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ripple can really mess up your system, it screwed my video card fan up (old 8800gt)

the Watts are no problem, but what about the amps? what if your power supply can only supply 62 amps, and 2x260gtx will need 38 each, that comes out to 74, so you are getting 14amps bottleneck?

also TO Power is a good psu manufacturer

When I said good brand, I mean a good brand that puts its continuous ratings on the label versus MAX ratings. How do you get 38A ea. for a GTX260?

I am out :)

If some one cares about a good argument ,
we could do one about the ripoff , of PC Power and Cooling PSUs. :D

Just .. just leave Wile E alone man ... :rolleyes:
 

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I am out :)

If some one cares about a good argument ,
we could do one about the ripoff , of PC Power and Cooling PSUs. :D

not really find me another $60 PSU to run a 4.2ghz phenom 945 8800GTS 512 and the rest of my crap oh and no droop on the rails
 
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Unless your PSU was majorly crippled, Ripple shouldn't be "too" much of a problem. Most reviews/reviewers always have a slight case of ripple but are often let go since "slight" ripple isn't a problem and usually occurs at full load which is hard to achieve with any kind of set up (depending on the psu) And a hard one to point out as well.

Unless your unit was a generic one then yes ripple can be noticeable and a major flaw even when the PSU is at mid to load.

Just out of curiosity what makes you think Ripple was the cause?
I had a 500W OCZ StealthXStream, I don't think anything else in my old system could have caused the video card fan to malfunction

A 260GTX does not draw 38 amps. They recommend a psu with 38A amp on the 12V rail for a single 260 because they are taking into account the rest of the components in the system, and taking into account lower quality psus. The 750W Toughpower will handle a 260GTX SLI setup without breaking a sweat.

And while Channelwell used to be a questionable OEM, they no longer are. Some of the best psus currently on the market are OEMed by Channelwell.

how many amps would you need for 3 gtx260s in sli, how about 3 gtx280s in sli?
 
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not really find me another $60 PSU to run a 4.2ghz phenom 945 8800GTS 512 and the rest of my crap oh and no droop on the rails

All modern PSU does not droop on the rails .

My first PSU for my setup was a HEC , system was ok , OC was medium.
I got the fist HIPER and got better OC , because the HIPER over voltage the 3.3V line.
Does this detail makes HEC a BAD PSU ? Hell no.

By setting the last HIPER4M780 , in comparison with the 580R ,
other that is stronger - cooler , no deference at all.

The technology around PSU's are very matured this days,
its very hard to find a bad apple.

Speaking about cost from my end , HIPER was the lest costly at 130 EUR ,
"Power and Cooling" comes at crazy prices as 200 EUR , not worth to bother.
http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?catalog=20&product=1160737

And imagine that one good unit does not worth more than 12$ as manufacturing cost.


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A 260GTX does not draw 38 amps. They recommend a psu with 38A amp on the 12V rail for a single 260 because they are taking into account the rest of the components in the system, and taking into account lower quality psus. The 750W Toughpower will handle a 260GTX SLI setup without breaking a sweat.

And while Channelwell used to be a questionable OEM, they no longer are. Some of the best psus currently on the market are OEMed by Channelwell.

so what you are saying is 38 amps on a single 12V or can it be dispersed between rails because my PSU apparently has 3 12V rails.
 

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so what you are saying is 38 amps on a single 12V or can it be dispersed between rails because my PSU apparently has 3 12V rails.

They just want you to have a psu capable of putting out 38A combined on all 12v rails, so yeah, it can be dispersed across all three rails.
 
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so what if I want to do 3way sli on gtx280s, how many amps will i need?
 

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so what if I want to do 3way sli on gtx280s, how many amps will i need?

I bet a high quality psu with 60A would handle it without problems.
 
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haha, cool, mine is grade A then.
 

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All modern PSU does not droop on the rails .

My first PSU for my setup was a HEC , system was ok , OC was medium.
I got the fist HIPER and got better OC , because the HIPER over voltage the 3.3V line.
Does this detail makes HEC a BAD PSU ? Hell no.

By setting the last HIPER4M780 , in comparison with the 580R ,
other that is stronger - cooler , no deference at all.

The technology around PSU's are very matured this days,
its very hard to find a bad apple.

Speaking about cost from my end , HIPER was the lest costly at 130 EUR ,
"Power and Cooling" comes at crazy prices as 200 EUR , not worth to bother.
http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?catalog=20&product=1160737

And imagine that one good unit does not worth more than 12$ as manufacturing cost.


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HIPER sucks leave it at that stop trying to boost them up they are not a good brand
 
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HIPER sucks leave it at that stop trying to boost them up they are not a good brand


You are a true basher , but who cares .
 

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Well i have two HIPER and love them both .


leave it at that stop trying to boost them up

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


Are you gonna loose customers ? :D
 

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Well i have two HIPER and love them both .


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


Are you gonna loose customers ? :D

your running a P4 at 100% load your system pulls less than my cpu alone @idle. a 980w PSU better be able to handle it.
 

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I have had 3 Hipers and ALL OF THEM have been a big POS! i used 2 of them till they killed hardware then the 3rd one i gave away when i got a different PSU. And it lasted for about 9months then took out his video card.(atleast it wasn't mine this time) the video card was a 8800GT never overclocked so it can't be blamed on overclocking.


@cdawall +1 to that.


btw i would love to give the new Hiper type-r 2 a try but don't want to risk the hardware... may give it a try in my 2nd rig
 
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I have had 3 Hipers and ALL OF THEM have been a big POS! i used 2 of them till they killed hardware

Next time positioning them, that way ,so to aim birds.

All PSUs get damaged at the AC line , never at the DC.
 

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Next time positioning them, that way ,so to aim birds.

All PSUs get damaged at the AC line , never at the DC.

Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you mean here.
 

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I had a 500W OCZ StealthXStream, I don't think anything else in my old system could have caused the video card fan to malfunction



how many amps would you need for 3 gtx260s in sli, how about 3 gtx280s in sli?
Heh yeah I have heard some cases of ripple dealing with past OCZ units, with one having major ripple and that was the GameXdtream which is essentially the same as the StealthXstreme except (quoted from Hardware secretes):
"The only internal difference between OCZ StealthXstream 600 W and those other two high-end models are the rectifiers used on the +12 V output, capable of delivering less current (and thus power)."
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/451/10

Ripple wasn't to much of an issue says the review on hardware secrets, but for the review on the 700W model at Jonnyguru.com it was somewhat of a disappointment.

According to Jonny:
"A representative of OCZ did find my findings concerning and asked that I return the unit for an exchange. I did so, and in the interim I obtained an FSP Epsilon 600W. The 600W version of the power supply the OCZ GameXstream is based on. In testing that unit, I found a good deal of ripple as well. When a brand new GameXstream was finally returned to me, I immediately plugged it in and found the same results as the first sample."

I never did like OCZ, I wouldn't mind them in a rig of mine, but If i had the option of choosing, I'd take the latter.
 

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Next time positioning them, that way ,so to aim birds.

All PSUs get damaged at the AC line , never at the DC.

the PSU wasn't damaged his PC was its what happens when those crummy HIPER's ripple on the rails
 

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ya Hiper is botique, all flash and no performance, my antec has better ripple control for being 2+ years old.
 

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ya Hiper is botique, all flash and no performance, my antec has better ripple control for being 2+ years old.

your antec is also made by seasonic is i am correct. and almost everyone knows that seasonic is a kick ass OEM
 

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your antec is also made by seasonic is i am correct. and almost everyone knows that seasonic is a kick ass OEM

the 300 watt that came with my Case in 2001 was awesome.
 

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Motherboard some Acer | Asus P8Z77-V Pro |Gigabyter GA-M61p-S3
Cooling dual 80mm cooling fan | WC'ing ) |cheapo
Memory 2x2gb ddr3 | 2x2gb Ripjaws 1600 |4x512mb D9s
Video Card(s) onboard | 60 1GB(hd7770 ) |8800GTS
Storage Momuntus xt 320gb |Kingston Hyper X 120gb SATA III|500gb WD
Display(s) 17in | 42" 1080P HD 3D TV
Case lappy case | CM HAF XB |none yet
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the 300 watt that came with my Case in 2001 was awesome.

what PSU was that? Was it the Smart power 1.0 or maybe the true power? :confused: those are the only 2 PSUs that i know of that were out at that time and i have owned both of them and both the smart power and true power were great.(both 300w i think) but the Smart power 2 SUCKED i also owned it (500w)
 

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what PSU was that? Was it the Smart power 1.0 or maybe the true power? :confused: those are the only 2 PSUs that i know of that were out at that time and i have owned both of them and both the smart power and true power were great.(both 300w i think) but the Smart power 2 SUCKED i also owned it (500w)

ok Antec SX830 SOHO/Workstation Tower (MATX-EATX)
 
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