Where Are The Numeric Scores

[Joss]

Am I dreaming or the numeric scores disappeared from all reviews on TPU's database?
I know there's a poll (where keep the scores wins) but I didn't hear a decision had been made, let alone something as dramatic as this.

 

[sneekypeet]

Am I dreaming or the numeric scores disappeared from all reviews on TPU's database?
I know there's a poll (where keep the scores wins) but I didn't hear a decision had been made, let alone something as dramatic as this.

Pretty sure there is a post where W1zzard said he was leaning to their removal.

 

[W1zzard]

Removed, you're the first to ask, so seems all good

 

[Joss]

All is not good.
1 You didn't announce the decision, your readers deserve a satisfaction particularly when you went against their opinion (the poll).
2 By altering the whole database you altered the site's history, changed its face. A web page should be available as it was created at the time, either rightly or wrongly, and not only in Wayback Machine. A site's past doesn't belong exclusively to its legal owner; we have enough Stalinist crap from the likes of Google.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

All is not good.
1 You didn't announce the decision, your readers deserve a satisfaction particularly when you went against their opinion (the poll).
2 By altering the whole database you altered the site's history, changed its face. A web page should be available as it was created at the time, either rightly or wrongly, and not only in Wayback Machine. A site's past doesn't belong exclusively to its legal owner; we have enough Stalinist crap from the likes of Google.

He didn't announce it but he made a thread about it and it was debated with the rest of the forum members with the general consensus being "just do it"

 

[rtwjunkie]

A site's past doesn't belong exclusively to its legal owner; we have enough Stalinist crap from the likes of Google.

Stalinist? This is pure capitalism, bud. And guess who the sole owner of the site and all materials stored from the past? W1zzard, who you just demanded to do something.

He makes money from the site and doesn’t charge you anything to participate here and demand things like the self-entitled tend to do these days.

 

[Frick]

2 By altering the whole database you altered the site's history, changed its face. A web page should be available as it was created at the time, either rightly or wrongly, and not only in Wayback Machine. A site's past doesn't belong exclusively to its legal owner; we have enough Stalinist crap from the likes of Google.

I actually kinda agree with this, at least for the content (design can and should change).

Keeping the score for the old reviews and simply not using them going forward would have been better IMO.

Stalinist? This is pure capitalism, bud. And guess who the sole owner of the site and all materials stored from the past? W1zzard, who you just demanded to do something.

Technically this is obviously correct, but the nature of the internet should make it a perfect cache of history (I really don't know how to put it). Put something on the web and it's there for all to see, deed's done, no takebacks and so on. In a way this is a revisionists move, like the people who say/do something dumb and then try to erase all traces of it, but way less serious of course. Editing the past just feels fundamentally wrong.

I really don't see how it would have made things worse by making an announcement and include a link to that announcement in the Conclusion page in future reviews.

In the end I don't care though; the scores were crazy arbitrary and getting rid of them was a good idea I think.

 

[qubit]

Removed, you're the first to ask, so seems all good

I'd noticed as well and I must say I prefer it with the number ratings, as I previously explained in the thread you started about this.

There could be a lot of people noticing it and not liking it. Just because you don't hear about it, doesn't mean it can be assumed to be ok.

 

[rtwjunkie]

@Frick you might have a partial point there. I didn’t realize all the old reviews also had the numbers removed. I thought it was just the one I saw the other day as the first one.

I still say tho that W1z doesn’t owe us to do it the way we voted. It’s his site.

 

[EarthDog]

The history of scores was taken away???

I voted/suggested getting rid of score in the thread (and been barking about it on/off for years). Never would I have thought that the previous scores would be gone with them though. I'm glad the arbitrary value (because let's be honest, that is what it is) has been discontinued but to remove them off past reviews as well as seemingly not sharing with the readers the decision is disappointing. Sure, I get forums are not a democracy, but sharing the decision with the readers I think would have been beneficial.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Well I don't mind, It's up to W1zzard after all.

 

[qubit]

The history of scores was taken away???

I voted/suggested getting rid of score in the thread (and been barking about it on/off for years). Never would I have thought that the previous scores would be gone with them though. I'm glad the arbitrary value (because let's be honest, that is what it is) has been discontinued but to remove them off past reviews as well as seemingly not sharing with the readers the decision is disappointing. Sure, I get forums are not a democracy, but sharing the decision with the readers I think would have been beneficial.

It's more about it being appropriate and respectful to your members, especially as he'd started a thread on it.
Judging from his comment, I think he kept it quiet to judge the backlash, but that still doesn't justify it in my opinion.