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Where does the GTX 1070 Ti Fall

I disagree. basically any review online basically
That's what I thought.
For static images only, assuming that there isn't shimmering, AI glitching and that you still accept somewhat more blurry image than original, then yes. Motion, completely tanks DLSS quality, which is bad as we aren't playing minesweeper with it.
Incorrect, it's fine in motion, it doesn't tank at all.
It certainly doesn't beat old school supersampling
Never said it beats it, it can be used in conjunction with it to further increase results.

Again, if you own a card and want to join the discussion, be my guest, short of that, why would I take your word on any aspect of its quality? I can just play with it myself, compare it to native, FSR, DSR etc. I have no reason to believe you over my own eyes.
 
Hi,
Wondering which exact 1070ti now
Hope not a blower style :eek:
 
Hi,
Wondering which exact 1070ti now
Hope not a blower style :eek:
Literally said on page 2 where I quoted you, after I said you enjoy missing key details.

Also OP had already said earlier in the thread on page 1.
 
Incorrect, it's fine in motion, it doesn't tank at all.
It certainly does, watched kliksphillip analysis of DLSS. It still does.

Never said it beats it, it can be used in conjunction with it to further increase results.
Can you tell me exactly how it can further increase results over SSAA? It's just AI reconstructing low res image to your desired resolution good enough. It can try aiming higher, but at that point you will notice more artifacts and some patches of image won't be properly upscaled. It's just a mess, when taken to extremes. On the other hand, SSAA is just cramming times higher resolution into your lower resolution screen. It doesn't guess anything, it knowns everything. As long as you have fast enough hardware for it, there's no reason why it could be improved further with DLSS.

Take a look at SSAA yourself:


Again, if you own a card and want to join the discussion, be my guest, short of that, why would I take your word on any aspect of its quality? I can just play with it myself, compare it to native, FSR, DSR etc. I have no reason to believe you over my own eyes.
You have never even tried SSAA, did you?
 
The consideration is that 1070 Ti uses an outdated architecture which has fallen behind in API compliance, consumes significantly more energy/generates a lot more heat, has a poorer video encoding engine, no av1 decoding support, it goes on and on... it is also a 6 year old GPU at this point at a minimum, so even if it is a bit faster than an RTX 3050, or costs a little less, I would just buy the 3050 new instead. Pascal (and Maxwell) are also late in their driver support lifecycle, so as time goes on, these will stop receiving updates just as Kepler recently did.

The 3050 will do DLSS and DLDSR, includes state of the art NVDEC/NVENC with AV1 decode and the best encode around, uses less power, has DirectX 12 Ultimate support, tensor and RT cores for you to play around with the tech, HDMI 2.1 support (high color and refresh rates!) etc. - I personally think it is just a significantly better buy nowadays.

I'd still pick up a 1070 Ti for reasonably cheap though, but if they were within $125 of each other I would not even look at the 1070. $75 for the features and an extra $50 for peace of mind and warranty from buying a BNIB GPU that will receive driver updates for at least the next 6 years (assuming NVIDIA honors their 8-year lifecycle promise).
 
It certainly does, watched kliksphillip analysis of DLSS. It still does.
Oh man, I spose I should just take your word for it then over what I can see when I use it then.
Can you tell me exactly how it can further increase results over SSAA?
That's not what I said, I said supersampling (like DSR and DLDSR) plus DLSS can improve results over native rendering or dlss Upscaling to native.
You have never even tried SSAA, did you?
You have never even tried DLSS, did you?

I don't require or desire your hot take and parroting videos or articles of your choosing, I'll just go actually use it and see the results for myself. So if that's what you intend to keep doing, I wouldn't bother. I'm happy to just drop it here too, if we apparently have nothing to gain from discussing it.
 
Let's get back on topic and leave the " I know better than you " attitude out ;)
 
Guys I'll say it again. This is not a GPU recommendation thread. It was to get an idea of the performance of a particular GPU. That has since been answered so no further responses are necessary.
 
Hi,
Has it been added to cart yet :cool:
 
Hi,
Has it been added to cart yet :cool:

Have you the card? How terribly uninteresting, for your sake... I'll assume that you have the card. :D

Yeah, the OP mentioned that he took the info he needed to hear, multiple times in fact. Don't want to mini-mod but, I think the thread is sort of done with.
 
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