What storage deals are you waiting for as Black Friday approaches?

[seagate_surfer]

As Black Friday and Cyber Monday approach, what type of storage you are looking to purchase and why?

 

[dorsetknob]

Seeing as you appear to be touting for Biz what are you offering

 

[hat]

If I could get a couple reasonably fast drives for raid0 I'd be happy. 1TB or even 2TB are pretty cheap these days.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

None for me yet - I've had 2 of my 2tb segate drives die out of warranty sadly and I'm sticking to my toshiba x300 6tb for now.

 

[FireFox]

@Vario gave me an idea.

970 Pro

Amazon.de

Amazon extends the Cyber Monday even to a whole week from 19.11 to 26.11. Already in advance, people want to empty their pockets, that's what Amazon Cyber Monday is called. Starts on November 12, 2018.
Means: From 12:11 to 18:11 the countdown, then from 19:11 the Cyber Monday week with the finals on 26.11.

 

[natr0n]

Big reliable drives to dump my bounties on.

 

[Gorstak]

Perhaps it might be wisest to get that zoolz cloud storage offer on sharewareonsale.com and use dark magic and tricks to make it available as a network drive or something. I'd really love to get fractal design r6 case and fill it with 11 drives, but I think that will never happen. I could use some cheapo ssd 240-256GB for my system drive, but unless I stumble on some great offer, like samsung 860 for under 300 kn that will wait until next year. I'm even thinking of selling the drives I already got, provided I find some nice cloud with a permanent storage space and lots of connectivity options deal.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I'd like a better NVME than the Samsung 970..
Something that hits 500 Mb/s or better 4k reads... And at least 300 Mb/s writes is just fine.
I'd like it in 1tb size with a great looking fantastic functioning heat spreader.
I'd be willing to pay $250 for that.

 

[FireFox]

like samsung 860 for under 300 kn

That is EUR41

I'd like a better NVME than the Samsung 970..
Something that hits 500 Mb/s or better 4k reads... And at least 300 Mb/s writes is just fine.
I'd like it in 1tb size with a great looking fantastic functioning heat spreader.
I'd be willing to pay $250 for that.

Let me ask a friend of mine who works in the company Samsung Germany maybe they can make something specifically for your tastes and needs

Don't take me seriously i was Joking

 

[newtekie1]

I've got a new 12-bay enclosure to fill up. I'm hoping to start filling it with some 6TB drives if I can find some good deals.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I need to buy a 12+ TB 7200 RPM to replace my 6 TB game drive. It's down to 14% left and I'm not a fan of uninstalling stuff because my rural internet sucks.

 

[Sasqui]

I've got a new 12-bay enclosure to fill up. I'm hoping to start filling it with some 6TB drives if I can find some good deals.

Myself, I'd like to upgrade my QNap NAS with 2x 4TB or 6TB drives

 

[hat]

I need to buy a 12+ TB 7200 RPM to replace my 6 TB game drive. It's down to 14% left and I'm not a fan of uninstalling stuff because my rural internet sucks.

Would you consider chucking in a second 6TB for raid0? It ought to perform better than any single 12TB drive.

 

[Vario]

970 EVO or equivalently fast NVME in 1TB size, like its competitor WD 1 TB Black. Maybe a Pro if the right deal emerged. Might be this black friday or next years black friday as I am not in a hurry.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Would you consider chucking in a second 6TB for raid0? It ought to perform better than any single 12TB drive.

Nope, double the likelihood of data loss. It would be substantially cheaper though. I have no where to transfer that 6 TB while the RAID is created so that's really a non-starter.

 

[John Naylor]

If I see a nice deal on the Firecudas, I'll prolly grab a few for future builds.

Would you consider chucking in a second 6TB for raid0? It ought to perform better than any single 12TB drive.

Not likely .... I set up RAID 0 and RAID1 arrays in a test box every 3 years ... still haven't found an impact ona desktiop system outside of benchmarks. I mean if you want to get good benchmarks yeah that's a win..... if you doing storage intensive workstation apps like animation, rendering and video editing, go for it. But otherwise, I have yet to see a true productivity impact. Here's a list of quotes I collected maybe 10 years ago.... nothing's changed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_0#RAID_0

RAID 0 is useful for setups such as large read-only NFS servers where mounting many disks is time-consuming or impossible and redundancy is irrelevant.

RAID 0 is also used in some gaming systems where performance is desired and data integrity is not very important. However, real-world tests with games have shown that RAID-0 performance gains are minimal, although some desktop applications will benefit.[1][2]

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2101
"We were hoping to see some sort of performance increase in the game loading tests, but the RAID array didn't give us that. While the scores put the RAID-0 array slightly slower than the single drive Raptor II, you should also remember that these scores are timed by hand and thus, we're dealing within normal variations in the "benchmark".

Our Unreal Tournament 2004 test uses the full version of the game and leaves all settings on defaults. After launching the game, we select Instant Action from the menu, choose Assault mode and select the Robot Factory level. The stop watch timer is started right after the Play button is clicked, and stopped when the loading screen disappears. The test is repeated three times with the final score reported being an average of the three. In order to avoid the effects of caching, we reboot between runs. All times are reported in seconds; lower scores, obviously, being better. In Unreal Tournament, we're left with exactly no performance improvement, thanks to RAID-0

If you haven't gotten the hint by now, we'll spell it out for you: there is no place, and no need for a RAID-0 array on a desktop computer. The real world performance increases are negligible at best and the reduction in reliability, thanks to a halving of the mean time between failure, makes RAID-0 far from worth it on the desktop.

Bottom line: RAID-0 arrays will win you just about any benchmark, but they'll deliver virtually nothing more than that for real world desktop performance. That's just the cold hard truth."

http://www.techwarelabs.com/articles/hardware/raid-and-gaming/index_6.shtml
".....we did not see an increase in FPS through its use. Load times for levels and games was significantly reduced utilizing the Raid controller and array. As we stated we do not expect that the majority of gamers are willing to purchase greater than 4 drives and a controller for this kind of setup. While onboard Raid is an option available to many users you should be aware that using onboard Raid will mean the consumption of CPU time for this task and thus a reduction in performance that may actually lead to worse FPS. An add-on controller will always be the best option until they integrate discreet Raid controllers with their own memory into consumer level motherboards."

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1001325
"However, many have tried to justify/overlook those shortcomings by simply saying "It's faster." Anyone who does this is wrong, wasting their money, and buying into hype. Nothing more."

http://computer-drives-storage.suite101.com/article.cfm/how_raid_storage_improves_performance
"The real-world performance benefits possible in a single-user PC situation is not a given for most people, because the benefits rely on multiple independent, simultaneous requests. One person running most desktop applications may not see a big payback in performance because they are not written to do asynchronous I/O to disks. Understanding this can help avoid disappointment."

http://www.scs-myung.com/v2/index.p...nt&print=1&page=&Itemid=55&option=com_content
"What about performance? This, we suspect, is the primary reason why so many users doggedly pursue the RAID 0 "holy grail." This inevitably leads to dissapointment by those that notice little or no performance gain.....As stated above, first person shooters rarely benefit from RAID 0.__ Frame rates will almost certainly not improve, as they are determined by your video card and processor above all else. In fact, theoretically your FPS frame rate may decrease, since many low-cost RAID controllers (anything made by Highpoint at the tiem of this writing, and most cards from Promise) implement RAID in software, so the process of splitting and combining data across your drives is done by your CPU, which could better be utilized by your game. That said, the CPU overhead of RAID0 is minimal on high-performance processors."

Even the HD manufacturers limit RAID's advantages to very specific applications and non of them involves gaming:

http://westerndigital.com/en/products/raid/

 

[seagate_surfer]

Interesting and varied responses. Anybody else?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I need to buy a 12+ TB 7200 RPM to replace my 6 TB game drive. It's down to 14% left and I'm not a fan of uninstalling stuff because my rural internet sucks.

Literally me, my 6tb x300 is going down soon, no way is an ssd enough for me - at least without trading my kidney although I'll easily manage for two more years.

 

[bonehead123]

Me wantz a 1000 PB nvme drive that gives 100,000 mbps speeds on all functions for around $100 shipped, with 5000TB of pre-installed pron hahahaha

 

[E-curbi]

Sorry, but nothing from Seagate.

I do have a Seagate 3.5HDD in my Glyph Studio external drive (photo below). It's relatively quiet, yet my entire office is close to inaudible, so I only power up the Glyph drive for backups twice a month, NEVER have it running while working, too much noise getting work completed. Also both my Sony Shuttle Professional external drives arrived with Seagate 2.5in HDDs. Swapped them out for Samsung (inaudible) SSDs.

Yea, so I really shouldn't be posting in this thread at all. lol

For this holiday season, I'm grabbing an Intel Optane 280GB 905P PCIe Add In Card with the cool blue leds, about $399 I'm guessing. (the 280GB capacity has yet to be announced) And also the Intel Optane 480GB 2.5in M.2 to U.2 form factor for about $549.

Seagate bought out LSI who bought out SandForce, and you guys didn't do ANYTHING with the technology you purchased?

I guess that's why I'm not buying anything from Seagate this Christmas and haven't for many years.

Last drive I got from Seagate was the 500GB Seagate SEVEN, super thin portable drive with the cool blue led drive function lighting. It's a beautiful little drive, I'd love to see more innovative products like that from your company, then I would place them on my "upgrade to purchase" list.

(pic attached)

Sorry, guess I'm a hardware snob. lol

 

[johnspack]

Actually I just want to find a good price on a Seagate 2TB hd logic board so I can get my data back. It's like 80can or so delivered. I think my drive is still under warranty, but I just want my data back.
Model: ST2000DM001. Well, it's 2TB of important data, I would love a new logic board for xmas...... It's the reason I have 11TBs of Toshiba storage now.

 

[Solaris17]

Density, I'm hunting for 6+TB single drives for arrays.

 

[johnspack]

I actually need at least another 6TB soon. Data adds up quickly. Oh, and then a 6TB backup drive. Oh jeez... I actually do need to buy some drives soon.

 

[seagate_surfer]

Actually I just want to find a good price on a Seagate 2TB hd logic board so I can get my data back. It's like 80can or so delivered. I think my drive is still under warranty, but I just want my data back.
Model: ST2000DM001. Well, it's 2TB of important data, I would love a new logic board for xmas...... It's the reason I have 11TBs of Toshiba storage now.

Go to this link and ask in the forums. They may be able to help you as it is not as easy as getting a new board. It has to have the correct specs.

 

[jboydgolfer]

As a parent, as well as a guardian of two nephews full-time,I wish I could make purchases on Black Friday. Sadly, things like driving lessons, new sneakers, school clothes, and the endless list of games they want, close they need, toys they must have, and food they devour, takes precedent.

75% off all drives would be great. I have a single 250 GB solid-state drive in my computer, that is constantly running out of space , leaving me to delete this game, or empty the recycling bin, or run drive cleanup, Just to stop my drive from turning that dreadful red color in windows explorer severe price cuts is what im looking for.