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What are your plans for Windows 8 ?

What are your plans for Windows 8 ?

  • Already using it

    Votes: 2,380 20.7%
  • I'll take a look soon and then decide if it's right for me

    Votes: 760 6.6%
  • I'll upgrade this year

    Votes: 218 1.9%
  • I'll upgrade next year

    Votes: 421 3.7%
  • I'll wait till it's more mature (Service Pack 1)

    Votes: 972 8.4%
  • Too expensive, improvements are not big enough

    Votes: 898 7.8%
  • I don't think I can live with Metro

    Votes: 5,870 51.0%

  • Total voters
    11,519
  • Poll closed .

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#1
Microsoft has launched its new OS. Are you ready to make the switch?
 
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I've tried it, it is okay. If I do make the switch it will be perhaps in 6 months to a year when drivers and things like that have matured as well. Microsoft hasn't provided me anything groundbreaking with their new O/S, so I have no reason to change at this time.
 

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Already upgraded and using it. Nothing really special but I love playing with new software.
 
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Going to wait until service pack 1. Hopefully by then they will add in proper aero etc.
 
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If it comes to tablet version, I'll use it. On a desktop does not see the point.
 
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#6
ill be using it when i gather enough information about the apps i use now and how they act in windows 8.
 
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#7
My main rig is still on windows 7 and don't plan to change. On the other hand I couldn't pass the opportunity to upgrade from a Vista 32bit OEM machine to Release Preview 64bit and then Win 8 Pro for just 30 Euro. It's as simple as that. The choice should be made on what one really needs but it's better to make your mind before the discount is over.
 
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I'm sticking with Win7 for now... I might go Win8 early next year though... :)
 
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#9
Did not vote... you need an "I tried it and then decided it's not right for me, as it is." choice.
 
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#10
I tried Rt and did not like it. For $15 and better battery life I was pursuaded. I installed it on my laptop even. I am switching back to 7 until sp1 because of the lack of driver support.
 
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I use W8 as my main OS since September 2011 (yes lol since the very first preview version). Now I use pro version and I like it.
 

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I'll get it when I can afford it. So I have no idea.
 
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Maybe I will try out next year. for now i stick with W7
 

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I like the interface meters and has more compatibility with Windows 7 applications.

Do not use the laptop I have now only has one GB RAM DDR1, a turion 64 to 2.20 and an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M.

y estoy usando el traductor de google.
 

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Welcome to TPU, el fore :toast:
That translated a lot better than it usually does using Google translator. :D
 

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ive used it and tested it, still though Metro gets in the way, so no thanks. Sticking with 7 till MS provides a means to disable metro.
 

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#19
I like it, since I've figured stuff out now. I think a lot of us grabbed it at a good deal, so it wasn't too bad in that respect. I reinstalled Windows 7 today (on another drive), and i've been thrown off since using 8 :laugh:

I don't find it as bad as a lot of folks.
 
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I don't find it as bad as a lot of folks.
Agreed. It is not as bad as many make it out to be. I am useing 8 right now. I still fight it on some things, mostly driver related issues but the gui is a measily OK. I much prefer 7.
 
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#21
Now using the trial for a bit and I don't like it much. It's a confusing OS because of metro, and dual programs and I can't get rid of metro even though I use classic shell.

The only good thing I can see this far is that it does seem to be faster with images, but as it is now I still prefer win7.

And I still can't change the background color in windows explorer. Being forced to use white is a terror for the eyes.
 
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#22
Windows 8 is a great everyday system, those of us like my dad (age 61) who just checks the news, e-mail, skype, and finances. However most of us know that windows 8 is a pain to use without a touch interface, i might be blowing smoke cause I know you can upgrade a computer with a touch monitor or something, but I don't see the use on the desktop when your screen is 1-3 feet in front of you. Do I really want to reach my arm all the way out every time I want to use my computer, or move my monitor up to my face, no. If you could disable the metro interface it would be fine, but then you would just have windows 7 :banghead: . On OEM's disabling the metro would be great cause most OEM's are selling their computers with this OS. Anyway, I'm getting ahead of my self, so my answer is I'll let it develop a little more, and I might come back to it.

On a side note I saw a laptop with a touch screen, and it was like $700, Windows 8 kinda makes sense in on this device, but idk, still gonna let it develop.
 

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#23
Agreed. It is not as bad as many make it out to be. I am useing 8 right now. I still fight it on some things, mostly driver related issues but the gui is a measily OK. I much prefer 7.
You know, it's funny because I came back to 7 today, and there are already things that i miss about 8, some things that are even easier. (lol i just can't think of them right now) I didn't have too many driver issues, but then again, i don't use too many things, extra peripherals that require it.

My brothers were over last night, and I had rebooted at one point. When it started back up, my brother saw the Start screen and asked what it was. I showed it to him, and he thought it was super awesome. :shadedshu He's kind of ignorant of these things, but I can see how some would like it. :laugh:
 

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I like how Windows 8 integrates with Windows Mobile devices kinda like Apple with Macs and Ipods, But i'm not sure if it can replace what I do with Windows 7, I'll install it on a Media PC first, then wait for about half a year and decide
 
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#25
You know, it's funny because I came back to 7 today, and there are already things that i miss about 8, some things that are even easier. (lol i just can't think of them right now) I didn't have too many driver issues, but then again, i don't use too many things, extra peripherals that require it.
At the moment I can not find much about 8 that 7 does not have. All the little graphs and what not are really cool. 8 sure is snappy. 8 gives me about 30 minutes extra battery life. I really miss my finger scanner for logging in. I can not even get the finger scanner to work in 8 at all, driver issues. I have had two random blue screens since I got windows 8 that I have no clue where they came from. Should of wrote down the codes. In the middle of a video windows 8 restarted automatically for updates which annoyed the heck out of me. I need to find and change that setting. Finding different settings is difficult now but that is all in the learning curve.

This feels way to ranty than I mean it.