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Just because it isn't listed as a supported chip doesn't mean it won't work. Those supprted lists aren't updated on a regular basis.


Let me know when insulting people actually gets you somewhere.

Ok, Abit boards are the one exception, sorry forgot to mention that. But AFAIK, no other 680i board support 45nm quads.

And we aren't talking about simply not updating the list, if you read you'll see the list specifically says they aren't supported, I even put that part in bold for you. His board will not support a 45nm quad, end of discussion.

Yes, it really pisses me off when someone give inaccurate advice that might lead to someone wasting large sums of money. I know it doesn't matter to you, since mommy and daddy probably pay for everything for you and you have not concept of money, but for some of us $500 is a lot to waste away. One would think that if you are going to give advice when large sums of money are involved, you would make sure you actually know what you are talking about, and the fact that you are "correcting" someone else would mean you should really really really make sure...

If you don't want to be insulted, don't insult others. It is insulting to "correct" someone by posting inaccurate information.

Now we are done, I'm not arguing with you anymore. His board doesn't support the processor, discussion over.
 
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Q6600 @ 3.5 > qx9650 @ 3.0

If I were you, I'd just get an E0 Q9550 and OC that

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the 3.5 Q6600 would be faster then a stock QX9650.

The QX9650 will run a lot cooler being a 45nm chip vs the Q6600 which is a 65nm.

Also for 500 dollars, your best investing that in a new board and an i7 setup instead of grabing a EE chip.
 

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I currently have a Q6600 which is overclocked at 3.50GHz @ 1750MHz and is Prime95 stable. But I'm starting to look at the QX9650 (the original CPU that I wanted to get but didn't have enough funds to get at the time) now that they're going for about $500 on eBay. But if I do get it, I won't be overclocking it at all or at least for a good while. So which CPU will run faster, my current Q6600 which is overclocked at 3.50GHz @ 1750MHz and has an 8MB cache or a stock QX9650 which is clocked at 3.00GHz @ 1333MHz and has a 12MB cache? I just want to know if it's worth getting the QX9650 in the long run.

I had the Q6600 and HAVE the Q9650 . Hands down the Q9650 is faster way faster ! Mine is running at 4.0GHz .
 
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Another this time with evga board.

And no I don't have the luxury of having someone pay for my parts hence my mid to low cost system. I had a $125 out of pocket cost out of my recent upgrade, I work on a budget I'm not some 16 year old sitting at home doing nothing all day but sitting and gaming. Actually working right now replying on my blackberry that guess what! I paid for and pay. For the plan monthly, bottom line insults don't get anyone anywhere
 

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I work on a budget I'm not some 16 year old sitting at home doing nothing all day but sitting and gaming.

I think your talking about me :p
 
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I think your talking about me :p

I'm not meaning to offend anyone with the statement if that's what you got out of it, it just annoys me when people take assumptions like that.
 

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I'm not meaning to offend anyone with the statement if that's what you got out of it, it just annoys me when people take assumptions like that.

I was joking about it don't worry.
 

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Just get the Q9650 and you will be more than happy !
 

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a CPU or a new system which will perform same or better ummm hard option that NOT.... i7 FTW.

And lets face it you could sell of your older system too and lets face it it's going be totally sweet then as you will have cash in ya pocket too :)..
 
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Just get the Q9650 and you will be more than happy !

If the only difference between the QX9650 and the Q9650 is the "X" and the unlocked multiplier, then I'd just go for that rather than build another rig. I can get a brand new retail Q9650 for $375 CAD, I think that's way better than spending $500 USD on an i7, new mobo and RAM.
 
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a CPU or a new system which will perform same or better ummm hard option that NOT.... i7 FTW.

And lets face it you could sell of your older system too and lets face it it's going be totally sweet then as you will have cash in ya pocket too :)..

I was considering that, but for the new rig, I would be spending more than what I could ever get back from selling my current rig. For the components that I truly want to get I mean.
 
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Another this time with evga board.

And no I don't have the luxury of having someone pay for my parts hence my mid to low cost system. I had a $125 out of pocket cost out of my recent upgrade, I work on a budget I'm not some 16 year old sitting at home doing nothing all day but sitting and gaming. Actually working right now replying on my blackberry that guess what! I paid for and pay. For the plan monthly, bottom line insults don't get anyone anywhere

Do you know if the Q9650 is compatible with rev A1 of my motherboard? Also, do you know what BIOS version that person has? Because I just re-flashed my BIOS back to P32 after getting so much random BSOD's from the P33 update.
 

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a CPU or a new system which will perform same or better ummm hard option that NOT.... i7 FTW.

And lets face it you could sell of your older system too and lets face it it's going be totally sweet then as you will have cash in ya pocket too :)..

Yes but the i7 and the Q9650 are very very close in performance .
Hard to beat a Q9650 for the price .
 
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uhhh watch the triple post OP o_O

Anyways, if you have or get a job at wal-mart , futureshop Bestbuy or some other known stores selling comps, you can get an i7 for 129$ here :http://retailedge.intel.com/

then you get a used ECS x58 for 150$ or new after MIR at 170$... Then 6gb of RAM at 78$

With the NEW board, you'd pay 375$ :) You can sell yours for that price especially in Canada I suppose? so a free upgrade to i7 :D
 
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Do you know if the Q9650 is compatible with rev A1 of my motherboard? Also, do you know what BIOS version that person has? Because I just re-flashed my BIOS back to P32 after getting so much random BSOD's from the P33 update.

Thread I pulled it from was from a P31 bios, but I believe that the older boards have issues keeping it stable, the newer ones are just fine. Just from doing a little bit of research.
 

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I was considering that, but for the new rig, I would be spending more than what I could ever get back from selling my current rig. For the components that I truly want to get I mean.

And you going get back any thing from that chip ? or the other one ?..

Either way i'd even put the extra $150 if needed to have a better comp than just buy a single chip any day + my wife would kill me on the spot....
 

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If the only difference between the QX9650 and the Q9650 is the "X" and the unlocked multiplier, then I'd just go for that rather than build another rig. I can get a brand new retail Q9650 for $375 CAD, I think that's way better than spending $500 USD on an i7, new mobo and RAM.

That is the only difference, thats why I said earlier just get the Q9650, save you a bunch of money and be a nice upgrade.
 

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oh come on guys, the motherboards page specifically states they DO NOT WORK.

Not an omission, where it may be outdated - it SAYS THEY WONT WORK.

Stick with the Q6600, unless you want a new mobo too.
 
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you have q6600 G0 so good cooling with better overclock is good solution , hit 4.0ghz with 9x multiplier or 3.6-3.8 using 8x multiplier
 
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Q6600 @ 3.5 > qx9650 @ 3.0

If I were you, I'd just get an E0 Q9550 and OC that

Yeah, I have one of those on the way to my house in the mail right now that I bought for $205 shipped, so is the QX9650 really worth $500?

Although the QX9650 is definately better than a Q9550..... you could get an i7 motherboard, and i7 920 for $500 on the used market easily. DDR3 could fit in that budget but just the cheap type.
 
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you have q6600 G0 so good cooling with better overclock is good solution , hit 4.0ghz with 9x multiplier or 3.6-3.8 using 8x multiplier

very, very few G0's hit 4GHz. and not many of those are stable on anything less than extreme water cooling.
 

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Yeah, I have one of those on the way to my house in the mail right now that I bought for $205 shipped, so is the QX9650 really worth $500?

Although the QX9650 is definately better than a Q9550..... you could get an i7 motherboard, and i7 920 for $500 on the used market easily. DDR3 could fit in that budget but just the cheap type.

They cheap crucials can hit 2ghz easily and don't even need heatsinks.
 

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Do you know if the Q9650 is compatible with rev A1 of my motherboard? Also, do you know what BIOS version that person has? Because I just re-flashed my BIOS back to P32 after getting so much random BSOD's from the P33 update.

The 680i chipsets had problems with compatibility with 45nm quads, sometimes they worked sometimes they didn't. Mainly it was due to the 1333FSB and the Quad-Cores overloading the chipset, the 680i had problems with overclocking 65nm quads as well for this same reason. It was really a 50/50 chance on if they would work with your board, which is why eVGA dropped support from the BIOS. Some manufacturers kepts support(Abit), most do not to avoid problems.

oh come on guys, the motherboards page specifically states they DO NOT WORK.

Not an omission, where it may be outdated - it SAYS THEY WONT WORK.

Stick with the Q6600, unless you want a new mobo too.

Exactly, and yet Kenshai wants to keep arguing that they do work to get this guy to waste $500. This leads me believe that he has no problem wasting others money, and probably still lives off mommy and daddy. Of course, the argument of "guess what, I pay for my own cellphone" doesn't really make him seem that mature. Seriously, thats all you can come up with, you pay for you own cellphone? How grown up of you...:laugh:

He was so proud of it too! Like a kid that had just paid for his first video game with his own money.:laugh: "I bought this game all on my own!" :laugh:
 
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The 680i chipsets had problems with compatibility with 45nm quads, sometimes they worked sometimes they didn't. Mainly it was due to the 1333FSB and the Quad-Cores overloading the chipset, the 680i had problems with overclocking 65nm quads as well for this same reason. It was really a 50/50 chance on if they would work with your board, which is why eVGA dropped support from the BIOS. Some manufacturers kepts support(Abit), most do not to avoid problems.

Yes I agree the 680i chipset is not some thing you want to runn a Quad on , that is if you are into over clocking . I had one and I had the Q6600 on it now I have a P5Q pro and well it ROCKS !!! Nvida chipsets are ok but for over clocking you can not beat the Intel chipset .
If you get the Q9650 and an Asus P5Q pro mobo you can easily hit 4.0GHz on it I did ! :rockout:
 
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