What's your latest tech purchase?

[trickson]

Overclockers don't like them because the VRMs aren't as robust, at least when it comes to Z boards. But there are so many models with PRIME in the name, that it's perfectly possible that's not true for all of them. The tough part is that not every variant gets a thorough review.

That is why I LOVE my ASUS TUF it is certified and tested to be military grade! This is the best MB and video card that I have ever had so far. Thing went together so fast and OMG talk about smooth transition just put my M2 Drive in and ASUS took it from there!
This is the Best system I have put together yet surely the fastest!

This just in!

 

[lexluthermiester]

That is why I LOVE my ASUS TUF it is certified and tested to be military grade! This is the best MB and video card that I have ever had so far. Thing went together so fast and OMG talk about smooth transition just put my M2 Drive in and ASUS took it from there!
This is the Best system I have put together yet surely the fastest!

This just in!
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That's a solid PSU. I use those frequently at my shop.

 

[trickson]

That's a solid PSU. I use those frequently at my shop.

Yeah I confess I am a corsair Fanboy, Been one for 15 years now, This is the third one now all my Puters save one are Corsair Powered.

 

[kapone32]

What's wrong with it? If I'm in the market for an Asus board, all I see are Primes.

For me it started with the Prime X370. I went through 3 of those and the last one they sent back was so flaky that I had to replace it in a build in 6 months. There is no post code or anything on that board to tell you what is going on. I thought that they had improved but if you read customer reviews on the Prime Pro X570 board you will see that people are still having issues like that I did have a B450 Prime that worked pretty good but that was with a 3100x. Strix and TUF are both good.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

This is how "5 months of frustration" looks like . Decided to keep the SUPRIM as it is the better card, sold the ASUS to a friend.

 

[trickson]

This is how "5 months of frustration" looks like . Decided to keep the SUPRIM as it is the better card, sold the ASUS to a friend.

Have you done what I have with my TFU 1650 Super Clocked video card?
Paired it up with the TUF MB?
It's SOOO FAAAWWWKKKING AMAZING! Trust me NO one knows what I am talking about till you do it.

 

[Valantar]

Have you done what I have with my TFU 1650 Super Clocked video card?
Paired it up with the TUF MB?
It's SOOO FAAAWWWKKKING AMAZING! Trust me NO one knows what I am talking about till you do it.

Does using an Asus GPU (a bog-standard PCIe device) on an Asus motherboard (which in terms of PCIe is just a pass-through for the controller on the CPU) act any differently than in any other motherboard? How so? Besides peripheral things like RGB sync and so on, that is.

 

[trickson]

Does using an Asus GPU (a bog-standard PCIe device) on an Asus motherboard (which in terms of PCIe is just a pass-through for the controller on the CPU) act any differently than in any other motherboard? How so? Besides peripheral things like RGB sync and so on, that is.

Yes don't knock it if you don't HAVE it.
I HAVE it and it is SOOOOOOO FAAAWWWWKing AMAZING!
From the sounds of it you sound jelly. Just sayin jelly sounding...PCI-e 4.0 is bog-standard? WTF???

 

[Valantar]

Yes don't knock it if you don't HAVE it.
I HAVE it and it is SOOOOOOO FAAAWWWWKing AMAZING!
From the sounds of it you sound jelly. Just sayin jelly sounding...PCI-e 4.0 is bog-standard? WTF???

Uh, yes, literally every X570 and B550 board has it, as will Z590 and some Z490 with Rocket Lake, so... yes, quite standard these days. It seems like what you're describing is successful plug-and-play installation, which can be incredibly satisfying (troubleshooting can be such a hassle!) but is hardly limited to same-brand parts.

Also, please don't stop so low as to accuse people of jealousy just because they're asking you to clarify what you're saying. That's incredibly childish and impolite.

 

[trickson]

Uh, yes, literally every X570 and B550 board has it, as will Z590 and some Z490 with Rocket Lake, so... yes, quite standard these days. It seems like what you're describing is successful plug-and-play installation, which can be incredibly satisfying (troubleshooting can be such a hassle!) but is hardly limited to same-brand parts.

Also, please don't stop so low as to accuse people of jealousy just because they're asking you to clarify what you're saying. That's incredibly childish and impolite.

I was using the word jokingly that is why it is spelled wrong grow some skin..
And not only is plug and play amazing but yeah there is a NOTICEABLE upgrade from the other system I was on located in sig.
You are not talking to some one whom hasn't tried it you know. I think though I am. so yeah you still do not know the full effect of pairing the TUF up with the right TUF parts LIKE I HAVE!
SO you may just have a BOG-standard setup BUT NOT ME!

I also have to add this on the plug and play aspect.
I took the M.2 1T SSD out of the MSI system plugged it into the TUF system and it was a flawless transition! Not only have I NEVER been able to do this but it is still working 100% without an issues (save the one that windows just updated and FIXED).
YOU are so WRONG in every way!

 

[Valantar]

I was using the word jokingly that is why it is spelled wrong grow some skin..
And not only is plug and play amazing but yeah there is a NOTICEABLE upgrade from the other system I was on located in sig.
You are not talking to some one whom hasn't tried it you know. I think though I am. so yeah you still do not know the full effect of pairing the TUF up with the right TUF parts LIKE I HAVE!
SO you may just have a BOG-standard setup BUT NOT ME!

But I'm trying to ask you what precisely that pairing of TUF parts bring to the table - don't they act exactly like any other compatible PCIe devices? You're still not saying how it brings anything more to the table than bog-standard PCIe compatibility.

Also, if you're joking, a good tip is to pay attention to your tone - disrespectful jokes need some sort of common understanding to work. Oh, and where's the punchline in "you sound jelly. U jelly?" That doesn't sound so much as a joke as just acting nasty for kicks. I mean, you might find that funny, but it hardly qualifies as a joke. Insults can be made jokingly in a joking context between people who are all in on the joke, but an insult delivered without any such context won't be understood as a joke regardless of the intent. It's not about (not) having a thick skin, it's about understanding fundamental social cues.

 

[DR4G00N]

I also have to add this on the plug and play aspect.
I took the M.2 1T SSD out of the MSI system plugged it into the TUF system and it was a flawless transition! Not only have I NEVER been able to do this but it is still working 100% without an issues (save the one that windows just updated and FIXED).

I mean that's pretty standard for Windows installations nowadays. I've used my current Win10 install on five different cpu/mobo/ram combos and it's still fine.

I think most of what your experiencing has to do with going from low-mid tier motherboards to a high-end one more than anything else.

This isn't the tread for discussing this anyway.

 

[trickson]

Guess you haven't read a post very well.
Try it out and see first off there is the software between the video card and the MB, Now they are all in ONE sorta speak. Seamless and bound!
See things are faster better and yes look far more impressive now than ever.
It's like night and day apples and oranges.

Once the MB and video card were installed and they both come up showing that TUF logo there is much much more. The software is now working so well together it's like nothing I have seen before.
It is like having 2 sticks of RAM both from the same vendor NOT the same matched pair though. They may work just fine together but then there is that matched pair of RAM you have that well is BETTER!

It is just like that!

I mean that's pretty standard for Windows installations nowadays. I've used my current Win10 install on five different cpu/mobo/ram combos and it's still fine.

I think most of what your experiencing has to do with going from low-mid tier motherboards to a high-end one more than anything else.

This isn't the tread for discussing this anyway.

NO no it is NOT! I have never been able to do this till NOW EVER! With any of the LISTED SYTEMS Save this one! So sorry you are wrong !
This is the FIRST build I have ever done with out a full clean reinstall of windows! EVER!
And I have to think and give the credit to ASUS TUF!

 

[kapone32]

Guess you haven't read a post very well.
Try it out and see first off there is the software between the video card and the MB, Now they are all in ONE sorta speak. Seamless and bound!
See things are faster better and yes look far more impressive now than ever.
It's like night and day apples and oranges.

Once the MB and video card were installed and they both come up showing that TUF logo there is much much more. The software is now working so well together it's like nothing I have seen before.
It is like having 2 sticks of RAM both from the same vendor NOT the same matched pair though. They may work just fine together but then there is that matched pair of RAM you have that well is BETTER!

It is just like that!


NO no it is NOT! I have never been able to do this till NOW EVER! With any of the LISTED SYTEMS Save this one! So sorry you are wrong !
This is the FIRST build I have ever done with out a full clean reinstall of windows! EVER!
And I have to think and give the credit to ASUS TUF!

It is funny that the TUF series is no longer what it used to be but if you are over the moon with the performance of your system good on you. That is why we have leisure computers.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Tuf still the only board with 5 year warranty I believe.

 

[trickson]

Hi,
Tuf still the only board with 5 year warranty I believe.

Board and video card as well. And they also certify them with extreme tests. But what does having the best MOSFT and Caps have to do with things?

 

[Valantar]

Guess you haven't read a post very well.
Try it out and see first off there is the software between the video card and the MB, Now they are all in ONE sorta speak. Seamless and bound!
See things are faster better and yes look far more impressive now than ever.
It's like night and day apples and oranges.

Once the MB and video card were installed and they both come up showing that TUF logo there is much much more. The software is now working so well together it's like nothing I have seen before.
It is like having 2 sticks of RAM both from the same vendor NOT the same matched pair though. They may work just fine together but then there is that matched pair of RAM you have that well is BETTER!

It is just like that!


NO no it is NOT! I have never been able to do this till NOW EVER! With any of the LISTED SYTEMS Save this one! So sorry you are wrong !
This is the FIRST build I have ever done with out a full clean reinstall of windows! EVER!
And I have to think and give the credit to ASUS TUF!

Heh, I moved the W10 boot SSD from my old Asus Rampage Formula X48 Core2Quad system (bought in 2008!) to my then-new Biostar X370GTN+Ryzen 5 1600X (using the same GPU as previously) in 2017 and it booted up first try. I still did a reinstall as I wanted a clean install on the NVMe drive that I had also bought at the same time, but I didn't need to. Windows 10 is incredibly flexible, so it'd much more of a reason for that part of your experience than the TUF+TUF combo. Did you have the same GPU in your old system? That's often the biggest driver hurdle for moving an OS install between systems.

But again, you seem to not understand what I'm asking you: I'm not criticizing you or saying what you're saying isn't true, I'm asking you to expand on and explain what causes you to say they work together better than any random combination of parts. You mention software - do you mean for RGB, fan control and so on? That's definitely an advantage, as long as said software is good, though it's hardly an experience-defining thing (at least not for me), more of a set-it-and-forget-it kind of thing IMO. What software are you talking about, and what does it do? You say things are faster: isn't that down to the faster CPU? Or is there some other integration speeding things up somehow? And you say it "looks more impressive" - how? I'm just trying to understand what you are describing here, as your wording is very broad and doesn't go into much detail, so it's difficult to understand what makes that specific combination stand out beyond any fast and issue-free system.

 

[trickson]

Heh, I moved the W10 boot SSD from my old Asus Rampage Formula X48 Core2Quad system (bought in 2008!) to my then-new Biostar X370GTN+Ryzen 5 1600X (using the same GPU as previously) in 2017 and it booted up first try. I still did a reinstall as I wanted a clean install on the NVMe drive that I had also bought at the same time, but I didn't need to. Windows 10 is incredibly flexible, so it'd much more of a reason for that part of your experience than the TUF+TUF combo. Did you have the same GPU in your old system? That's often the biggest driver hurdle for moving an OS install between systems.

But again, you seem to not understand what I'm asking you: I'm not criticizing you or saying what you're saying isn't true, I'm asking you to expand on and explain what causes you to say they work together better than any random combination of parts. You mention software - do you mean for RGB, fan control and so on? That's definitely an advantage, as long as said software is good, though it's hardly an experience-defining thing (at least not for me), more of a set-it-and-forget-it kind of thing IMO. What software are you talking about, and what does it do? You say things are faster: isn't that down to the faster CPU? Or is there some other integration speeding things up somehow? And you say it "looks more impressive" - how? I'm just trying to understand what you are describing here, as your wording is very broad and doesn't go into much detail, so it's difficult to understand what makes that specific combination stand out beyond any fast and issue-free system.

It's like having a matched pair of RAM vs an un-matched pair.
That is exactly what it is like. as for speed well that is again suggestive and all, But it's a true feel of this TUF system.
For sure the TUF parts will work fine with every other thing out for sure, It's just like I said above having a matched pair is just better that is all.

You have a PAIR of shoes right NOT a shoe a pair! It is just like that take one shoe and then try pairing it up with something else sure you can find one that fits but isn't it best when they come in a matched pair? Figure it out!

Can hardly wait the 6 days till I get this NEW Case. for it too! Then it gets a NEW HOME!

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

Have you done what I have with my TFU 1650 Super Clocked video card?
Paired it up with the TUF MB?
It's SOOO FAAAWWWKKKING AMAZING! Trust me NO one knows what I am talking about till you do it.

Don't have a TUF motherboard and not planning on getting one

 

[trickson]

Don't have a TUF motherboard and not planning on getting one

Then you really do not have a leg to stand on when I say what I say.
It is far better than ever expected on EVERY level! IMHO this pair up could ONLY get better if they did a TUF RAM version and PSU. That would be so cool and a M.2 SSD TUF version! I would get one for sure!

 

[kapone32]

Well sometime this week I will be getting a 6800XT. I have wanted Multi Lane Pcie 4.0 support (Not 16x4) ever since I saw that my MSI X570 Pro supports lane splitting. I searched all day yesterday for a board that had 8x8 Pcie support. I did not want to pay more than what I paid for my X399 Taichi so boards like the Godlike, Crosshair, Extreme or even the Taichi did not qualify and Amazon has some ridiculous pricing. I could have gotten the Prime Pro from Asus for $300 (CAD) but I don't trust the Prime line. I could have gotten the Asus Strix B550E for $329 (on sale) but I wanted the full chipset. I have not been on Newegg in a while but I decided to take a look and lo and behold.

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Buy MSI MPG X570S CARBON EK X AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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I seriously hope this board supports lane splitting because potentially I can have 2 RAID 0 NVME arrays from the chipset and the CPU as the 3rd Pcie 16 slot is actually wired as an 8 slot. The board only has 4 SATA ports. I know I have a Pciex1 SATA card sitting around somewhere. Sometimes these boards limit you in terms of different ports sharing lanes. The only thing I read was that the Pcie1 headers share lanes so you can only use one. Even though this board has 3 M2 slots it still has one of the best Pcie implementations I have seen on X570. I kind of reminds me of the Asus X470 Crosshair in that regard.

I cannot wait to get into some heavy PC activities with this board as the base of my best Gaming PC.

In terms of the RAID I want to be able to fully be ready to take advantage of Direct Storage when it drops. You can also call me crazy but I saw that the 6000 series GPUs support crossfire so maybe just maybe there may be a watercooled 6800XT in my future. Before you jump all over me my favourite Game to play is TWWH and that Game provides 80 to 90% scaling. I have actually made it so that just about every Game that supports Crossfire is in my library as well. Outside of that is that I have always run Crossfire setups anyway.

Then you really do not have a leg to stand on when I say what I say.
It is far better than ever expected on EVERY level! IMHO this pair up could ONLY get better if they did a TUF RAM version and PSU. That would be so cool and a M.2 SSD TUF version! I would get one for sure!

Just because they share the same nomenclature does not mean that you will see an improvement in performance, if measured against anything else of comparable quality or feature. A TUF SSD would be no faster than the SSD from the manufacturer Asus bought it from.

 

[trickson]

Just because they share the same nomenclature does not mean that you will see an improvement in performance, if measured against anything else of comparable quality or feature. A TUF SSD would be no faster than the SSD from the manufacturer Asus bought it from.

Yeah because all Motherboards are tested and certified like this right?

This has a lot to do with the way it operates as well. It's the attention to detail and the way Asus went above and beyond!
Wonder if MSI does this? NOPE still did not get this with ANY other MB or video card just this one...

 

[FireFox]

Just because they share the same nomenclature does not mean that you will see an improvement in performance

I bet he knows that very well, if he is happy with his paired Motherboard + GPU i am happy for him.

This is the reason why he is so excited:

This is the best MB and video card that I have ever had so far

 

[HammerON]

Alright folks. Enough of the discussion. Please stay on topic.

 

[trickson]

SSD on it's way.

I have one more on it's way just 2 days to go!!