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Hi guys,
i Need advise from some overclocker expert.

I put all pieces together
Motherboard, CPU, GPU, RAM and the rest, than I installed windows an so on but weird is
Than my clock speed were 1.6
I went into the bios but I didn't find anything that could help me, so I overclock to 4.7 and the
Clock speed were stable to 4.7, but after a few seconds than clock speed once again to 1.6,
Just when I run prime95 or some CPU stress test it goes to 4.7 but in idle always 1.6
Any help?
 
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This is not weird in any way. 1600MHz idle is normal for i7 3770K, it's called Speed Step. The CPU will not stay at the max turbo speed or over clock unless under load.
 
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This is not weird in any way. 1600MHz idle is normal for i7 3770K, it's called Speed Step. The CPU will not stay at the max turbo speed or over clock unless under load.
Which are the normal temperatures for a i7 3770k overclocked to 4.7
In idle and in full load
 

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This is not weird in any way. 1600MHz idle is normal for i7 3770K, it's called Speed Step. The CPU will not stay at the max turbo speed or over clock unless under load.
Yeah you can change a setting in the bios to run at 4.7 24/7 but there isn't really any difference as intel will clock up fast enough that you won't see a difference at all. Ideal temp you ask? 105c max but depends on what your using to cool. Water cooling or air? 70-80c at 4.7 but that's a guess as don't know what cpu volts your set at.
 
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Yeah you can change a setting in the bios to run at 4.7 24/7 but there isn't really any difference as intel will clock up fast enough that you won't see a difference at all. Ideal temp you ask? 105c max but depends on what your using to cool. Water cooling or air? 70-80c at 4.7 but that's a guess as don't know what cpu volts your set at.
My CPU volts are set to 1.35
CPU as I said overclocked to 4.7 :respect:

the overclock its stable and been honest this is my first overclock, i did run prime95 for one day and it doesnt failed or go some error
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By the looks of it you could reduce the voltage to 1.25 and still be stable, since you VID is 1.19/1.21. It seems you have a very good chip too, if you can do 4.7ghz and those volts and keep a proper Stepping function that gets you down to 1.6ghz frequently you should be very happy. My Asus RoG mobo seems quite broken in that matter, it rarely goes down by 400-500mhz when I'm in idle. I don't know how long you left the stress test running before u took the pic on the left with max load, but even if this was "just after starting the test" the temps are ok and your are still largely into the safe zone (consider 80c as "warning don't go higher"). Your idle temps are ridiculously low... wft is your PC in Ice Age or smthig? :D

All those rads are ofc total overkill but still... :D
 
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C1E, C2, C4, and EIST are all power saving functions that will drop your frequency and voltage down to 1.6ghz to save power. I recommend leaving them on, it will make your chip last longer because it won't be overclocked all the time, just when you need it to be. When the computer starts to encounter processing load the speed will go up to the 4.7ghz. It will cause instability so you won't be able to overclock as high but I'd say its worth it because your hardware will last longer. Are you overclocking with offset?
 
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My CPU volts are set to 1.35
CPU as I said overclocked to 4.7 :respect:

the overclock its stable and been honest this is my first overclock, i did run prime95 for one day and it doesnt failed or go some error
so maybe next step will try to overclock to 5.0
You might want to use iBT to check stability, Prime 95 won't get generally get your temps up to 80% of max in my experience.

Still, 67 C at load @ 4.7ghz is pretty nice. There is quite a difference between cores on the screenshots though.
 
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You are over-clocking, but you don't know what causes your CPU to downclock? Knoxx29, best advice I can give you is STOP. Do not OC your CPU anymore, infact, return it to stock speeds. Go read up more on over-clocking. Had you adequately prepared yourself to start OC'ing, you would have already known the answer to your question. After you actually take the time to properly learn how to OC, then OC your CPU and come back here with your results.
 
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put the windows power options to performance or disable all the eist speedstep shit in the bios.

that will stop it dropping to 1.6 idle.

personally i only do that for benchmarks or some games which do not play nice with the speedstep.

normal use 1.6ghz is plenty fast enough.
 
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You are over-clocking, but you don't know what causes your CPU to downclock? Knoxx29, best advice I can give you is STOP. Do not OC your CPU anymore, infact, return it to stock speeds. Go read up more on over-clocking. Had you adequately prepared yourself to start OC'ing, you would have already known the answer to your question. After you actually take the time to properly learn how to OC, then OC your CPU and come back here with your results.
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By the looks of it you could reduce the voltage to 1.25 and still be stable, since you VID is 1.19/1.21. It seems you have a very good chip too, if you can do 4.7ghz and those volts and keep a proper Stepping function that gets you down to 1.6ghz frequently you should be very happy. My Asus RoG mobo seems quite broken in that matter, it rarely goes down by 400-500mhz when I'm in idle. I don't know how long you left the stress test running before u took the pic on the left with max load, but even if this was "just after starting the test" the temps are ok and your are still largely into the safe zone (consider 80c as "warning don't go higher"). Your idle temps are ridiculously low... wft is your PC in Ice Age or smthig? :D

All those rads are ofc total overkill but still... :D
I took the pic after 24 hours of stress with prime95 running all day without stop.
 
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You are over-clocking, but you don't know what causes your CPU to downclock? Knoxx29, best advice I can give you is STOP. Do not OC your CPU anymore, infact, return it to stock speeds. Go read up more on over-clocking. Had you adequately prepared yourself to start OC'ing, you would have already known the answer to your question. After you actually take the time to properly learn how to OC, then OC your CPU and come back here with your results.
Thanks for your concern about my overclock, but let me tell you something I was reading over one year after I decide to do it, that's why Internet exist, because if you're confuse about something just google and you will find millions of answers to yours questions and that's why I learned a lot just asking around, if for every question people do because they don't understand something and they have to return the PC to the stock speeds than that's ridiculous
 

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You should learn to edit your posts instead of double and triple posting.
 
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Everything looks pretty normal. What is your actual concern?
 
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Nevermind, from what you have posted things look fine. Enjoy your computer. ;)
 
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Thanks for your concern about my overclock, but let me tell you something I was reading over one year after I decide to do it, that's why Internet exist, because if you're confuse about something just google and you will find millions of answers to yours questions and that's why I learned a lot just asking around, if for every question people do because they don't understand something and they have to return the PC to the stock speeds than that's ridiculous

What is ridiculous is adjusting settings on a >$300 CPU without fully understanding what you are doing. You say you read up on OC'ing for over a year, yet you don't know about how a CPU will downclock it's self when the extra clock speed is not needed? I don't believe you, but it's your money and your chip, fry it how you see fit.
 
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What is ridiculous is adjusting settings on a >$300 CPU without fully understanding what you are doing. You say you read up on OC'ing for over a year, yet you don't know about how a CPU will downclock it's self when the extra clock speed is not needed? I don't believe you, but it's your money and your chip, fry it how you see fit.
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Up to you what you believe or not, I don't meaning in a rude way but i earn enough money
that I can afford to fry a CPU everyday...

You we're once a novice, too.

Now, remember those who were generous in their praise and gentle in their criticism Who patiently answered your every question
 
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#21
Do you have comments that are longer than a stupid emoticon?
 
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#22
You are over-clocking, but you don't know what causes your CPU to downclock? Knoxx29, best advice I can give you is STOP. Do not OC your CPU anymore, infact, return it to stock speeds. Go read up more on over-clocking. Had you adequately prepared yourself to start OC'ing, you would have already known the answer to your question. After you actually take the time to properly learn how to OC, then OC your CPU and come back here with your results.
That is the first sensible than I read !!

Before fiddling on expensive componentens first familiarize yourself with the ins and outs of your:
motherboard, the layout what does what component and what does that mean in heating up?
The bios is the main place to be ;
* what are key value for changing for example the cpu speeds?
* what are the main values when increasing dram frequency?
* What are the values when lowering the memory timings

All of people buy a motherboard chuck in al stuff the found in the box, completely install things that came with mobo driver dvd -----> look before you leap:
I see dosens of guys that have installed all kind of wifi software or bluetooth and have enable everthing in the bios. If I than ask them what the do with th all look at me like completely confused ... ehhh well I dont use that ...
Lesson laerned: First walk through the optional settings in your bios.

Disabling things in BIOS: there are a lot of components that (depending on the motherboard) can be enabled or disabled. You should really take a look at that because turning everything to enabled means a much heaver load on your system and on the OS. For example: If you only 4 sata ports in use, disable all the others. If there are additional sata controllesr that you don't use: DISABLE them, Same goes for Bluetooth, Wifi: don't use it? Than see that function is disabled in your BIOS.

And having been a novice.... well I started this by reading all about it I could find. Why does the QPI/VCCSA/DRAM voltages need to be increased as long as I didn;t figure that out I stop benching an started reading again.

I advise you first get to know the basics at least.
The Intel way of doing thins is this:
YOUR cpu has a stock frequency of 3500
Intel uses EIST* (see below), so with the power states all enabled the system will scale de CPU spead up and down, depending on the demand
Your TurboMode is 3900MHz, if the CPU goes Beyond 3500MHZ the turbo boost is started.

For Benching = trying to get the highest scores possible => only in that case all power saving modes may be disabled and even the turbo can be disabled, that way the CPU runs at the set speed constantly (say 5000MHz for example).

Did you even find out about the save ranges for the voltages you have been playing with? You can find lists that tell you what is save on air cooled systems, water cooled system etc. The easiest way to find the approximate settings is by using the in the motherboard available CPU level UP function. Reboot the system go back in the bios the settings and find those that are set to: AUTO and take note of that shown voltages. Now you at least have an idea what yout mobo manufacturer has already doen for you (the tested 1000's motherboards with CPU's and generally the can find the clocks setings very well. Use those values as a guideline. BUT ALSO: if you find a stable OC --> its always good to see if there are any voltages than can be lowered to see if the would be stable than. A lot of time I find CPU's that are auto tuned, but where the voltages could easily be drop... LESS Volt = LESS heat.

Hope this does clarify things a bit.

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EIST, an Intel thermal and power management technology that allows the the processor performance and power consumption levels to be modified while a system is running. Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology works via application software, which changes the bus-to-core frequency ratio and the processor core voltage. The operating state is determined by things such as the system power source, the processor thermal state, and even the operating system policy. Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology is supported on current and future generations of Intel Processors.
 
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That is the first sensible than I read !!

Before fiddling on expensive componentens first familiarize yourself with the ins and outs of your:
motherboard, the layout what does what component and what does that mean in heating up?
The bios is the main place to be ;
* what are key value for changing for example the cpu speeds?
* what are the main values when increasing dram frequency?
* What are the values when lowering the memory timings

All of people buy a motherboard chuck in al stuff the found in the box, completely install things that came with mobo driver dvd -----> look before you leap:
I see dosens of guys that have installed all kind of wifi software or bluetooth and have enable everthing in the bios. If I than ask them what the do with th all look at me like completely confused ... ehhh well I dont use that ...
Lesson laerned: First walk through the optional settings in your bios.

Disabling things in BIOS: there are a lot of components that (depending on the motherboard) can be enabled or disabled. You should really take a look at that because turning everything to enabled means a much heaver load on your system and on the OS. For example: If you only 4 sata ports in use, disable all the others. If there are additional sata controllesr that you don't use: DISABLE them, Same goes for Bluetooth, Wifi: don't use it? Than see that function is disabled in your BIOS.

And having been a novice.... well I started this by reading all about it I could find. Why does the QPI/VCCSA/DRAM voltages need to be increased as long as I didn;t figure that out I stop benching an started reading again.

I advise you first get to know the basics at least.
The Intel way of doing thins is this:
YOUR cpu has a stock frequency of 3500
Intel uses EIST* (see below), so with the power states all enabled the system will scale de CPU spead up and down, depending on the demand
Your TurboMode is 3900MHz, if the CPU goes Beyond 3500MHZ the turbo boost is started.

For Benching = trying to get the highest scores possible => only in that case all power saving modes may be disabled and even the turbo can be disabled, that way the CPU runs at the set speed constantly (say 5000MHz for example).

Did you even find out about the save ranges for the voltages you have been playing with? You can find lists that tell you what is save on air cooled systems, water cooled system etc. The easiest way to find the approximate settings is by using the in the motherboard available CPU level UP function. Reboot the system go back in the bios the settings and find those that are set to: AUTO and take note of that shown voltages. Now you at least have an idea what yout mobo manufacturer has already doen for you (the tested 1000's motherboards with CPU's and generally the can find the clocks setings very well. Use those values as a guideline. BUT ALSO: if you find a stable OC --> its always good to see if there are any voltages than can be lowered to see if the would be stable than. A lot of time I find CPU's that are auto tuned, but where the voltages could easily be drop... LESS Volt = LESS heat.

Hope this does clarify things a bit.

http://hwbot.org/user/henkenator68nl/]http://hwbot.org/signature/u27292.png


If you have any questions, drop me a message.

EIST, an Intel thermal and power management technology that allows the the processor performance and power consumption levels to be modified while a system is running. Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology works via application software, which changes the bus-to-core frequency ratio and the processor core voltage. The operating state is determined by things such as the system power source, the processor thermal state, and even the operating system policy. Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology is supported on current and future generations of Intel Processors.
Thanks a lot man, that is a really helpfully answer, you gave me many
Answers in just one post, if I need some help for sure I will let you know...thanks once again
 
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your welcome !!
 
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#25
Only other piece of advice I can give is to read your motherboard's manual (I do with every new mobo) to find out what all the options actually do.

I think the reason you got so many negative posts is that you didn't do this in the first place. It's also outlined in the CPU manual too, I imagine.