What will you do after January 14, 2020?

windwhirl · Mar 20, 2019

eidairaman1 said:
Ltsb

Nope, that's for the ten years period. I'm talking about SAC (Semi-Annual Channel, the old Current Branch for Business). Although, the extended support (which is actually 30 months, not three years as I thought before) is only available on Enterprise and Education. And, again, I think that you need special servicing tools (WSUS or System Center Configuration Manager) to avoid OS upgrades during all that time.

Sources: Lifecycle fact-sheet and Release Information

erpguy53 · Mar 21, 2019

windwhirl said:
Nope, that's for the ten years period. I'm talking about SAC (Semi-Annual Channel, the old Current Branch for Business). Although, the extended support (which is actually 30 months, not three years as I thought before) is only available on Enterprise and Education. And, again, I think that you need special servicing tools (WSUS or System Center Configuration Manager) to avoid OS upgrades during all that time.

Sources: Lifecycle fact-sheet and Release Information

but if you look carefully at the MS Release info page there, windwhirl, the 1809 release is only available on SAC-T and LTSC channels, there's no SAC channel for 1809 yet.

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-...in10-1809-on-machines-set-for-the-sac-branch/

juiseman · Mar 21, 2019

I just installed Windows 7 Enterprise today because Windows 10 has gotten slowly worse for me.

The performance is just not there anymore; its an overweight bloated mess. it used to be lean and mean in July 2015.
Had a lot of issues with audio interfaces starting with 1703 I think....I was a first day adopter of WIN 10
and recommended it to everyone. But it got to the point of having to revert the updates 2 times. This was before I heard of the group policy edit.
I think reverting the updates messed up the install. it was taking 2 min to load on an 2000 mb sec NVme SSD....that's just stupid....

Once I got 7 up; i was booting in like 3 sec after post...

I'm going to ride 7 out for awhile. So long as all my software is working. so far my so good. clean as a whistle.
I plan to do regular backups incase I have an issue. But all the drivers on my x79/C600 chipset and NVME drive are good.
Happy to campout on 7 forever as long as I don't have a need for a program that is not compatible.

just my cents....

So far most people disagree with me, and don't have many issues ....(that they know about anyhow)...
I am a little more particular in that i know how my hardware should perform. And when its not; I start digging for
answers.

kastriot · Mar 21, 2019

I am on win 10 for a year now and before that i had win 7 enterprise but like they say "all good things come to end" and we must go with time.

juiseman · Mar 21, 2019

yes, I have 10 on my other 5 computers and 1 mac on OSX 10.13.6,
I have some Audio production software's that I use in my Studio that
needs to work when I need it too; not when Microsoft want's it to...

I'm hoping to ride out 7 until I really need to upgrade for some reason ...I'm all X79 and x58 rigs,
that work great for my needs. Until 8 and 10 core CPU's are not relevant anymore for the DAWs...
We will see how AMD new Cpu's perform at low latency audio. In this
respect Intel still is king. But I bet AMD will close the gap in the near future.

But yea I'll need to go back to 10 for sure if I upgrade to a new board....

lexluthermiester · Mar 21, 2019

juiseman said:
I just installed Windows 7 Enterprise

kastriot said:
I am on win 10 for a year now and before that i had win 7 enterprise

Out of curiousity, why would anyone use Windows 7 "Enterprise"?

GoldenX · Mar 21, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
Out of curiousity, why would anyone use Windows 7 "Enterprise"?

Easier to use with KMSPi... coff coff.
They had some DVDs around, and a valid licence, yeaaah.

Fizban · Mar 21, 2019

juiseman said:
I think reverting the updates messed up the install. it was taking 2 min to load on an 2000 mb sec NVme SSD....that's just stupid....

Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.

trparky · Mar 21, 2019

Fizban said:
Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.

I'd agree.

lexluthermiester · Mar 21, 2019

GoldenX said:
Easier to use with KMSPi... coff coff.
They had some DVDs around, and a valid licence, yeaaah.

That's not what I was wondering, Windows 7 Ultimate has everything a general or even power user could need, so what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?

Fizban said:
Definitely something wrong with your particular installation. Windows 10 boots up incredibly fast on my laptop. Not sure if faster than Windows 7 would necessarily, but at least comparably fast.

With an SSD, the difference isn't really noticeable. It's only a couple of second faster. Yay...

GoldenX · Mar 21, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
That's not what I was wondering, Windows 7 Ultimate has everything a general or even power user could need, so what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?

With an SSD, the difference isn't really noticeable. It's only a couple of second faster. Yay...

KMS server validations only work with Pro or Enterprise, so...

lexluthermiester · Mar 22, 2019

GoldenX said:
KMS server validations only work with Pro or Enterprise, so...

That's not what I'm asking though..

lexluthermiester said:
what would 7 Enterprise have to offer that would make using it preferable?

This. Why use it over 7 Ultimate?

windwhirl · Mar 22, 2019

erpguy53 said:
but if you look carefully at the MS Release info page there, windwhirl, the 1809 release is only available on SAC-T and LTSC channels, there's no SAC channel for 1809 yet.

https://www.askwoody.com/2019/when-...in10-1809-on-machines-set-for-the-sac-branch/

Yes, that is because SAC is meant to be released once Microsoft is sure that most of the bugs in SAC-T have been fixed. The 1809 release will probably be available on SAC after 19H1/1903 reaches SAC-T.

The whole release cycle is something like this: MS Internal builds -> Windows Insider Skip Ahead -> Insider Fast Ring / Slow Ring -> Release Preview -> SAC-T -> SAC

EDIT: I was not satisfied with what I wrote, so I run CMapTools and made something I hope is a little bit better.

Athlonite · Mar 22, 2019

windows 10 for everyone

juiseman · Mar 22, 2019

Windows 7 Enterprise is basically the same as Ultimate. But usually is more stable IMOP...

Lol.. yes KMSp was my fall back; but I found a legit key for $6 on Ebay. so no funny business needed....

Which is great. I never did trust the DAZ bootloaders or KMS Pico....I'm sure they both
have lots of dirty ware inside them. PLus the fact everyone and their mother probably reverse
engineers those and repost them online. so you never know what your getting into.

Munki · Mar 22, 2019

I will continue to ignore it. Just less times i'll have to reboot :roll:

Dinnercore · Mar 22, 2019

Gonna make the switch to templeOS.

Okay to be serious, I don´t care. I didn´t care back when XP was dropped and now I´ll do the same and just continue to use 7 on my systems that run on it. Most of them are offline anyway so whats the big deal.
My main system for work and important stuff is already on Win10 for a while now, but not out of free choice but rather because I needed it in order to make use of most recent hardware :/

Ahhzz · Mar 22, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
That's not what I'm asking though..

This. Why use it over 7 Ultimate?

I'm running Ultimate, and have been since the expo in Atlanta got me a free license. However, the KMS versions allow for activation of N and E versions, which remove stuff like mandatory IE, windows media player, etc. That's why I would go that route, anyway

As for after 2020? I'll continue to run Windows 7 Ultimate, unless the corporation I support which is moving to the LTSB process can manage to license me under their account. And I'm not sure if I'll do it then. 7 is stable for me, and my exposure to vulnerabilities is low. Even with wandering, as I'm prone to saying, "the back alleys of the Internet", I haven't had to deal with a personal instance of a virus or malware on the household PCs for years. I'll stick with 7 until I can't manage to force it onto my next system.

ManGupta · Mar 22, 2019

GoldenX said:
KMS server validations only work with Pro or Enterprise, so...

you can use Daz Loader instead of KMS and go for Ultimate Version.

GoldenX · Mar 22, 2019

ManGupta said:
you can use Daz Loader instead of KMS and go for Ultimate Version.

I was referring to legal KMS validation, but oh well, you're not wrong.

Komshija · Mar 22, 2019

I will keep Win 7 SP1 on my back-up laptop and Win 8.1 on my PC. Win 10 needs a lot more tweaking and deleting certain updates to block telemetry and other direct-spying tools.

lexluthermiester · Mar 22, 2019

juiseman said:
I never did trust the DAZ bootloaders

I've tried them out of curiousity, never had a problem as far as virii/malware. DAZ was/is clean.

ManGupta · Mar 24, 2019

Anyone here have any experience of running Spybot Antibecon on Windows 10 to enforce privacy. ...? ....... How good it is ? ... Does it work the way intended and blocks Microsoft's Spying.??

Anyone here have experience of using GPEdit to block Microsoft Update in Windows 10 ... ??

oxrufiioxo · Mar 24, 2019

Continue running Windows 10 like I've been doing since it launched.

Countryside · Mar 24, 2019

Havent used 7 for a long time now, will keep on using win10 on main pc and win8.1 on my workbench pc until support ends.

System Name	System V
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory	2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage	SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / WD20EZRX / MKNSSDTR256GB-3DL / LG BH16NS40 / ST10000VN0008
Display(s)	LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case	NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply	Corsair CX650M
Mouse	Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0
Keyboard	HP Vectra VE keyboard (Part # D4950-63004)
Software	Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Dev channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores	Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624

Processor	AMD Phenom II X4 925
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 R2
Memory	4 GB DDR3 1333Mhz
Audio Device(s)	onboard Realtek ALC892
Power Supply	Seasonic S12II 620w (SS-620GB)
Software	Windows 10 Education x64 21H2

System Name	My PC
Processor	4670K@4.4GHz
Motherboard	Gryphon Z87
Cooling	CM 212
Memory	2x8GB+2x4GB @2400GHz
Video Card(s)	XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS Black Edition 1425MHz OC+, 8GB
Storage	Intel 530 SSD 480GB + Intel 510 SSD 120GB + 2x500GB hdd raid 1
Display(s)	HP envy 32 1440p
Case	CM Mastercase 5
Audio Device(s)	Sbz ZXR
Power Supply	Antec 620W
Mouse	G502
Keyboard	G910
Software	Win 10 pro

System Name	Ciel
Processor	AMD Ryzen R5 5600X
Motherboard	Asus Tuf Gaming B550 Plus
Cooling	ID-Cooling 224-XT Basic
Memory	2x 16GB Kingston Fury 3600MHz@3933MHz
Video Card(s)	Gainward Ghost 3060 Ti 8GB + Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 8GB
Storage	NVMe Kingston KC3000 2TB + NVMe Toshiba KBG40ZNT256G + HDD WD 4TB
Display(s)	AOC Q27G3XMN + Samsung S22F350
Case	Cougar MX410 Mesh-G
Audio Device(s)	Kingston HyperX Cloud Stinger Core 7.1 Wireless PC
Power Supply	Aerocool KCAS-500W
Mouse	EVGA X15
Keyboard	VSG Alnilam
Software	Windows 11

System Name	MSI GT77HX
Processor	Intel i9-13980HX
Memory	64 GB DDR5 @ 4800 mhz
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA RTX 4090 Mobile
Storage	2 TB 980 Pro
Display(s)	4K/144 Hz Mini-LED
Benchmark Scores	23,616 Timespy Graphics

System Name	My Ryzen 7 7700X Super Computer
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
Motherboard	Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling	DeepCool AK620 with Arctic Silver 5
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 EXPO (CL30)
Video Card(s)	XFX AMD Radeon RX 7900 GRE
Storage	Samsung 980 EVO 1 TB NVMe SSD (System Drive), Samsung 970 EVO 500 GB NVMe SSD (Game Drive)
Display(s)	Acer Nitro XV272U (DisplayPort) and Acer Nitro XV270U (DisplayPort)
Case	Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH C
Audio Device(s)	On-Board Sound / Sony WH-XB910N Bluetooth Headphones
Power Supply	MSI A850GF
Mouse	Logitech M705
Keyboard	Steelseries
Software	Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores	https://valid.x86.fr/liwjs3

System Name	Cumquat 2021
Processor	AMD RyZen R7 7800X3D
Motherboard	Asus Strix X670E - E Gaming WIFI
Cooling	Deep Cool LT720 + CM MasterGel Pro TP + Lian Li Uni Fan V2
Memory	32GB GSkill Trident Z5 Neo 6000
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ OC RX6800 16GB DDR6 2270Cclk / 2010Mclk
Storage	1x Adata SX8200PRO NVMe 1TB gen3 x4 1X Samsung 980 Pro NVMe Gen 4 x4 1TB, 12TB of HDD Storage
Display(s)	AOC 24G2 IPS 144Hz FreeSync Premium 1920x1080p
Case	Lian Li O11D XL ROG edition
Audio Device(s)	RX6800 via HDMI + Pioneer VSX-531 amp Technics 100W 5.1 Speaker set
Power Supply	EVGA 1000W G5 Gold
Mouse	Logitech G502 Proteus Core Wired
Keyboard	Logitech G915 Wireless
Software	Windows 11 X64 PRO (build 23H2)
Benchmark Scores	it sucks even more less now ;)

Processor	AMD Ryzen 1700
Motherboard	Gigabyte AB350 GAMING 3
Memory	16GB (2x8) 3200MHz
Display(s)	Acer 24" LCD
Software	Windows 10 Pro

System Name	FATTYDOVE-R-SPEC
Processor	Intel i9 10980XE
Motherboard	EVGA X299 Dark
Cooling	Water (1x 240mm, 1x 280mm, 1x 420mm + 2x Mo-Ra 360 external radiator)
Memory	64GB DDR4
Video Card(s)	RTX 2080 Super / RTX 3090
Storage	Crucial MX500
Display(s)	24", 1440p, freesync, 144hz
Case	Open Benchtable (OBT)
Audio Device(s)	beyerdynamic MMX 300
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova T2 1600W
Mouse	OG steelseries Sensei
Keyboard	steelseries 6Gv2
Software	Windows 10

System Name	OrangeHaze / Silence
Processor	i7-13700KF / i5-10400 /
Motherboard	ROG STRIX Z690-E / MSI Z490 A-Pro Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H75 / TT ToughAir 510
Memory	64Gb GSkill Trident Z5 / 32GB Team Dark Za 3600
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 2070 / Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage	Hynix Plat P41 2Tb\Samsung MZVL21 1Tb / Samsung 980 Pro 1Tb
Display(s)	22" Dell Wide/24" Asus
Case	Lian Li PC-101 ATX custom mod / Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s)	SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply	Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless / Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard	K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red
Software	Win10 Pro \ RIP:Win 7 Ult 64 bit

System Name	1.21 gigawatts!
Processor	Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard	MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
Cooling	Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Slim with Arctic MX-4
Memory	16GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3000 MHz
Video Card(s)	Palit GTX 1080 Game Rock
Storage	Mushkin Triactor 240GB + Toshiba X300 4TB + Team L3 EVO 480GB
Display(s)	Philips 237E7QDSB/00 23" FHD AH-IPS
Case	Aerocool Aero-1000 white + 4 Arctic F12 PWM Rev.2 fans
Audio Device(s)	Onboard Audio Boost 3 with Nahimic Audio Enhancer
Power Supply	FSP Hydro G 650W
Mouse	Cougar 700M eSports white
Keyboard	E-Blue Cobra II
Software	Windows 8.1 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R15: 948 (stock) / 1044 (4,7 GHz) FarCry 5 1080p Ultra: min 100, avg 116, max 133 FPS

System Name	His & Hers
Processor	R7 5800X/ R9 5950X Stock
Motherboard	X570 Aorus Master/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
Cooling	Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum
Memory	32 GB 4x8GB 4000CL15 Trident Z Royal/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk
Video Card(s)	Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090
Storage	lots of SSD.
Display(s)	LG G2 65/LG C1 48/ LG 27GP850/ MSI 27 inch VA panel 1440p165hz
Case	011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X
Audio Device(s)	Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B
Power Supply	Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard	Corsair K95 RGB Platinum/ Logitech G Pro

Processor	11700
Motherboard	TUF z590
Memory	G.Skill 32gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	ROG Vega 56
Case	Deepcool
Power Supply	RM 850

What will you do after January 14, 2020?

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