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#1
Ok this is a simple question, just wanted to know what CPU is more powerful.

Intel Celeron mobile processor900 (2.2GHz, 800FSB)

Or the

AMD Athlon Neo 64 single-core processor 1.60GHz

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The intel will be faster, although it will probably be paired with intel integrated graphics (a gma450 perhaps) which will have poor hardware decoding support for hd video whereas the amd neo will be paired with at least a HD3200 which does have hardware decoding built in.

If the intel comes with an amd or nvidia graphics chip then ignore the next sentence, as the intel would win hands-down if it comes with amd or nvidia graphics).

Basically the graphics with the amd one should be better (if the celeron comes with intel integrated graphics), and the amd one can playback hd video with no problems (the intel one might not be able to), but the intel processor is faster and if you don't intend to play back HD video then the intel processor will be faster for normal usage (internet browsing, word processing etc).
 
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I think the Amd will be faster because the intel is based in NetBurst and the Amd in K7, and we all know that K7 PWNS NetBurst. If the celeron is based on the conroe-L, then it will be on par or faster than the athlon, otherwise the athlon is faster.
 
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I think the Amd will be faster because the intel is based in NetBurst and the Amd in K7, and we all know that K7 PWNS NetBurst. If the celeron is based on the conroe-L, then it will be on par or faster than the athlon, otherwise the athlon is faster.
it's a 45nm 64 bit capable intel (launched Q1 2009), which means it's conroe based (and thus clock-for clock pretty even with the neo but with the advantage of running faster).
 
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STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADIN.

Joking I would say the AMD.
 
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it's a 45nm 64 bit capable intel (launched Q1 2009), which means it's conroe based (and thus clock-for clock pretty even with the neo but with the advantage of running faster).
Oh, i thought it was netburst based. Then yes, the Celeron is quite a bit faster than the amd.
 
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Oh, i thought it was netburst based. Then yes, the Celeron is quite a bit faster than the amd.
IIRC Intel never released a 64bit capable netburst chip - only conroe or more recent cores can handle 64bit (always the best way to spot if it is a netburst or conroe based chip, although some dud conroe chips were 32bit only under the celeron brand). Of course i'm ignoring itanium, but if someone is looking at buying one of those they should know what they are doing :p
 

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NEO goes head to head with a ATOM and the 900 is faster then both of them :)
 
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Thanks for all your replies seems like the Celeron is the faster CPU.

Im not looking for a laptop for me, i run a business and and was wondering what would be the faster choice since the person who wants this computer wont be gaming, just useing it for internet, word, excel etc and thats it, and the prices for all these laptops that i can get them for are around the same price.

Thanks again :toast:
 

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Celerons aren't worth the silicon they are printed on. I'd go with Neo.


Celeron 900
Neo
 
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lol ok seems like im still getting mixed results, let me put each laptop/notebook specs down with price and see what one would you all go for.

First the: Acer Emachines eME627-204G25Mi Laptop $600

* Processor: AMD Athlon 64 single-core processor 1.60GHz
* Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
* Display Size: 15.6" (39cm) 16:9 Aspect HD LCD
* Display Resolution: 1366x768 Pixel resolution, high-brightness
* Graphics Engine: ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics, supporting Unified Video Decoder, OpenEXR High Dynamic-Range technology, Shader Model 4.0, Microsoft DirectX 10
* RAM: Up to 2 GB of DDR2 667 MHz memory, upgradeable to 4GB using two soDIMM modules
* Built-in Hard Drive: 250GB
* Integrated Webcam: Integrated low-light enhance video webcam
* Network Devices: Integrated 10/100 LAN
* Built-in Wireless Capabilities: 802.11a/b/g/n
* Optical Drives: 8 x DVD super multi double-layer drive
* Audio: High-definition audio support with two built-in stereo speakers
* Ports: Multi-in-1 card reader (SD, MMC, MS, MS Pro, xD), 2 x USB ports, VGA, Headphone/speaker/line-out jack, Microphone-in jack, Ethernet port, DC-in jack for AC adaptor
* Card Reader: Multi-in-1 card reader, Memory Stick, MultiMediaCard, SD Memory Card, Memory Stick Pro and xD-picture Card
* Included Software: eMachines recovery management, Microsoft works 8.5 with Office Home and Student 2007 trial, Adobe reader, Norton Internet Security 2009 trial (60days), Corel WinDVD, NTI Media Maker
* Battery Specs: 6-Cell 48.8W Li-ion
* Battery Power: Up to 2.5hrs
* Colour: Black
* Dimensions (closed): (W) 37.5cm x (D) 25cm x (H) 4cm
* Weight: 2.7kg
* Model: E627
* Brand: Acer
* Warranty: 1 Year with Acer

Package Contents

* Acer emachines E627 laptop
* Bonus carry bag
* AC Adaptor
* Battery
* Support DVD
* User's guide

Second : Acer eMachine 525 Notebook
Celeron 900
$605

Processor: Intel Celeron mobile processor900 (2.2GHz, 800FSB)
Memory: 2Gb DDR2-667MHz (1 x 2GB). max 4Gb (both slot filled)
Display: 15.6 WXGA 16:9 Wide Screen Crystal Brite (1366 x 768)
Hard Drive: 160GbSATA
Optical Drive: DVD super multi (Dual layer)
Graphics: Integrated Intel GMA 4500M chipset 3D graphics upto 1759Mb DVMT5.0
Camera: Acer CrystalEye 0.3M webcam featuring Acer PrimalLite
Communication: WLAN 802.11b/g 10/100 LAN
Ports: 2 x USB Ports

external VGA port

headphone/speakers/lineout

microphone jack

RJ45 ethernet port
Card Reader: 5 in 1 Media Card Reader
OS: Win7 Home Premium
Weight: 2.7kg
Dimensions: 373mm(W) x 246.5mm (D) 27/40mm (H)
Warranty: 1 YEARS Pickup Repair Return
Extra: MS Works 8.5 + Office Trial

And Third: Toshiba L500/CEL T3100 $565

L500/CEL T3100/1.9GHz/15.6/250G/W7
Satellite Pro L500, Intel Celeron T3100, 1.90GHz
15.6" HD 200 CSV LD, 2GB DDR3 1066, 250GB SATA
DL12.7mm 8x, VGA, RGB, HDMI, Modem, Win7 Home Prem
PI DATE : Jan 2010
PRODUCT : Toshiba L500 Notebook
PROC : Mobile Intel Celeron T3100 Proc (1.9GHz, 800MHz FSB,
1MB L2 cache)
CHIPSET : Intel GL40 Express Chipset
MEM : 2GB DDR3 1066 MHz expandable to 2GB
HDD : 250 GB 5,400 rpm SATA HDD
ODD : DVD SuperMulti Dual / Double Layer
DISPLAY : 15.6" Widescreen TFT Active Matrix XGA 200NIT CSV
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GRAPHIC : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator GL40
NTWK : Integrated Realtek 802.11 b/g
V.92 data fax modem, Integrated 10/100Mbps TX Ethern
AUDIO : Intel High Definition Audio Sound, Stereo Speakers
Integrated microphone
PORTS : RGB/HDMI, 2 x USB 2.0, 1 x eSATA/USB Combo,
Headphone & microphone port
SLOTS : Bridge media Reader/Writer slot (SD, MMC, Memory Stick/Memory
Stick Pro)
WEBCAM : Intg webcam
BATT : 6 cell Lithium-Ion battery (up to 3 hours)
OS : Windows 7 32/64bit Home Premium (OEM)
DIM : 383 x 259 x 35.5/39.25 mm (W/D/H)
WEIGHT : From 2.72 Kg
 
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Seems to be a lot of negative stigma towards the celerons since they are the bargain bin chips - but the celeron 900 is a single-core penryn which is actually a very good chip with a 35w tdp - the amd neo is a half-breed between the athlons and phenoms (pretty nice chip to be honest) but clock-for-clock it is just a tad below penryn. Due to this the celeron is definately faster - it would be faster if they were the same clockspeed but because the celeron has a 600mhz advantage as well as being faster clock-for-clock i don't see why people are saying the neo is better.

Much as i love the neo for kicking intel atoms' ass in the mobile performance space (but losing out on heat output and power) it cannot compete with a penryn based celeron (especially one running 600mhz faster).
 
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What will you be using the laptop for? If it's just for net browsing and office work, then go with the neo - it will provide longer battery life and they're usually paired up with a much more capable video card for things like hd videos. If you'd like to do something a bit heavier on the cpu like I dunno rendering, cad drafting, etc. then go for the celeron, but be warned they usually come with intel's own crappy gfx solutions.
 
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Surfing the net, excel and word that's it far as i know