit down with the HWC team for many a round at the bar.

Having said that, I agree the drama has left a poor taste and that the worst of distributed computing comes out if its treated solely as a popularity contest. I don't think the bulk of members treat it as such, though the growth of project relies pretty heavily on it. I don't think distributed computing would grow very much without it.

Sorry CP, but I feel the results of the events are as important to discuss as the change itself. And I also felt the need to throw in on E's post. Obviously it can be deleted if its too frictiony.

as long as we keep it to a certain level, the way it was headed before was not looking good.

vaiopup · Nov 17, 2009

Whatever anyone's motivation their choice of what to do, and where, should be respected.
Either way the work is being done and that is the important thing after all :toast:

Kreij · Nov 17, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Let's get this thread back on topic which was discussing the change in team captaincy. Thank you.

ARghh ... shiver me timbers ... can we mutiny?

Okay, call me stupid if you want, but what exactly does the team captain do?

PaulieG · Nov 17, 2009

There are all kinds of opinions floating around. This is good. For me, I crunch for the cause 100%. I like when it's competitive. I'm a competitive person, so it makes me crunch harder, and it makes things fun. Competitive does not need to be perceived as a negative thing. Friendly competition is a good thing. Many studies back this up. It adds character, and pushes people to do their best. What could be wrong with that? Competition is only a bad thing when people distort the meaning of it.

I deleted fits post trying to recruit members. I did this only out of team unity. I think it's bad practice to pilfer other teams. Everyone is aware that fits has created a team at EVGA, and anyone who chooses can join his team. It just shouldn't be posted in the TPU WCG sub-forum.

I certainly do wish fits well, and I hope his team is successful, since it's all for the common good.

Chicken Patty · Nov 17, 2009

Paulieg said:
There are all kinds of opinions floating around. This is good. For me, I crunch for the cause 100%. I like when it's competitive. I'm a competitive person, so it makes me crunch harder, and it makes things fun. Competitive does not need to be perceived as a negative thing. Friendly competition is a good thing. Many studies back this up. It adds character, and pushes people to do their best. What could be wrong with that?

I deleted fits post trying to recruit members. I did this only out of team unity. I think it's bad practice to pilfer other teams. Everyone is aware that fits has created a team at EVGA, and anyone who chooses can join his team. It just shouldn't be posted in the TPU WCG sub-forum.

well said!

Chicken Patty · Nov 17, 2009

Kreij said:
ARghh ... shiver me timbers ... can we mutiny?

Okay, call me stupid if you want, but what exactly does the team captain do?

I'm not even sure what my job description looks like. But im'ma continue giving to the community like I always have. helping, and contributing. Of course, I'll have to take that a little further now, but doing what i do whether team captain or not makes me feel good, so Imma continue to do it :rockout:

vaiopup · Nov 17, 2009

Paulieg said:
There are all kinds of opinions floating around. This is good. For me, I crunch for the cause 100%. I like when it's competitive. I'm a competitive person, so it makes me crunch harder, and it makes things fun. Competitive does not need to be perceived as a negative thing. Friendly competition is a good thing. Many studies back this up. It adds character, and pushes people to do their best. What could be wrong with that? Competition is only a bad thing when people distort the meaning of it.

I deleted fits post trying to recruit members. I did this only out of team unity. I think it's bad practice to pilfer other teams. Everyone is aware that fits has created a team at EVGA, and anyone who chooses can join his team. It just shouldn't be posted in the TPU WCG sub-forum.

I certainly do wish fits well, and I hope his team is successful, since it's all for the common good.

Good post.

I think a fair compromise would be to permit Fitseries to have a link to his team in his sig, but not to actively promote within the forum.

Much as I do.....I have my sig but I do not attempt to recruit

vaiopup · Nov 17, 2009

Kreij said:
Okay, call me stupid if you want, but what exactly does the team captain do?

I n a word he is your "cheerleader"

The real work for a team captain is when a team runs multiple projects.
Gets hard work after the first 30

Chicken Patty · Nov 17, 2009

vaiopup said:
I n a word he is your "cheerleader"

The real work for a team captain is when a team runs multiple projects.
Gets hard work after the first 30

in my case I got called a cheerleader with hairy legs :laugh:

vaiopup · Nov 17, 2009

Get ya a Ladyshave for Christmas :laugh:

stanhemi · Nov 17, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
in my case I got called a cheerleader with hairy legs

BUCK NASTY · Nov 17, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
I'm not even sure what my job description looks like. But im'ma continue giving to the community like I always have. helping, and contributing. Of course, I'll have to take that a little further now, but doing what i do whether team captain or not makes me feel good, so Imma continue to do it

Now you must keep up you personal hygiene so it will not be a bad reflection on TPU(i.e....shave those legs

). CP, just keep on doing what you have always done. Your enthusiasm is such a valuable resource to the team. Congrats Captain!!!

PS. now accepting donations for the "CP wax job fund"

Kreij · Nov 17, 2009

Well I don't know about anyone else, but how can a team be taken seriously with a captain called ChickenPatty?

I mean, shouldn't the captain have a name like "CrunchWarrior" or "WU_Slayer" ?

For cying out loud, ChickenPatty? !!?!?!?!? Who's the next captain, VeggieBurger? TofuMan? Mr.Sprouts? :shadedshu

lol ... I know you'll do a great job, CP, but I felt the need too give you a little ribbing. :toast:

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