What is happening with my GPU? (Radeon rx480)

[eidairaman1]

So i format the pc and turns out that when i use 17.7.1 radeon driver doesnt show the problem and work good, but if i install newer drivers like Adrenalin Edition 18.9.1 or newer the problem start again, so what is happening?

Make sure motherboard chipset drivers are installed.

Also are you running games off the harddrive?

Kombustor is a poor test, stop basing your reliability/performance off it.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Kombustor is a poor test, stop basing your reliability/performance off it.

ah! thanks ... i was baffled to see no mention of that kind for 1 whole page and i was about to recommend not using Kombustor/Furmark which are patented card destroyer.

 

[eidairaman1]

ah! thanks ... i was baffled to see no mention of that kind for 1 whole page and i was about to recommend not using Kombustor/Furmark which are patented card destroyer.

Nvidia just counts it as a power virus, I believe AMD does too.

 

[chr0nos]

The card is hiiting the Power limit of 110W, so it throttles down to lower the power draw.

He needs to check GPU voltage its not above 1.200v (1200mV) or undervolt the card if possible, All The videos show the card goes above the 110W limit so the card throttles hard, grab a video with your GPU voltage on the OSD.

Edit: or you could edit your bios using an editor to raise the power limit of your card, extract it using GPU-Z, dont flash another bios thats not yours or you could lose some ports on your card or HDCP capability (ask me how i know )

 

[eidairaman1]

The card is hiiting the Power limit of 110W, so it throttles down to lower the power draw.

He needs to check GPU voltage its not above 1.200v (1200mV) or undervolt the card if possible, All The videos show the card goes above the 110W limit so the card throttles hard, grab a video with your GPU voltage on the OSD.

Edit: or you could edit your bios using an editor to raise the power limit of your card, extract it using GPU-Z, dont flash another bios thats not yours or you could lose some ports on your card or HDCP capability (ask me how i know )

I analyze the files for compatibility.

 

[John Naylor]

According to TPU, the card drew 207 watts in peak gaming.... even the reference card drew 167 ... so I don't "get" a design which limits the power to 110w unless we are talking semantics. Are we talking "power to the card" or power to a part of what's on the card ? I also remember the many many articles about the original 6 pin cards exceeding the rated amperage of the PCI-E slot which is why many vendors switched from the 6 to the 8. I also remember that AMD released a 'fix' that cut the power down to eliminate the problem with to squelch the problem of the 6 pin cards getting toasted.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/amd-rx-480-pcie-power-statement/

I would think that the MSI would leave you in a better position than most other cards. TPU wrote: "MSI upgraded the 6-pin power input of the reference design to an 8-pin, which is specified for up to 225 W of power draw. ... Given the reference design retails at $239, this $25 increase is not unreasonable if you consider how much better the MSI RX 480 Gaming X performs in every single test in this review. In my opinion, this is thus far the only RX 480 that looks like it can compete with the GTX 1060 and its custom designs. "

 

[Xzibit]

AIBs will vary mv to their clocks and they will be very generous. I suspect the MSI Gaming X would be close to 1200mv stock in "OC mode" already that why it sucks so much juice.

The one that was reviews here - 8gb version had a 1303mhz @ 1155mv. One of his video shows his MSI Gaming X 4GB clocks hitting 1316mhz which is inline with OC Mode.


Quick way to find out is to

Open AMD radeon settings.
Go to Gaming
Open Global settings
Open Global wattman
Click Reset (Accept the Reset changes)
Exit Global Setting (Click the House Icon) - As a precaution to make sure the settings take effect.
Go back in to Global Settings
Open Global wattman
Under GPU click Frequency so its dynamic so its showing you the numbers for each state
Under voltage control click to Manual so its showing you the numbers for each state

If you can take a picture and post it. If you cant save the profile for reference. You can open it (the XML profile) in Wordpad and paste it here.

 

[walter825]

So this is how is working now with Radeon Software Version 17.7.1, i also undervolt the power -20.

Ac origins

Metro exodus

And this is how WattMan is

I also dont know why the temperature of the gpu does not rise much, before when I ran these demanding games even reached up to 75 degrees and working good

If i install a newer radeon driver the stuttering start again

 

[Xzibit]

So this is how is working now with Radeon Software Version 17.7.1, i also undervolt the power -20.

Ac origins

Metro exodus

And this is how WattMan is
View attachment 118531

I also dont know why the temperature of the gpu does not rise much, before when I ran these demanding games even reached up to 75 degrees and working good

If i install a newer radeon driver the stuttering start again

Its still not reaching or maintaining higher states.

Limite de energia -20% does changing it to 0 or +5% have any effect. My spanish is horrible but here goes, cuando esso esta negativo te vaja los mhz frequencia automatica mente.

Also noticed your Memory Frequency is different now 1775mhz now 1750mhz. Something is being changed.

 

[walter825]

Its still not reaching or maintaining higher states.

Limite de energia -20% does changing it to 0 or +5% have any effect. My spanish is horrible but here goes, cuando esso esta negativo te vaja los mhz frequencia automatica mente.

Also noticed your Memory Frequency is different now 1775mhz now 1750mhz. Something is being changed.

Is cause i use to have MSI gaming app wich have 3 oc modes, but i dont have it now cause to install i have to update radeon driver. So what i should set in power limit?

 

[Xzibit]

Is cause i use to have MSI gaming app wich have 3 oc modes, but i dont have it now cause to install i have to update radeon driver. So what i should set in power limit?

It should be at 0 but if your still having issues maintaning state "Estados" i would reset it "restablecer" and reboot because something else is being changed. Make sure no other app is changing those settings either like MSI afterburner.

Resetting / restablecer will put it at 0 along with all the other settings. Reboot and see if your getting the stutter.

 

[walter825]

It should be at 0 but if your still having issues maintaning state "Estados" i would reset it "restablecer" and reboot. Make sure no other app is changing those settings either like MSI afterburner.

Resetting / restablecer will put it at 0 along with all the other settings. Reboot and see if your getting the stutter.

i reset but the setting are the same. freeuency should be in dinamyc mode?

 

[Xzibit]

i reset but the setting are the same. freeuency should be in dinamyc mode?

No. Unless you want to change it but its better to figure what causing the states "estados" not to be maintained first.

 

[walter825]

No. Unless you want to change it but its better to figure what causing the states "estados" not to be maintained first.

and how i figure that, sorry i dont know much about these things

 

[Xzibit]

and how i figure that, sorry i dont know much about these things

Did you reset it and make sure its at 0 ( Limite de energia 0 ) and try it ?

 

[El Cinico]

Hi! Saw your post and registered because i used to have a similar problem that drove me crazy and hope to help.

Anyways back in the day i had R9 380x that just wouldn't hold the clocks in some games which led to stuttering, temps where fine, PSU good, drivers reintsalled, and after a search of the internets I found that its a software issue that happens to some people, and there's an app called ClockBlocker which solved my problem.
The app fools the AMD driver to run at constant max clock, not very power efficient but it solved it for me, You should try it, see what happens.

 

[walter825]

Did you reset it and make sure its at 0 ( Limite de energia 0 ) and try it ?

this is how run with normal setup power 0 and WattMan settings default, so how i can know if is a hardware issue or what. Should i try that app clockblocker?

Hi! Saw your post and registered because i used to have a similar problem that drove me crazy and hope to help.

Anyways back in the day i had R9 380x that just wouldn't hold the clocks in some games which led to stuttering, temps where fine, PSU good, drivers reintsalled, and after a search of the internets I found that its a software issue that happens to some people, and there's an app called ClockBlocker which solved my problem.
The app fools the AMD driver to run at constant max clock, not very power efficient but it solved it for me, You should try it, see what happens.

Thank you man, yeah this issue is so annoying, ill try that app and see what happen, so in the app i just block the clock in max?

 

[Xzibit]

this is how run with normal setup power 0 and WattMan settings default, so how i can know if is a hardware issue or what. Should i try that app clockblocker?

You can if you want to.

Before you do that can you take a picture of wattman in global settings and post it with GPU frequency set to Dynamic (frequencia Dynamica) and Voltage Control to manual (control de voltage Manual). Dont save it. I just want to see if there is anything odd there.

 

[walter825]

You can if you want to.

Before you do that can you take a picture of wattman in global settings and post it with GPU frequency set to Dynamic (frequencia Dynamica) and Voltage Control to manual (control de voltage Manual). Dont save it. I just want to see if there is anything odd there.

here

 

[Xzibit]

That looks fine for stock.

The last few things i would try is.

1) increasing Power limit (Limite de energia %) 5

2) Apply those setting like in the picture (Frequency Dynamico & Control de voltage manual).

Another thing you can do is you said driver 17.7.1 works fine. You can try saving a default reset profile in those showing the (Frequency Dynamico & Control de voltage manual) and one with the latest driver 19.3.1 and compare them. See if they are the same settings in Radeon settings and if there anything changing in the XMLs.

 

[chr0nos]

Instala los controladores mas nuevos y en "limite de energia" ponlo en +50%, ya te dije la solución pero decidiste ignorarme, la tarjeta de video tiene un TDP maximo de 110W en el bios, se esta "ahorcando" sola porque esta consumiendo mas energia del limite establecido por AMD. los perfiles de OC de la aplicacion que estas usando estan mandando demasiado voltaje al GPU.

el Limite de energia establece el maximo de energia que puede utilizar la tarjeta de video antes de empezar a alentarse para mantener el limite que es de 110W. que al poner el limite en +50% en teoria aumenta hasta 175W aproximadamente antes de que empiece a tirar cuadros.

este es mi ultimo post al respecto, la solución ahi esta.

I analyze the files for compatibility.

yeah at the time i knew nothing about it, I just did a YOLO, at least the card still kinda works but i lost HDCP capability and 2 displayports

 

[walter825]

Instala los controladores mas nuevos y en "limite de energia" ponlo en +50%, ya te dije la solución pero decidiste ignorarme, la tarjeta de video tiene un TDP maximo de 110W en el bios, se esta "ahorcando" sola porque esta consumiendo mas energia del limite establecido por AMD. los perfiles de OC de la aplicacion que estas usando estan mandando demasiado voltaje al GPU.

el Limite de energia establece el maximo de energia que puede utilizar la tarjeta de video antes de empezar a alentarse para mantener el limite que es de 110W. que al poner el limite en +50% en teoria aumenta hasta 175W aproximadamente antes de que empiece a tirar cuadros.

este es mi ultimo post al respecto, la solución ahi esta.



yeah at the time i knew nothing about it, I just did a YOLO, at least the card still kinda works but i lost HDCP capability and 2 displayports

Disculpa amigo, no soy muy bueno entendiendo los terminos en ingles por lo que no entendi muy bien la primera vez que me respondiste, pero hare lo que me dices a ver que pasa. Otra cosa, lo perfiles de OC los tenia con el MSI gaming app pero ahora no esta instalado, por lo que la tarjeta deberia ir de fabrica, y se puede subirle el limite de w desde la bios? es que ya habia intentado ponerlo en +50 con wl WattMan antes de formatear pero lo que pasa es que se ponia inestable el voltaje subia de 100 a 150 cada segundo y seguia con el stuttering. Gracias por la ayuda

 

[El Cinico]

Thank you man, yeah this issue is so annoying, ill try that app and see what happen, so in the app i just block the clock in max?

Yeah the app just "convinces" the AMD driver that max clocks are necessary, it doesn't overclock the card or change voltages or something like that, it's just a fix for power management bug that apparently happens sometimes. You just run the app, nothing else needed, start a game that has issues and watch if the clocks are stable now.

Obviously I haven't tested it on polaris cards, but I think it shold work.

 

[Rouvenor]

Did you manage do find a solution? I'm facing the same issue...

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/cvehqi

 

[walter825]

Did you manage do find a solution? I'm facing the same issue...

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/cvehqi

Try using Radeon Software Version 17.7.1