• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

What will you do after January 14, 2020?

Joined
Dec 16, 2017
Messages
534 (0.74/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Desktop5
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling AMD Wraith Stealth
Memory 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage Kingston HyperX Fury 240 GB // Toshiba 2 TB HDD // WD 2 TB HDD // Mushkin Triactor 3DL 256 GB
Display(s) LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply Corsair CX650M
Mouse Logitech Wireless Mouse M280 // Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0
Keyboard HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004)
Software Windows 10
Nope, that's for the ten years period. I'm talking about SAC (Semi-Annual Channel, the old Current Branch for Business). Although, the extended support (which is actually 30 months, not three years as I thought before) is only available on Enterprise and Education. And, again, I think that you need special servicing tools (WSUS or System Center Configuration Manager) to avoid OS upgrades during all that time.

Sources: Lifecycle fact-sheet and Release Information
 
Joined
Dec 13, 2014
Messages
200 (0.11/day)
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 R2
Audio Device(s) onboard Realtek ALC892
Power Supply Seasonic S12II 620w (SS-620GB)
Nope, that's for the ten years period. I'm talking about SAC (Semi-Annual Channel, the old Current Branch for Business). Although, the extended support (which is actually 30 months, not three years as I thought before) is only available on Enterprise and Education. And, again, I think that you need special servicing tools (WSUS or System Center Configuration Manager) to avoid OS upgrades during all that time.

Sources: Lifecycle fact-sheet and Release Information
but if you look carefully at the MS Release info page there, windwhirl, the 1809 release is only available on SAC-T and LTSC channels, there's no SAC channel for 1809 yet.

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-will-ms-start-pushing-the-update-to-win10-1809-on-machines-set-for-the-sac-branch/
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2018
Messages
264 (0.64/day)
I just installed Windows 7 Enterprise today because Windows 10 has gotten slowly worse for me.

The performance is just not there anymore; its an overweight bloated mess. it used to be lean and mean in July 2015.
Had a lot of issues with audio interfaces starting with 1703 I think....I was a first day adopter of WIN 10
and recommended it to everyone. But it got to the point of having to revert the updates 2 times. This was before I heard of the group policy edit.
I think reverting the updates messed up the install. it was taking 2 min to load on an 2000 mb sec NVme SSD....that's just stupid....

Once I got 7 up; i was booting in like 3 sec after post...

I'm going to ride 7 out for awhile. So long as all my software is working. so far my so good. clean as a whistle.
I plan to do regular backups incase I have an issue. But all the drivers on my x79/C600 chipset and NVME drive are good.
Happy to campout on 7 forever as long as I don't have a need for a program that is not compatible.

just my cents....

So far most people disagree with me, and don't have many issues ....(that they know about anyhow)...
I am a little more particular in that i know how my hardware should perform. And when its not; I start digging for
answers.
 
Joined
Jun 15, 2016
Messages
1,041 (0.82/day)
Location
Pristina
System Name My PC
Processor 4670K@4.4GHz
Motherboard Gryphon Z87
Cooling CM 212
Memory 2x8GB+2x4GB @2400GHz
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS Black Edition 1425MHz OC+, 8GB
Storage Intel 530 SSD 480GB + Intel 510 SSD 120GB + 2x500GB hdd raid 1
Display(s) HP envy 32 1440p
Case CM Mastercase 5
Audio Device(s) Sbz ZXR
Power Supply Antec 620W
Mouse G502
Keyboard G910
Software Win 10 pro
I am on win 10 for a year now and before that i had win 7 enterprise but like they say "all good things come to end" and we must go with time.
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2018
Messages
264 (0.64/day)
yes, I have 10 on my other 5 computers and 1 mac on OSX 10.13.6,
I have some Audio production software's that I use in my Studio that
needs to work when I need it too; not when Microsoft want's it to...

I'm hoping to ride out 7 until I really need to upgrade for some reason ...I'm all X79 and x58 rigs,
that work great for my needs. Until 8 and 10 core CPU's are not relevant anymore for the DAWs...
We will see how AMD new Cpu's perform at low latency audio. In this
respect Intel still is king. But I bet AMD will close the gap in the near future.

But yea I'll need to go back to 10 for sure if I upgrade to a new board....
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Messages
2,403 (1.57/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Ciel / Yukino
Processor AMD Ryzen R3 1200 @ 3750MHz / Intel Core i3 5005U
Motherboard MSI B350M PRO-VDH / HP 240 G5
Cooling Wraith Stealth / Stock
Memory 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz @ 3466MHz / 2x 4GB Hynix + Kingston DDR3L 1600MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB / Intel HD 5500
Storage SSD WD Green 240GB M.2 + HDD Toshiba 2TB / SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA
Display(s) HP w17e 1440x900 @ 75Hz/ Integrated 1366x768 @ 94Hz
Case Generic / Stock
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 / Realtek ALC282
Power Supply Sentey XPP 525W / Power Brick
Mouse Logitech G203 / Elan Touchpad
Keyboard Generic / Stock
Software Windows 10 LTSC x64 + Arch Linux
Out of curiousity, why would anyone use Windows 7 "Enterprise"?
Easier to use with KMSPi... coff coff.
They had some DVDs around, and a valid licence, yeaaah.
 
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
365 (0.08/day)
Location
Auburn Hills, MI
System Name Dell G3
Processor Intel i5-8300HQ
Memory 8 GB DDR4 @ 2666 mhz
Video Card(s) NVIDIA GTX 1060 MAx-Q
Storage 1 GB Evo 960 + 256 GB M.2 SSD
I think reverting the updates messed up the install. it was taking 2 min to load on an 2000 mb sec NVme SSD....that's just stupid....

Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.
 
Joined
Mar 6, 2017
Messages
1,742 (1.73/day)
Location
North East Ohio, USA
System Name My Super Computer
Processor Intel Core i7 8700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming
Cooling Corsair H55 AIO
Memory 2x8GB Crucial/Micron Ballistix Sport DDR4-2400
Video Card(s) ASUS GeForce GTX1060 6GB
Storage Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB NVMe SSD (System Drive), Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB SATA SSD (Game Drive)
Display(s) HP 2311x and Acer G206HQL
Case CoolerMaster MasterBox Lite 5 RGB
Audio Device(s) On-Board Sound
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 650 G3 Gold
Mouse Logitech M705
Keyboard Logitech Wave K350
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/liwjs3
Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.
I'd agree.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
7,653 (3.26/day)
Easier to use with KMSPi... coff coff.
They had some DVDs around, and a valid licence, yeaaah.
That's not what I was wondering, Windows 7 Ultimate has everything a general or even power user could need, so what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?
Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.
With an SSD, the difference isn't really noticeable. It's only a couple of second faster. Yay...
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Messages
2,403 (1.57/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Ciel / Yukino
Processor AMD Ryzen R3 1200 @ 3750MHz / Intel Core i3 5005U
Motherboard MSI B350M PRO-VDH / HP 240 G5
Cooling Wraith Stealth / Stock
Memory 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz @ 3466MHz / 2x 4GB Hynix + Kingston DDR3L 1600MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB / Intel HD 5500
Storage SSD WD Green 240GB M.2 + HDD Toshiba 2TB / SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA
Display(s) HP w17e 1440x900 @ 75Hz/ Integrated 1366x768 @ 94Hz
Case Generic / Stock
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 / Realtek ALC282
Power Supply Sentey XPP 525W / Power Brick
Mouse Logitech G203 / Elan Touchpad
Keyboard Generic / Stock
Software Windows 10 LTSC x64 + Arch Linux
That's not what I was wondering, Windows 7 Ultimate has everything a general or even power user could need, so what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?

With an SSD, the difference isn't really noticeable. It's only a couple of second faster. Yay...
KMS server validations only work with Pro or Enterprise, so...
 
Joined
Dec 16, 2017
Messages
534 (0.74/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Desktop5
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling AMD Wraith Stealth
Memory 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage Kingston HyperX Fury 240 GB // Toshiba 2 TB HDD // WD 2 TB HDD // Mushkin Triactor 3DL 256 GB
Display(s) LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply Corsair CX650M
Mouse Logitech Wireless Mouse M280 // Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0
Keyboard HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004)
Software Windows 10
but if you look carefully at the MS Release info page there, windwhirl, the 1809 release is only available on SAC-T and LTSC channels, there's no SAC channel for 1809 yet.

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-will-ms-start-pushing-the-update-to-win10-1809-on-machines-set-for-the-sac-branch/
Yes, that is because SAC is meant to be released once Microsoft is sure that most of the bugs in SAC-T have been fixed. The 1809 release will probably be available on SAC after 19H1/1903 reaches SAC-T.

The whole release cycle is something like this: MS Internal builds -> Windows Insider Skip Ahead -> Insider Fast Ring / Slow Ring -> Release Preview -> SAC-T -> SAC

EDIT: I was not satisfied with what I wrote, so I run CMapTools and made something I hope is a little bit better.

Windows 10 Development Branches.png
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 31, 2010
Messages
3,341 (0.93/day)
Location
Gougeland (NZ)
System Name Cumquat 2000
Processor AMD RyZen R7 2700 @ 3400MHz
Motherboard Asus TUF X470-Plus Gaming
Cooling Cryorig R1 Universal
Memory 16GB GSkill TridentZ DR4-3200 16-18-18-38 1.35V
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RX580 Gaming 8GB
Storage 1X Samsung 860 EVO 500GB SATA AHCI 1x Sandisk 128GB PCIe, 12TB of HDD Storage
Display(s) ViewSonic VX2457 MHD 75Hz FreeSync 1920x1080p
Case SilverStone Raven RV02B-W + 3x SS AP181 + USB3.0 upgrade
Audio Device(s) Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro PCIe + Pioneer VSX-531 amp Technics 100W Speaker set
Power Supply Enermax RevolutionXT II 750W 80+ Gold
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard Logitech G105
Software Windows 10 X64 PRO (build 1903)
Benchmark Scores it sucks even less much now ;)
windows 10 for everyone
 
Joined
Oct 25, 2018
Messages
264 (0.64/day)
Windows 7 Enterprise is basically the same as Ultimate. But usually is more stable IMOP...

Lol.. yes KMSp was my fall back; but I found a legit key for $6 on Ebay. so no funny business needed....

Which is great. I never did trust the DAZ bootloaders or KMS Pico....I'm sure they both
have lots of dirty ware inside them. PLus the fact everyone and their mother probably reverse
engineers those and repost them online. so you never know what your getting into.
 
Joined
Sep 13, 2008
Messages
1,229 (0.30/day)
Location
Metro Atlanta
Processor AMD Ryzen 1700
Motherboard Gigabyte AB350 GAMING 3
Memory 16GB (2x8) 3200MHz
Display(s) Acer 24" LCD
Software Windows 10 Pro
I will continue to ignore it. Just less times i'll have to reboot :roll:
 
Joined
Jul 21, 2018
Messages
485 (0.96/day)
Location
Germany
System Name Athlon Dragon
Processor AMD Threadripper 1950X
Motherboard ASUS ROG-STRIX-X399
Cooling Dual custom-loop watercooling
Memory 32GB (4x8GB)
Video Card(s) RX Vega 64
Storage Samsung 860 EVO
Display(s) 24", 1440p, freesync, 144hz
Case Thermaltake Core X9
Audio Device(s) beyerdynamic MMX 300
Power Supply EVGA Supernova T2 1600W
Mouse OG steelseries Sensei
Keyboard steelseries 6Gv2
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores GPUPI 1B GPU - 13.637s
Gonna make the switch to templeOS.

Okay to be serious, I don´t care. I didn´t care back when XP was dropped and now I´ll do the same and just continue to use 7 on my systems that run on it. Most of them are offline anyway so whats the big deal.
My main system for work and important stuff is already on Win10 for a while now, but not out of free choice but rather because I needed it in order to make use of most recent hardware :/
 

Ahhzz

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 27, 2008
Messages
5,881 (1.37/day)
System Name Ironic
Processor Intel 2500k 4.4Ghz
Motherboard ASROCK|Z68 PROFESSIONAL Gen 3
Cooling Corsair H60
Memory 32GB GSkill Ripjaw X 1866
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage Samsung 860 EVO 1Tb/WD BLACK SN750 500GB NVMe
Display(s) 22" Dell Wide/ 22" Acer wide/24" Asus
Case Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s) SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard Corsair Vengeance K90
Software Win 7 Ult 64 bit
That's not what I'm asking though..

This. Why use it over 7 Ultimate?
I'm running Ultimate, and have been since the expo in Atlanta got me a free license. However, the KMS versions allow for activation of N and E versions, which remove stuff like mandatory IE, windows media player, etc. That's why I would go that route, anyway :)
As for after 2020? I'll continue to run Windows 7 Ultimate, unless the corporation I support which is moving to the LTSB process can manage to license me under their account. And I'm not sure if I'll do it then. 7 is stable for me, and my exposure to vulnerabilities is low. Even with wandering, as I'm prone to saying, "the back alleys of the Internet", I haven't had to deal with a personal instance of a virus or malware on the household PCs for years. I'll stick with 7 until I can't manage to force it onto my next system.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2015
Messages
2,403 (1.57/day)
Location
Argentina
System Name Ciel / Yukino
Processor AMD Ryzen R3 1200 @ 3750MHz / Intel Core i3 5005U
Motherboard MSI B350M PRO-VDH / HP 240 G5
Cooling Wraith Stealth / Stock
Memory 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200MHz @ 3466MHz / 2x 4GB Hynix + Kingston DDR3L 1600MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire R9 270X Toxic 2GB / Intel HD 5500
Storage SSD WD Green 240GB M.2 + HDD Toshiba 2TB / SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA
Display(s) HP w17e 1440x900 @ 75Hz/ Integrated 1366x768 @ 94Hz
Case Generic / Stock
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC892 / Realtek ALC282
Power Supply Sentey XPP 525W / Power Brick
Mouse Logitech G203 / Elan Touchpad
Keyboard Generic / Stock
Software Windows 10 LTSC x64 + Arch Linux
you can use Daz Loader instead of KMS and go for Ultimate Version.
I was referring to legal KMS validation, but oh well, you're not wrong.
 
Joined
Aug 16, 2016
Messages
947 (0.78/day)
Location
Croatistan
System Name 1.21 gigawatts!
Processor Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
Cooling Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Slim with Arctic MX-4
Memory 16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 MHz
Video Card(s) Palit GTX 1080 Game Rock
Storage Mushkin Triactor 240GB + Toshiba X300 4TB
Display(s) Philips 237E7QDSB/00 23" FHD AH-IPS
Case Aerocool Aero-1000 white + 4 Arctic F12 PWM Rev.2 fans
Audio Device(s) Onboard Audio Boost 3 with Nahimic Audio Enhancer
Power Supply FSP Hydro G 650W
Mouse Cougar 700M eSports white
Keyboard E-Blue Cobra II
Software Windows 8.1 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores CPU-Z 1.82.2 (4,8 GHz + XMP): 574 ST / 2887 MT Cinebench R15: 948 (stock) / 1044 (4,7 GHz)
I will keep Win 7 SP1 on my back-up laptop and Win 8.1 on my PC. Win 10 needs a lot more tweaking and deleting certain updates to block telemetry and other direct-spying tools.
 
Joined
Nov 6, 2018
Messages
120 (0.30/day)
Anyone here have any experience of running Spybot Antibecon on Windows 10 to enforce privacy. ...? ....... How good it is ? ... Does it work the way intended and blocks Microsoft's Spying.??

Anyone here have experience of using GPEdit to block Microsoft Update in Windows 10 ... ??
 
Joined
Sep 10, 2018
Messages
573 (1.26/day)
Location
California
System Name His & Hers
Processor i9 9900k @5ghz/ R9 3900X Stock
Motherboard Asus Maximus XI Code/ X570 Aorus Master
Cooling Corsair h150i Pro Push/Pull. 5x Corsair ML120 + 4x Corsair LL120/ Corsair h115i Platinum
Memory 32 GB 4x8GB 3600mhz Corsair RGB Pro/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix 2080 ti/ Titan XP
Storage lots of SSD.
Display(s) Asus ROG PG278QR / MSI 27 inch VA panel.
Case Corsair 500D SE RGB/ Phanteks Evolv X
Audio Device(s) Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech Z 625
Power Supply Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 850w x2
Mouse Logitech G903 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Platinum/ Logitech G Pro
Continue running Windows 10 like I've been doing since it launched.
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
967 (0.40/day)
Processor Ryzen 1200
Motherboard X370 Prime A
Cooling Wraith Prism
Memory 16gb
Video Card(s) RX580 8gb Nitro+
Power Supply Seasonic 620w
Software Win 10 x64
Havent used 7 for a long time now, will keep on using win10 on main pc and win8.1 on my workbench pc until support ends.
 
Top