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i am choosing between two chips that fit my current motherboard:

Intel Core™ i7-970 3.20GHz 12MB Gulftown 32nm B1 130W 4.8GT/s

or

Intel Core™ i7-975 3.33GHz 8MB Bloomfield 45nm D0 130W 6.4GT/s

Would a server running virtual machines benefit more from cache or GT/s ????
 

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Probably depends on your workload, but without further info I will take more cache.
 

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Probably depends on your workload, but without further info I will take more cache.

the work load would be mostly databases and perhaps a virtual minecraft server.

so 4 or 5 database servers, a mail,web server, minecraft server
 
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970 is 6-core, 975 is 4-Core, I'd go with the 970.
 

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agree with newtekie, more cores = mo better for virtualization.

what kind of virtual server are you running? Citrix, vmware, hyperv?
 

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agree with newtekie, more cores = mo better for virtualization.

what kind of virtual server are you running? Citrix, vmware, hyperv?

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ah xen's twisted sister. lol Haven't played around with it much myself but it supposed to be pretty universal. It's also supposed to be pretty light. Not sure if its light enough to drop off 4 virtual cores/2 physical tho. I'd still go with the 970. In virtualization an extra 4 virtual cores goes a long way.
 

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ah xen's twisted sister. lol Haven't played around with it much myself but it supposed to be pretty universal. It's also supposed to be pretty light. Not sure if its light enough to drop off 4 virtual cores/2 physical tho. I'd still go with the 970. In virtualization an extra 4 virtual cores goes a long way.

libvirt is more than that. it is the foundation for every hypervisor out there but without the added overhead. using tools like virt-manager means that if you want to do the work yourself you can get an enterprise class virtual environment up for free. i mostly run KVM through it since most of the virtual machines are linux system. anyway, i suggest giving it a try.
 

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libvirt is more than that. It is the foundation for every hypervisor out there but without the added overhead. Using tools like virt-manager means that if you want to do the work yourself you can get an enterprise class virtual environment up for free. I mostly run kvm through it since most of the virtual machines are linux system. Anyway, i suggest giving it a try.

+1: Have a number of kvm vms at work and they work great. They run even better if the OS supports the virtio driver for the virtual hard drive.
 

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+1: Have a number of kvm vms at work and they work great. They run even better if the OS supports the virtio driver for the virtual hard drive.

yes, that makes a huge difference. the problem is for me though that to get any real performance out of my raid 5 array i have to setup caching and that crashes the server over time. i need a raid card!
 
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