Which cooler for ryzen

[CiroConsentino]

After searching for videos and stuff, I think I'll stick with the blob in the middle method. 5 dots or X method ad too much paste.

 

[Caring1]

After searching for videos and stuff, I think I'll stick with the blob in the middle method. 5 dots or X method ad too much paste.

Placing a circle in a square either leaves the corners untouched, or the thermal paste overflowing over the sides of the die if enough to cover it.

 

[CiroConsentino]

Ok, X method it is. I've seen in videos the X method covering the most of the chip, but I still think is too much paste.
I've even seen I guy suggesting 3 dots in a video. Top at the top and one in the middle.

On another note, I still have half a siringe of "Arctic Silver 5" paste I bought in 2012. I wonder if it's still usable and if there's a way to find that out.

 

[xman2007]

A pea sized amount in the middle of the IHS is completely adequate unless you have major OCD and think that by placing 5 dots, 1 in each corner and a dot in the middle, spreading it out meticulously with a spatula whilst praying to the gods of DIY PC builders that your application doesn't explode your CPU and burn your house down at the same time

Ok, X method it is. I've seen in videos the X method covering the most of the chip, but I still think is too much paste.
I've even seen I guy suggesting 3 dots in a video. Top at the top and one in the middle.

On another note, I still have half a siringe of "Arctic Silver 5" paste I bought in 2012. I wonder if it's still usable and if there's a way to find that out.

There's a way.... use it oh and I'm betting it's still just fine today to use for everyday as it was when you bought it, go figure

 

[CiroConsentino]

Thanks. I haven't received the parts yet: mobo ASUS TUF B550-Plus, Ryzen 7 3700X, Scythe Mugen 5 TUF cooler. Tomorrow maybe... c'mon UPS!
If the temps don't go over 78 celcius and there's no clock throttle, I'm fine with the center pea sized method.

I watched a video a few months ago showing how you could find out of a 10 years old thermal paste is still good or not. I wonder what kind of paste Scythe Mungen 5 TUF comes bundled with.

 

[RealNeil]

Liquid metal is pretty meh unless it's used on delidded CPUs

My experiences say the same. Liquid metal is conductive and will burn-up components that it shouldn't touch. It's also runny, and when your board is sitting upright, it may move around unless it's put on perfectly.
Its heat transfer is wonderful.

Thermal Grizzly paste (with its spreader) is a good choice.

 

[CiroConsentino]

Got the parts today. I applied the center pea size pastebut I think it was a little bit too much. After installing the cooler a very small ammount of the paste leaked in one of the sides of the CPU, but it didn't touched the CPU socket. I'm still good right?
I haven't finished mounting...

 

[moproblems99]

NO if you want an aio for an 8 core ryzen you must buy a minimum 240mm aio

I have a 120mm aio cooler on a 3700x in a mitx and it seems more than capable. It beats hell out of the wraith prism and 212.

 

[mtcn77]

I have a 120mm aio cooler on a 3700x in a mitx and it seems more than capable. It beats hell out of the wraith prism and 212.

212 isn't too shabby. Cooler Master has poured some extra durability into that, even.

 

[CiroConsentino]

Turned it on, didn't explode. In BIOS, CPU temp is a steady 42 celcius. Weird, I got 3200MHz RAMs but thr BIOS is showing 2666MHz.

 

[Mr McC]

Turned it on, didn't explode. In BIOS, CPU temp is a steady 42 celcius. Weird, I got 3200MHz RAMs but thr BIOS is showing 2666MHz.

You have to enable XMP (DOCP) in the bios, or manually set the RAM to the 3200 Mhz speed and timings.

 

[CiroConsentino]

Just tested Metro Exodus at 2560x1440 with RTX and DLSS enabled today for about 2 hours. CPU never went above 56 degrees Celcius and GPU at 62 degrees Celcius (room temperature 23 degrees Celcius). CPU frequency reached 4300 MHz, but it was mostly at 4250 MHz. I think my temps are good

 

[CiroConsentino]

I forgot to mention, I'm using latest Win10 build with Windows High Performance power plan. On idle, CPU clock is around 4200MHz but CPU voltage is always below 1.0v between 0.500v and 0.900v (according to CPU-Z).
Should I really be using Balanced power plan? Won't it hurt gaming performance? My primary use for this rig is gaming.

 

[hdtvguy]

Been very happy with my 3900X with the NH-d15, although you MIGHT want to go for the NH-D15s as it allows more space from cooler and GPU.

Room temp being around 30-33c this time of year and using Cinebench on a loop(6) manages to get the CPU 76c, this is all core at 4200.

Proberly get a better response making your own thread.



II am waiting for the time they put so many leds on them they heat them up some haha, already happened with SSD's ( kingston ? ).

Darn, that is very good. I have 3900X and U14S with dual 120mm 1700rpm Redux fans full speed and under all cores load I get about 4.1ghz and with room at 25C the CPU gets to about 72-74C. I keep reading the U14S and D15 were about the same, but your story makes me wonder. I have tons of air flowing through the case, two 140mm intake two 140mm out as well as a 120mm.

 

[Deleted member 203344]

I use an AMD 3900x with a Deepcool Assassin 3 .. noctua version 2 paste .. and a phanteks p500a case .. temps in gaming high 50's to mid 60's ... room temperature at a constant 22C.
.... But i can tell you now the sum of all parts makes a huge difference to air cooling and temperatures as i spent several days testing different configurations.
I use 6 x phanteks phf140xp fans .. hard to get and very pricey as theyre no longer made .. and these are simply amazing as case fans in both airflow and low noise .. higher static fans are not better in this role and my testing did not support their use as they do not offer better performance on an airflow/noise metric.
The case has awesome unrestricted and predetermined airflow pathing so the best setup for me was 3 front fans as intake .. the top front fan as intake to supply cpu cooler with fresh cool air as well .. and the top rear and rear fans as exhaust .... resulting in an overall positive pressure scenario.
System is super quiet ... i can hear the evga ftw ultra 3080 (not super quiet but an awesome performer) over and above anything else whilst gaming but when not gaming the system is almost dead silent. Fans and cpu cooler have customised pwm performance curves.
You dont need an aio to effectively cool these cpu's but if you dont want to do heaps of homework and testing then sure go out and get an aio and call it a lazy day. I will never use water cooling as air cooling is completely risk free whereas the same can never be said of water cooling .. im sorry but thats just how it truly is.
If youre prepared to put in the work and understand how the sum of all parts plays a critical role in overall system temperatures, then by choosing the appropriate air cooling setup will serve you extremely well, and you will be rewarded with a quiet and cool gaming computer that will have the highest reliabilty possible with the all important peace of mind that comes with knowing your expensive hardware can never be nuked by catastrophic aio failure.

 

[freeagent]

I put a line down the center, plant the cooler down and give it a titty twister before I give it the clamps. Best to experiment for yourself..

 

[BoboOOZ]

Darn, that is very good. I have 3900X and U14S with dual 120mm 1700rpm Redux fans full speed and under all cores load I get about 4.1ghz and with room at 25C the CPU gets to about 72-74C. I keep reading the U14S and D15 were about the same, but your story makes me wonder. I have tons of air flowing through the case, two 140mm intake two 140mm out as well as a 120mm.

The U14S and the D15 are about the same in low to medium loads, in high thermal loads, the U14S will remain behind, being much smaller. That said, there might be other problems that you are seeing, case airflow or thermal interface problems lowering the efficiency of the cooler.

 

[hdtvguy]

After searching for videos and stuff, I think I'll stick with the blob in the middle method. 5 dots or X method ad too much paste.

There have been a few reviews posted that basically say there really is no such thing as too much paste. On my 3900X is placed dotes over each CCX and IO chipset, then small dots in center and out toward the corners and my thermals are great. All cores sustained $-$.1Ghz after 20 minutes CPU never goes over 72-73C using U14S with dual 1700rpm 120mm Redux fans.