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It's the difference between theory "flash memory likes heat!" and reality "flash memory is just one of many components on that SSD"


Flash mem/NVME drives seem to have a pretty wide operating range, none of which i'd consider justification for not cooling them

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It seems to be based on a myth from one specific flash module that worked this way combined with the next part after this crop

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And the factual original source: Flash memory *may* slow down under 25c
A heatsink will never get it that cold.
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Commonly misquoted/misunderstood article is here:
Influence of temperature of storage, write and read operations on multiple level cells NAND flash memories - ScienceDirect

At cold temperatures (under the -40C) data doesnt stay stored as long, and above the max recommended temps (85c) data corruption occurs.
A simple heatsink keeping them at room temperature is going to keep them in that happy middle ground since consumers don't use their computers in ambients of -40c or +85c
 
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I just picked up a couple WD Black 8TB drives (the 128MB cache version) to put in a RAID1 array for general storage. This is an upgrade from a Caviar Black 750GB (this was a single platter version if I remember right). I paid $60 for the Caviar Black in 2010 (it's still going strong!) and $140 each for the 8TB on black friday (I mention this just for perspective). I got these because they were the best bang for the buck with a five year warranty; speed wasn't my main concern, but wasn't last on my list of requirements.

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Here's the Caviar Black 750GB (both drives are empty):

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And here's the new drive (not in RAID1 yet):

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Quite an upgrade I'd say for a HDD. I would have hoped HDD performance would have improved more over 13 years but you can't fight physics that much I suppose.
 
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I currently have 6 sim contracts... x3 unlimited data + x3 capped data. Multiple use-cases... work phone, personal phone, spare phone, x2 tablets for the kids/wife/guests and a sim operated MIFI adapter for the TV. Actually it was x4 unlimited data + x2 capped but with this new upgrade i downgraded to the discounted 100GB which will pop into the S8+ (work phone)... i hardly use anything over 20/30GB p/m on the work phone hence for £15 100gb makes for a nice saving. Unfortunately Vodafone's reception is the best in our area... they charge quite a bit for unlimited SIMs unlike other providers hence i'm glad i got some savings out of it.
Alrighty, I have a 4G sub on my phone and another as my internet connection, both are capped at 100Mbit.
 
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Crazy how the "Christmas Money" from my Job was exactly the Price of this Card...
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The 4090 tuf card i got, coil whined worse than a pig would squeal you just stole it´s food from. So it got returned. Now i am trying my luck with this card in stead. It got coil whine, but far less than the tuf card and i find it acceptable, but not great either.

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So what it this?
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Its the adaptor to replace that ugly turd nvidia provide for RTX 4090.
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My only black friday buying. Got it for 6,6 USD including my countries taxes.
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The 4090 tuf card i got, coil whined worse than a pig would squeal you just stole it´s food from. So it got returned. Now i am trying my luck with this card in stead. It got coil whine, but far less than the tuf card and i find it acceptable, but not great either.

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don't forget to register the card!
 
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The 4090 tuf card i got, coil whined worse than a pig would squeal you just stole it´s food from. So it got returned. Now i am trying my luck with this card in stead. It got coil whine, but far less than the tuf card and i find it acceptable, but not great either.



So what it this?

Its the adaptor to replace that ugly turd nvidia provide for RTX 4090.

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My only black friday buying. Got it for 6,6 USD including my countries taxes.

I think it's pregnant ;)
 
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There an ITX baby in the PC
Ah yeah. It's still growing up. Soon as big as daddy. Still some way throw.

What you see is my dual system project I Can finnally call finish. I have a build thread it about it under projekt builds, if you want to see more about it.
 
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I had no idea that the NAND chips heat themselves intentionally to reach optimal temperature.
They don't, only one particular model of NAND flash ever did that

The rest are designed to not heat up enough to get outside their safe ranges, and thats about it
 
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wow quite a few 4090s on here. Know how many nvme drives I could buy with that coin??? Well i'd run outa slots first :(
 
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wow quite a few 4090s on here. Know how many nvme drives I could buy with that coin??? Well i'd run outa slots first :(
Well I ran out of nvme slots before I got a 4090. So I had no other choice than to go for a 4090 :laugh:
 
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They don't, only one particular model of NAND flash ever did that

The rest are designed to not heat up enough to get outside their safe ranges, and thats about it

That clears up that confusion.
 
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Storage 970 evo plus 500gb & 970 evo 500gb many sammy 2.5" ssd's and WD BLK hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 second floor for 2nd rad x2/ Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply EVGA 1200P2 & 1000P2 with APC AX1500 & 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U & 750P2
Mouse Redragon Perdition x3
Keyboard G710+x3
Software Win-7 pro x3 and Linux Cinnamon 20.2x2 & win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores Are in the benchmark section

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Processor 5800X3D | 5700G
Motherboard ROG Impact | B550I Aorus AX
Cooling TR FC140 | Scythe BS3
Memory 32GB 3733CL14 | 16GB 4333CL16
Video Card(s) RTX 4070 Ti Eagle | Vega 8
Case Caselabs S3 | Lone Industries L5
Power Supply Corsair HX1000 | HDPlex 200W
White PA120......unfortunately, Reddit was wrong as usual. Phanteks T30 really doesn't fit properly, at least not without damaging fins/T30's corner pads/the white paint. Works on the FC140 but I can't fit a FC140.

I want to love Thermalright, but they just don't let me. The SS135's coldplate defaced one of my CPUs' IHS, and now one of the PA120's heatsink banks can't even stand up straight (leans visibly to one side). The tech may be basically identical between TR and Noctua but as hard as I try I just can't ignore the difference in care and build quality. I don't think they deserve a third chance.

I think I will return the PA120 and buy a U12A Chromax. A PA120+A12x25s costs me almost $10 more than the U12A Chromax by itself, and RAM clearance becomes a problem. Pity because the PA120 would have been one gorgeous cooler with the T30s mounted.

Can't say I didn't try, Thermalright.

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