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What's wrong with this 9700 Pro?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Quartz, Jan 30, 2005.

  1. Quartz New Member

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    Slight artifacts start appearing during the Windows logo screen immediately after BIOS screen and before Windows login screen. This means artifacts start appearing even before the ATI drivers have been loaded.

    This card appears new and has no physical damage whatsoever.

    Gameplay during PES 4 only have un-noticeable artifacts but thick vertical alternate lines show up during NFSU2.

    Other than the artifacts, this 9700 Pro seems to work perfectly. Memory is Samsung 2.86ns but artifacts are present regardless of what GPU core and memory speed I set (i.e. lower than the default 325/310). The BIOS is a stock BIOS (I've checked against ATI website) and the card has not been modified in any way.

    Is this a memory, GPU core or other problem? Can it be repaired? Thanks in advance!

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    Quartz,

    Can you touch the memory chips without burning you finger ?
     
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    The memory chips are just warm.

    However, the heat sink is hot. Blowing an extra 80mm fan onto the heat sink doesn't solve the artifact problem.

    But then, artifacts already start appearing immediately after POST when the card is still not hot at all.

    I've read somewhere about many different causes of artifacts but I don't know which one causes mine.

    My PSU is Antec Smartpower 350W.
    K7S5A motherboard
    AMD Palomino 1800+ @ stock 1540 MHz
    2 hard disks
    1 CD-RW drive
    1 TV tuner card
    1 ethernet card
     
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    Urlyin Senior Moderator

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    Quartz... have you tried the card in a different system?
     
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    Tested on a similar system. Same results.

    Going to test on my friend's P4 system soon.

    Forgot to mention that my 9800Pro runs perfectly on my system above. But once I changed the card to this 9700Pro, artifacts start to appear immediately after POST.
     
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    Well other than trying to do a new paste job on the GPU and reflashing the BIOS there isn't much you can do. If possible you should try to RMA it or try to shoot ViperJohn a pm to see if he can help.
     
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    The first picture looks like my old 9800 pro,but on a lesser scale, rma'd it the next day. result= new card from ati!
     
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    .. its fried RMA it.. hope its still stock everything.
     
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    Thanks, guys!!!

    NFSU2 was like this earlier on :

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    Surprisingly, there were only minor artifacts during Game play for PES4 (the earlier picture in the first post here showed there were vertical blocks of artifacts in the game introduction). Actually, the artifacts weren't even noticeable in picture 3 below :

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    After I meddled with the resolution of NFSU2, the vertical green blotchy artifacts no longer appeared. The artifacts were only visible upon very close examination (Can you spot them in the pictures below? And no, the light blue ray across the sky is not an artifact.) :

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    Slight artifacts were seen during 3Dmark03 benchmarking but its GPU core apparently runs well. Benchmarks of this 9700Pro vs 9800Pro in the same system. (The scores are on the low side due to my system's limitations) :

    9700 Pro :4630
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    9800 Pro :5235

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    I just bought this 9700 Pro from ebay and I'm not sure whether there is any warranty left. The seller hasn't reverted to me after I asked him a few days ago.

    From my own inspection of the card, a BIOS dump and verification over at ATI website, everything appear to be still at stock.
    2002/10/17
    R300 Samsung DDR BIOS P/N 113-94206-102

    It comes with 2.86ns Samsung Ram chips.

    Even the heat sink pins suggest that it has not been tampered with before.

    If there's no more warranty, isn't it going to be expensive to send it to ATI?
     
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    If there's no warranty, there's no sense in sending the card back to Ati, as they don't take responsibility for cards whose warranty have expired, I'm sorry...
    An unrelated question, may I ask why did you change a 9800Pro for a 9700?
     
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    I bought this 9700 Pro for my cousin's computer which has a similar set up as mine which has a 9800Pro.
     
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    Hey 15th warlock I'm not sure that you are correct about ati and outdated warranty. If the card still shows all stock, you can try to register it like you just bought it. possibly the prev owner never did and the serial isn't in the database. Also Ati will fix the card (as long as it is still stock) for 75 usd that is better than the price of a new 9700pro or a sharp stick in the eye.
     
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