Discussion in 'World Community Grid (WCG)' started by loonym, Apr 29, 2009.
My #'s were low today for some reason, but at least both rigs are reporting, unlike before.
GUYS - I need help - I'll keep it short as I can - I have been on the project now for a few years - Originally I was running Win XP32 - and my numbers where great - since upgrading the same machine to Win7 64 my numbers have been terrible - almost half what the exact same machine used to get on WinXP 32 - but that's life I needed Win7 64 so that s just tough luck - I tried for months to ask for help or figure the problem but it all came to nothing and eventually I gave up.
Just recently due to a change in operational behavior - my crunching PC that was normally online 24/7 started spending a day or 2 at a time offline, from time to time - so to get things moving again when I reconnected it - I would go to the BOINC client - to the projects tab - and manually hi the UPDATE button to get things all synced up.
Then I noticed something crazy...
MY AVERAGE RESULTS NEARLY DOUBLED OVER A SPACE OF A MONTH. Pretty much getting back to what they used to be on WinXP 32.
So I looked at logs and all sorts of crap and released that the client was going DAYS sometimes even WEEKS before ever updating - at times it would finish ALL JOBS and just sit there till the report back date expired and not even hand the jobs back in - and once they expired just ask for more, but not all the time.
The machine runs 24/7 and is online 24/7 and my report back graph looks like an earthquake reading of crazy peaks and troughs since Win7 - but if you go back a few years to when I was running WinXP my weekly averages where almost exactly the same every week as they SHOULD be since week to week the client was running on the same machine under the same conditions, as it is still to this very day, but now the DUMB ASS THING just never bothers to report back - or update the project half the time leaving some to expire completely ((
I have been running at half output for almost 3 years now since changing to Win7 for NO REASON AT ALL - other than the damn client never bothers to update half the time.
AND I have now proven that if I just press update button every morning - my output LITERALLY doubles - because it actually hands the work in.
And its not as though CANT access the net because pressing update NEVER FAILS - and it WAS handing in at least half its work the whole time - so it COULD see the net - it just wouldn't hand the rest in .. just because.
Man this pisses me off - anyone have any idea how to make this stupid client UPDATE at least once a day automatically??? I have tried to fiddle the settings as much as I can and I cant find any way to FORCE PROJECT UPDATING every X interval.
On this graph it starts at what my average was - and around AUG27 the net disruptions came so i started manually hitting Project Update every day - until around AUG 30 - then the net was 24/7 again so I stopped manually updating, and I noticed there had been a spike in output that then fell off when I stopped Manually Updating every day. So I started manually updating every day again and my average LITERALLY doubled and has been holding double output ever since.
What is your profile for the system set to here?
Also, making, or editing, cc_config.xml in Boinc's data folder adding this (Default location is C:\ProgramData\Boinc\):
Will make it report as soon as a WU finishes, possibly also fetching new ones if relevant.
Well that screenshot you posted, I cannot find that anywhere in any of my clients settings / properties menues - what menu is it under? (WCG client - v7.0.28 X64)
Just as a note now looking for that screen you posted I see there are another 3 tasks that have completed and are just sitting there "ready to report" and just not bloody REPORTING! GRRRrrrr XD
So I will add/create that config file and we will see how that works - Assuming it does - thanks a lot!
This is the closest similar menu I can find :
EDIT : As a note that file did not exist - so I created it , restarted the service, and we will see what happens.
Set all of the values in the first 2 rows of that page to zero- that should fix your issue.
Also, set Network activity to "always available" on the Activity tab on your BOINC Manager.
*Note- the page agent00skid showed is from the WCG website- the settings I'm referring to are are in software on your PC (will override the website settings most of the time)
I strongly encourage doing this ever if the system isn't having issues...having all WUs turned in right away helps even out the daily ups-and-downs.
Once you create the cc_config.xml, you have to go into BOINC Manager and select Advanced->Read Config File
BOINC won't auto-report unless you have the cc_config file. It's supposed to report results occasionally (I don't remember how frequently) or whenever you communicate with the servers to pull down more work, but apparently this doesn't always work (based on your experience).
Guys, thank you all and especially agent00skid. This thing really works.
I had constant issues with daily ups-and-downs. 3 of my crunchers are far from me and have network issues, report from time to time, and could even hang on waiting.
Now I can fix it.
The WCG website config was a bit far fetched, but couldn't find anything client side that resembled it, so thought it could be relevant. But like Norton said, most of the settings can be overwrote client side.
You find it here if interested:
And then the profile for the machine(s).
Up a bit more from yesterday!
Great job Team!
12.68 days until we pass neu-innova for 23rd place in the WCG world rankings!
It's coming right up, great job guys!
Those GPU WUs gave us a very nice boost today!
The typical weekend dip, but we're still doing a rockin' job!
Winters coming. Numbers will go up.
I'm looking forward to winter and if my bad luck streak ends, I will have a 3rd cruncher just in time for the winter
BTW part of my bad luck streak was my DSM spitting a road madshot, PM me for more details.
Computers serve as very effective heaters, and do something else useful as well
Yep, I hate the heat in the summer but in the winter it's awesome. ...and with a S1366 i7, the heat is just awesome.
Yeah, I'm not to thrilled about how much heat the i7-920 is going to dump off :shadedshu
It will probably be like adding another GTX470
What's your 3rd rig going to be?
Up a bit from yesterday!
Great job Team!
9.83 days until we pass neu-innova for 23rd place in the WCG world rankings!
I'll be bringing in the wu's from FX-6100 tomorrow am for 70,000+ WCG points (hopefully)
FX8120 or FX8150. Just keep having nothing but setbacks though.
That's a very powerful CPU to build around
Yep, should've had it running by now but luck hasn't been on my side lately.
What parts do you still need? Perhaps I can help you out a bit
The CPU, and PSU. Got board/case/RAM (thanks to norton)/ HDD. And I probably have a cooler for it as well.
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