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Which CPU platform is better for me i7 8700 vs 1700 for workstation and gaming?

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1) my work mostly related to web design, database and android studio (i heard Android Studio's emulator doesn't work with Ryzen is that true?? )

2) I want to play game on 1080p I also have GTX 1070

3)which is the best motherboard for i7 8700 and ryzen 1700

Plz tell me which is better
 
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1700 and B350 will be a lot cheaper considering both the CPU and mobo, 8700 will be faster but if you're gonna go this route I suggest the fully unlocked 8700K.

Simply put - if you got money for Z370 and 8700K then go for it, if not go Ryzen 1700 or even Ryzen 5 1600 + B350.

As for mobos, you should consider Z370 SLI Plus as the cheaper option, and Z370 Fatal1ty K6 as the best price/quality one.
 

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Well if money isn't an issue I went with that i7 (K).
 
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I also vote for the i7, 1700 would've been a good choice as it's cheaper but for 1080p gaming the i7 8700 is far superior if you would've played games at 1440p (at least) Ryzen would've been a good option
 
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I have both and i7 wins,but if u want price/performance ratio should go 1700/B350

W10 feels snappy and fast,gaming i7,grown gen platform,better memory
 
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1700+B350, save some money and use that for a nvmve drive.

I think Asrock X370 Taichi is the best board for Ryzen. I am pretty happy with the Asus B350 ROG.
 
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true for 1080p 144Hz, absolutely not true for 1080p 60Hz.
You may not see a difference at 60hz today but as games need more IPC down the road the difference at 140 can come down to 60hz.


 
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I did, you quoted my post. Did you not see who wrote it ?
exactly...the OP did not specify anything about the 60hz

Op I would say go for the Aorus Gaming 3 if there is not a big difference in price
 
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exactly...the OP did not specify anything about the 60hz

Op I would say go for the Aorus Gaming 3 if there is not a big difference in price
neither did he say anything about 144hz/200/240hz
 
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If it was me I’d go Ryzen 1700 and put the saved money elsewhere
 
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if you do any gaming at all 8700k is better, if you want a pure workstation, 1700 is way better.

This is my 1700 workstation, while crunching and doing db load, and massive excel sheets, and youtube music, uses the same amount of power as my 7820x at light browsing.

Never breaks 60C at 3.6ghz 1.1v

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money/performance you cant beat amd at workstation.
 
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if you do any gaming at all 8700k is better, if you want a pure workstation, 1700 is way better.

This is my 1700 workstation, while crunching and doing db load, and massive excel sheets, and youtube music, uses the same amount of power as my 7820x at light browsing.

Never breaks 60C at 3.6ghz 1.1v

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money/performance you cant beat amd at workstation.
I heard Android Studio's emulator on windows doesn't work with Ryzen only works on Linux is that true???
 
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It depends how much money are you willing to spend. i7 8700 will provide slightly better framerates in games, but that's negligible because primary factor will be GPU. As far as for the workstation, I would choose Ryzen 7 1700, because it's a lot cheaper and slightly faster in multi-threaded applications. So in my case Ryzen would be the winner.
 

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Intel Without question
 
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I would agree on the Taichi being one of the best. But I woudnt use a R7 on a B350, the current models VRMs look too weak.
Asus and asrock b350 brands have decent VRMs.
 
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if you do any gaming at all 8700k is better, if you want a pure workstation, 1700 is way better.
A few issues here! :-D
This is my 1700 workstation, while crunching and doing db load, and massive excel sheets, and youtube music, uses the same amount of power as my 7820x at light browsing.
7820X uses a lot of power, true. But that's not the CPU that OP is considering.

Also, since you're a data analyst, your workload will be significantly different to his (software development).
Never breaks 60C at 3.6ghz 1.1v
Which is just a pointless number. My kettle never breaks 100C, if that helps anyone. I've never broken 42*C - does it make me a better CPU?
And we don't even know it OP has any interest in OC or temp monitoring or whatever. If he simply wants to buy a CPU and forget about it, Intel gets bonus points for "just works" approach. AMD gets bonus points for "I like to run benchmarks every week to know if the weather affects my PC's cooling performance".
money/performance you cant beat amd at workstation.
Actually the price difference between 8700 and 1700 is just $40, which is hardly a lot, considering e.g. Intel will work with pretty much any RAM and you have to cherry-pick for AMD.
And if OP is not in a hurry, we'll soon see H370 mobos as well (by that time 8700 price should drop).
Both CPUs are just as fast in full core load, but Intel will gain A LOT when fed with single-threaded processes.
And yes: people have reported issues with Android Studio on Ryzen, so it's worth looking into.
 
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A few issues here! :-D

7820X uses a lot of power, true. But that's not the CPU that OP is considering.

Also, since you're a data analyst, your workload will be significantly different to his (software development).

Which is just a pointless number. My kettle never breaks 100C, if that helps anyone. I've never broken 42*C - does it make me a better CPU?
And we don't even know it OP has any interest in OC or temp monitoring or whatever. If he simply wants to buy a CPU and forget about it, Intel gets bonus points for "just works" approach. AMD gets bonus points for "I like to run benchmarks every week to know if the weather affects my PC's cooling performance".

Actually the price difference between 8700 and 1700 is just $40, which is hardly a lot, considering e.g. Intel will work with pretty much any RAM and you have to cherry-pick for AMD.
And if OP is not in a hurry, we'll soon see H370 mobos as well (by that time 8700 price should drop).
Both CPUs are just as fast in full core load, but Intel will gain A LOT when fed with single-threaded processes.
And yes: people have reported issues with Android Studio on Ryzen, so it's worth looking into.
The main issue here is that Android Studio requires intel virtualization tech (it's on their requirements) for hardware accelerated features to work. If that is a piece of software that he uses often then AMD is not even in the running.

The point of the temp comment was to show that under the stock cooler, the chip runs cool enough to sustain a 24/7 OC without any issues. Which is $ saved at the end of the day.