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I do have a 240mm aio although it's the cheapest cooler master it does a good job with my ryzen 3600 at 4.3ghz on all cores and 1.200 volt and 2x Arctic P12 pwm fans (under 80c in aida64 cpu + fpu)

For some reason i do get the slightest hum (stille considered silent) i don't think is from my gpu but my aio

Im therefore considering an air cooler but which cooler

Noctua NH-D15 is hawing a slightly hum but can can be bought in a am4 version

Noctau NH-D15S doesn't come with am4 mounting brackets or weak hum

Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 (alternative to a NH-D15S) if i had to clean the tower it can be difficult to thake the fans of som say the pro4 is hard to mount

Deepcool Assassin III big and expensive and not better than a Noctua NH-D15

Than theres Scythe:

Mugen 5 PCGH I have had one it's very silent but might not cool as good in stress test,max load do to 800 rpm fan, the Scythe Kaze Flex are even better than the Arctic P12 fans, cheap.

Fuma 2 2x 1200rpm Kaze Flexz fans, more expensive than the Mugen 5 PCGH

Scythe Ninja 5 big and more expensive than the Mugen 5 PCGH and it comes with the same fan

Which scythe cooler is the best ?
 
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In my opinion you are downgrading your cooling, most air coolers are either going to be louder under load or perform worse. Are you sure the hum doesn't come from something else ?
 
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I am in a similar predicament, I am currently researching coolers for the 3700x for an upcoming build. Of the Scythe range, the Fuma 2 seems to be the best performer, but I prefer the look of the rgb version of the Mugen 5 rev. B as it has a black top plate, I would probably replace the fan, but the non-PCGH versions of the Mugen come with a single 1200 rpm Kaze Flex, in standard or rgb varieties, whilst the argb version comes with two fans that spin up to 1500 rpm. I am not sure how much better the Fuma 2 is compared to the Mugen, but I can't imagine there is a vast difference, in any event both are noted for their performance and near silent operation (the 1200 rpm versions of the Mugen). A friend is using the Dark Rock Pro on his 3600x and is very happy with the temps and noise levels, but from what I have gleaned from reviews, the Scythe coolers have little to envy their Be Quiet and Noctua counterparts and are cheaper.

This is the Mugen I am looking at:

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Edit: I think the NH-D15S now ships with the AM4 mounting brackets, in fact I think Noctua will provide them for most, if not all of their range.
 
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I don't know what you're on about non-AM4 compatibility; all 2019 or later D15 and D15S ship with AM4 brackets. And even if you had a pre-2019 product, you'd just email Noctua for a free bracket.

The A15 is a rather "hummy" fan. It is quite quiet, but you might not like the frequency of its hum.

As for the DRP4, there really isn't a quieter high end air cooler, period.

I have the Dark Rock Pro 4 and as long as you have tweezers and enough space in your case above and below the cooler (top of the board and towards the graphics card, respectively), the fans are a non-issue. In that sense, the DRP4 benefits a lot from a motherboard that has central socket placement, as opposed to some that push the socket up towards the top of the board; if the socket is placed too high, you will have trouble reaching the upper fan clips in cases tha don't afford much "headroom" at the top.

If you want affordable performance, the Fuma 2 pretty much delivers all the performance of the others at a much lower price. But no one comes close to Noctua's support and its Secufirm system, and the DRP4 is still the quietest. So it all depends on what you value most.

Honestly, I would stick with the AIO. Tune fan speeds to respond to your water temp or something, or put on a good set of headphones while you're in front of the computer. Anything else will be a downgrade.
 

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dark rock slim handles my 3700x at 4.3/1.2v with room to spare

briefly unplug the pump, to see if the hum goes away - i went back to air to avoid an annoying AIO noise as well
 
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In my opinion you are downgrading your cooling, most air coolers are either going to be louder under load or perform worse. Are you sure the hum doesn't come from something else ?

The other day i noticed som weak hum and think it's from my aio, im a silent frask and love my Arctic P12 and P14 2 P12 pwm and 5 P12 PWM silent at low rpm (3 p14 on one fan header)
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It's not that im unhappy with the performance form my aio, i just noticed a weak hum and since i can run my ryzen 3600 at 4.3ghz at 1.200 volt i thought about an air cooler to get it totally silent up to 65-70 c, gpu sapphire rx 5600 xt pulse non oced, fans never go higher than 30-35% on the stock fan curve

 
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I do have a 240mm aio although it's the cheapest cooler master it does a good job with my ryzen 3600 at 4.3ghz on all cores and 1.200 volt and 2x Arctic P12 pwm fans (under 80c in aida64 cpu + fpu)

For some reason i do get the slightest hum (stille considered silent) i don't think is from my gpu but my aio

Im therefore considering an air cooler but which cooler

Noctua NH-D15 is hawing a slightly hum but can can be bought in a am4 version

Noctau NH-D15S doesn't come with am4 mounting brackets or weak hum

Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 (alternative to a NH-D15S) if i had to clean the tower it can be difficult to thake the fans of som say the pro4 is hard to mount

Deepcool Assassin III big and expensive and not better than a Noctua NH-D15

Than theres Scythe:

Mugen 5 PCGH I have had one it's very silent but might not cool as good in stress test,max load do to 800 rpm fan, the Scythe Kaze Flex are even better than the Arctic P12 fans, cheap.

Fuma 2 2x 1200rpm Kaze Flexz fans, more expensive than the Mugen 5 PCGH

Scythe Ninja 5 big and more expensive than the Mugen 5 PCGH and it comes with the same fan

Which scythe cooler is the best ?
Make sure your hum is not pump noise.

The Fuma 2 is the best Scythe cooler and hard to beat for the MSRP price. I will say at top speed their fans can make a whine but I doubt you would approach top speed with your current specs. Why not just replace your current Artic fans? Two Noctua A12's would give you better performance, remain silent, and come at a similar cost as the Fuma 2 while allowing you to keep your AIO.
In my opinion you are downgrading your cooling, most air coolers are either going to be louder under load or perform worse. Are you sure the hum doesn't come from something else ?
the facts of fan noise does not seem to support your opinion on air vs AIO especially considering most air cooler fans run at lower RPM and top out at lower RPM then AIO coolers.

 
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I don't know what you're on about non-AM4 compatibility; all 2019 or later D15 and D15S ship with AM4 brackets. And even if you had a pre-2019 product, you'd just email Noctua for a free bracket.

The A15 is a rather "hummy" fan. It is quite quiet, but you might not like the frequency of its hum.

As for the DRP4, there really isn't a quieter high end air cooler, period.

I have the Dark Rock Pro 4 and as long as you have tweezers and enough space in your case above and below the cooler (top of the board and towards the graphics card, respectively), the fans are a non-issue. In that sense, the DRP4 benefits a lot from a motherboard that has central socket placement, as opposed to some that push the socket up towards the top of the board; if the socket is placed too high, you will have trouble reaching the upper fan clips in cases tha don't afford much "headroom" at the top.

If you want affordable performance, the Fuma 2 pretty much delivers all the performance of the others at a much lower price. But no one comes close to Noctua's support and its Secufirm system, and the DRP4 is still the quietest. So it all depends on what you value most.

Honestly, I would stick with the AIO. Tune fan speeds to respond to your water temp or something, or put on a good set of headphones while you're in front of the computer. Anything else will be a downgrade.
I have seen that 2019 noctua cpu coolers have have am4 bracket just don't know if it's comes with a am4 bracket cooler since they often don't say it comes with a am4 bracket, music in the background,windows open in chrome and aida64 cpu + fpu peaker at 76 c stays at 74-75c

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Im thinking of the Noctua NH-U14S or 15S
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What's the AIO position inside the case and are the tubes going down or up?
 
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Make sure your hum is not pump noise.

The Fuma 2 is the best Scythe cooler and hard to beat for the MSRP price. I will say at top speed their fans can make a whine but I doubt you would approach top speed with your current specs. Why not just replace your current Artic fans? Two Noctua A12's would give you better performance, remain silent, and come at a similar cost as the Fuma 2 while allowing you to keep your AIO.


the facts of fan noise does not seem to support your opinion on air vs AIO especially considering most air cooler fans run at lower RPM and top out at lower RPM then AIO coolers.

Fuma is only good at low wattage

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Noctua NF-A12x25 i think for the performance they are to expensive

What's the AIO position inside the case and are the tubes going down or up?
In the top of my case i think it's down
 
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Fuma is only good at low wattage
Not sure where you are coming up with that as TPU had good results with an OC 8700k. Other review web sites use OC CPUs in their reviews as well with very good results. That said the Noctua U14s is an excellent cooler.

 
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I can vouch for the ninja 5 it keeps my 3600@ 4.4ghz 1.26v at 72C on load during gaming tasks, the fans are the most quiet in my case
 
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Not sure where you are coming up with that as TPU had good results with an OC 8700k. Other review web sites use OC CPUs in their reviews as well with very good results. That said the Noctua U14s is an excellent cooler.

From the youtube review where it's good at 95 watt nr 2 after noctua but place 4 at 185watt

Im not saying 95 watt is low neither that is't high just that i might be better for an oced ryzen 3600 than a stock 12 core ryzen or oced 8 core ryzen

Dirtyferret look at the performance from the ninja 5 compared to fuma 2 99 vs 90%

Here it didn't perform so good https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/scythe-ninja-5-cpu-cooler,5939-2.html

I can vouch for the ninja 5 it keeps my 3600@ 4.4ghz 1.26v at 72C on load during gaming tasks, the fans are the most quiet in my case

I get around 51c when i game and my fans on my cpu cooler is at 800 rpm
 
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From the youtube review where it's good at 95 watt nr 2 after noctua but place 4 at 185watt

Im not saying 95 watt is low neither that is't high just that i might be better for an oced ryzen 3600 than a stock 12 core ryzen or oced 8 core ryzen

Dirtyferret look at the performance from the ninja 5 compared to fuma 2 99 vs 90%

Here it didn't perform so good https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/scythe-ninja-5-cpu-cooler,5939-2.html
I'm not saying you should get the Fuma 2 or that it's the best air cooler out there but you asked "Which scythe cooler is the best ? " and in my opinion it's the Fuma 2. That said there are many excellent coolers from from Noctua, Be Quiet, and others that I believe are better although are often more expensive. I personally prefer Noctua.

I'm not sure what you are getting at the tweaktown and tom's reviews. In the tweaktown review I only see the previous Fuma model (Rev.B) and it's separated from the Ninja 5 by 1c or less in most test. The toms review does not include the Fuma at all.
 
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well tweaktown rate the performance much high from the Ninja 5 than the Fuma 5
 
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I have seen that 2019 noctua cpu coolers have have am4 bracket just don't know if it's comes with a am4 bracket cooler since they often don't say it comes with a am4 bracket, music in the background,windows open in chrome and aida64 cpu + fpu peaker at 76 c stays at 74-75c
New Noctuas all come with AM4 brackets. If you have an older one, contact their client service and they will send an AM4 bracket for free.

Giving that you are upgrading from an already very decent AIO cooler, I would only consider the best/most expensive coolers, those with double 140mm fans (or 135mm for Be Quiet).

So you need a Noctua D15 or equivalent, but you really need to be sure that hum bothers you so much.
 
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how about freezer 34 duo
it's actually superb value for the money and one of the quietest

I'm thinking about swapping my d15s for the white one.like tabascosauuuzzz said,af15 does have an audible hum,especially at +1300 rpm.thinking two 120mm fans would be just more pleasant to listen to.
I changed my 2x140mm phanteks case intake ones to 3x120 alpenfohn and I prefer the 120s even at higher rpm vs 140 at lower.
quality 140mm fans move a lot of air.and I mean a lot.that's bound to produce a woosh.
 
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There is a danger of overthinking this, I know, because I do.

I think everybody has given sound advice up to this point, there is no perfect answer, but based on what I have read here, what I have deduced from numerous reviews and on my own experience with the NH-D14, I would break it down as follows:

You will be fine with either the Dark Rock 4, Freezer 34 Duo, Mugen 5 rev. B or U12S, which we can lump together in terms of performance, I would just pick the one I liked the look of most and probably be very happy.

Nobody can give you advice on the tone of the fans, that's too subjective, but given that your goal seems to be maintaining really low temps with the least possible noise, disregarding cost, I think that the Dark Rock Pro, Fuma 2, U14S, NH-D15 or NH-D15S would all amply serve your needs, again I would just pick the one I liked the look of best, that said, amongst these higher performers, I would personally pick the Fuma 2.
 
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If I was going with an AIO I would get the Eisbaer Aurora 240 and use your 2 Arctic Fans for push pull. If I was going air the new Scythe Mugen 5 is looking great based on reviews. The Noctua DH14 is nice and slim but deceptively huge. Having said that the TR4 version never out over 60C 1900, 1920, or 2920 on 4.0+ OC on all cores.
 
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I don't consider single fan air coolers unless it's something like a noctua NH-U14S og the NH-D15s version, i could go for a dual 120mm air cooler

But it only gives 1-3 c lower temps, here it's the Noctua NH-U14S



I would rather go for a single 140mm air cooler than a single 120mm cooler, 2x120mm over 1x 140mm depends on what it is

Reason for me consider an air cooler is i want 100% silent 60-70 c (something like a 140mm noctua, 120mm scythe kaze flex or be quiet at low rpm)

Im fine with under 80c in aida64 cpu/fpu
 
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Noctau NH-D15S doesn't come with am4 mounting brackets or weak hum
My NH-D15S certainly came with an AM4 bracket. As to the pitch of the fan hum, it's very subjective. I can't really distinguish it from my Be Quiet Silent Wings 3 140mm case fans.
 
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Its the DH U14S Not the NH-D14

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Im not going for super low temps i just want it low in prime 95 small fft, aida64 cpu/fpu, i can do that with a an aio for less than 75 euros with different fans.
 
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Its the DH U14S Not the NH-D14

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Im not going for super low temps i just want it low in prime 95 small fft, aida64 cpu/fpu, i can do that with a an aio for less than 75 euros with different fans.
I meant that my experience of the NH-D14 to an extent allows me to recommend the U14S, D15 or D15S without fear of giving bad advice.

Fast-forward to 22:40, he is reviewing the Fuma 2 on a 3800x, it seems legit to me:


 
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