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What are good B450 MOBO for Ryzen 5 3600?

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Thanks for the spreadsheet msthenholm.

I appreciate this thread...I'm also in the market for a B450 motherboard. I've got an extra Ryzen 3 2200g that I want to put to good use. Currently trying to find a board for it...or use my current board and get a new board for my Ryzen 5 2600(Can't decide).

I've had good luck with my current Asrock motherboard. Dare I say...it's perfect. Gigabyte? I didn't have good luck with Gigabyte. I tried one of their mini-itx boards and returned it. Loud chipset whine. As far as MSI goes, I'm not familiar with the current MSI boards. Although...that is precisely what I've been looking at.

This board in particular.

MSI B450 Gaming PRO Carbon AC

It's a little more than I'd like to spend though...especially with a chip that costs 1/2 the price of the board.

At that premum of a price...I think ShrimpBrime is correct. Better start looking at Asus. At least that's what I'm going to be doing tonight.

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Liquid Cool

EDIT: I've decided to go with this board...

ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming Motherboard

I'm going to put my Ryzen 5 2600 in this new Asus motherboard...and the Ryzen 3 2200g in the old Asrock.
 
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Thanks for the spreadsheet msthenholm.

I appreciate this thread...I'm also in the market for a B450 motherboard. I've got an extra Ryzen 3 2200g that I want to put to good use. Currently trying to find a board for it...or use my current board and get a new board for my Ryzen 5 2600(Can't decide).

I've had good luck with my current Asrock motherboard. Dare I say...it's perfect. Gigabyte? I didn't have good luck with Gigabyte. I tried one of their mini-itx boards and returned it. Loud chipset whine. As far as MSI goes, I'm not familiar with the current MSI boards. Although...that is precisely what I've been looking at.

This board in particular.

MSI B450 Gaming PRO Carbon AC

It's a little more than I'd like to spend though...especially with a chip that costs 1/2 the price of the board.

At that premum of a price...I think ShrimpBrime is correct. Better start looking at Asus. At least that's what I'm going to be doing tonight.

Best,

Liquid Cool

I do recommend getting ROG if you can afford it. Very nice boards.
Have a quick read, get familiar with the general designs and layouts, among purpose of use.
 
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I have MSI X470 Gaming Plus. The motherboard is high quality and well built. However, the BIOS is far from the best ones I've seen and the updates are slow. Applying BIOS updates is painful and quirky. The MSI B450 boards got updates a bit earlier and aren't bad.
I bought parts and built a Ryzen 2600 PC for my brother using the Gigabyte B450M DS3H and it's working flawlessy. BIOS updates are frequent and easy to install (unlike MSI). Low quality Gigabyte boards is a false rumour just because they built one high-end motherboard series with same VRM as midrange one. Just do your research to find out if the selected motherboard is one of those or not.

The only good B450 line up is from MSI. This doesn't apply to other chipsets. They have the best CPU VRMs on the market and the rest falls way behind.

In the lower end, you have the Gaming Plus. The Tomahawk takes the crown for best mid-range boards. Going up a step you have the Gaming Pro Carbon. I have the Gaming Plus non-Max, with the updated BIOS. Beware that it's a bit buggy. Though, every B450 boards are buggy with Ryzen 3000 CPUs anyway.

Asrock and Gigabyte are not crap. Gigabyte makes the best high-end X570 boards. FYI, the Asrock B450 Pro 4 is the only comparable board to MSI's B450 line up on the same price.
I had similar experience with my MSI X470 Gaming Plus (non-Max):
  • The motherboard itself is top-notch (for the price);
  • the BIOS is OK (bugs, feature-wise and ease of use);
  • BIOS updates from MSI and applying them need lots of patience (and luck).
 
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I'm currently deciding between an AsRock B450M - Pro4-F Vs. B450M Steel Legend as my current Gigabyte X370 has big problems running the 3600 (Boost does not work at all)
Both seem like solid boards, and I'm erring towards the Pro4-F as it seems to be able to handle more powerful chips despite it being only 3x2 Phase vs. the 4-true phases of the steel legend.
 
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I'm currently deciding between an AsRock B450M - Pro4-F Vs. B450M Steel Legend as my current Gigabyte X370 has big problems running the 3600 (Boost does not work at all)
Both seem like solid boards, and I'm erring towards the Pro4-F as it seems to be able to handle more powerful chips despite it being only 3x2 Phase vs. the 4-true phases of the steel legend.

These number-of-phase arguments are getting a bit pretentious nowadays. A more efficient VRM design + good heatsinks trample number of true phases any time of the day. With Steel Legend's heatsinks Asrock went for bling bling instead of functionality as they did with the Pro 4.
 
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These number-of-phase arguments are getting a bit pretentious nowadays. A more efficient VRM design + good heatsinks trample number of true phases any time of the day. With Steel Legend's heatsinks Asrock went for bling bling instead of functionality as they did with the Pro 4.

Yeah. But it's hard to tell good vs. bad design :(
I came across the MSI Mortar Max, that I may get instead. It seems to have good reviews
 

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With B550 just around the corner, this has to be the worst possible time to buy a B450 board. Even if good B550 boards end in the $130-150 range, they should still push down the prices for B450 a little.
 
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Does the B550 actually bring much over the B450?
 
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Integrated 3000 series support, and maybe some AMD recommendations to run the 3950X without problems?
 
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Integrated 3000 series support, and maybe some AMD recommendations to run the 3950X without problems?

The board I am looking at, Mortar Max also has 3000 support out of the box. From reading, the only thing that looks interesting about B550 for me is the extra SATA channels, however, it'd be upto board manufacturers to add additional ports, and I can always get a SATA card when I want to upgrade my NAS past 4 HDDs.
 

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What MOBO would be compatible with this memory?

MSI Tomahawk
MSI PRO-VDH
ASRock Steel Legend
MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX

All of the above, but I don't recommend the PRO-VDH nor the Steel Legend.
 

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All of the above, but I don't recommend the PRO-VDH nor the Steel Legend.
Would be more helpful / informative if you stated why rather than just say what I quoted
 
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Why? I saw a lot of recommendations on reddit on the pro vdh

Hmm, Sorry. I must had been doing something else in parallel. The Pro VDH is actually a decent motherboard, but it's the worst out of all good MSI's B450 (the pro-m2 is too low to be considered) except boards and doesn't have new features. For the same price, the B450M Pro 4 offers you with RGB, USB type-C, double M.2 slot, and doesn't look too bare bones aesthetically (personal opinion). Going either way would be fine if you don't care about any of these (it was my personal opinion anyway) and when it comes to CPU VRM, the MSI is slightly better but not by much. For the Steel Legend though, I don't recommend it just because you have flat out better MSI options out there.
 
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I have an Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming MB with a 3700x (I upgraded from a 2600) and I am very happy with it.
From what I have heard this MB is now shipping with a BIOS that will allow you to use a 3000 Series CPU out of the box.
So as long as the MB Box has the Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready Sticker, it will work with a 3600 out of the box.
 

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Thats mine under $100 and works like a dream has everything I need.

Indeed, I run this as well with a 2700. One of my deciding factors was dual m.2 slots. I only have a slight 3.6ghz o/c on all cores but the board handles it well
 
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I got an MSI Mortar Max to replace my Gigabyte AX370M-DS3H in anticipation of getting better boost clocks.
Unfortunately, it boosts exactly the same, an all core boost of 3.925 on a R5 3600, hopefully though, I won't see the crashes that I was seeing on my gigabyte board.

If I do, then I think it need to replace the CPU :(
 

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Hmm, Sorry. I must had been doing something else in parallel. The Pro VDH is actually a decent motherboard, but it's the worst out of all good MSI's B450 (the pro-m2 is too low to be considered) except boards and doesn't have new features. For the same price, the B450M Pro 4 offers you with RGB, USB type-C, double M.2 slot, and doesn't look too bare bones aesthetically (personal opinion). Going either way would be fine if you don't care about any of these (it was my personal opinion anyway) and when it comes to CPU VRM, the MSI is slightly better but not by much. For the Steel Legend though, I don't recommend it just because you have flat out better MSI options out there.
Thanks for the explanation! I think if I'll find it in a good price I'll takw the Pro4. Although I'll wait for the B550 release and see what's up
I have an Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming MB with a 3700x (I upgraded from a 2600) and I am very happy with it.
From what I have heard this MB is now shipping with a BIOS that will allow you to use a 3000 Series CPU out of the box.
So as long as the MB Box has the Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready Sticker, it will work with a 3600 out of the box.
Thanks for the tip! I saw a lot of shops sell this MOBO and wasn't sure its worth anything
I got an MSI Mortar Max to replace my Gigabyte AX370M-DS3H in anticipation of getting better boost clocks.
Unfortunately, it boosts exactly the same, an all core boost of 3.925 on a R5 3600, hopefully though, I won't see the crashes that I was seeing on my gigabyte board.

If I do, then I think it need to replace the CPU :(
Shane.. It seema quite popular here so it was also an option
 
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Thanks for the explanation! I think if I'll find it in a good price I'll takw the Pro4. Although I'll wait for the B550 release and see what's up

Thanks for the tip! I saw a lot of shops sell this MOBO and wasn't sure its worth anything

Shane.. It seema quite popular here so it was also an option

It's still a really good board. It boosts close to 4Ghz on all core, and gets to 4.15 on a single core. From what I've been reading, that seems pretty common for the 3600. The boost is pretty much the same as the Gigabyte board I have. However, the gigabyte board kept crashing 2-3 times a day. This has been good since this morning, but I need to test it for longer.
The board should support a more powerful CPU when it comes time to upgrade too. It's job is a HTPC/Media Server so there's no need for the latest & greatest tech. It was a platform upgrade from a i7 980x, which did it's job well, but was a power hog.
 

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B450 MSI Gaming Carbon Pro A/C. got mine built last weekend and it has a sticker "Ryzen 3000" ready and it's worked well so far.
 
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