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You need just a small table and a chair, stop exaggerating.
Or you can open your mind. Some people need gaming portability like I used to when I was traveling all the time. You do not have the right to dictate to or belittle someone for their specific needs of a system.
 
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Some people, they're just stupid. This is bringing it to a whole new level.
 
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Telling him to get a desk when he wants a laptop.
 
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You do not have the right to dictate to or belittle someone for their specific needs of a system.
I just offered an advice, how's that belittle?
I just saw too many teens (my son's and my daughter friends) spending their money on gaming laptops only to use as desktops, and even then very hot. I saw them in houses without AC, in the summer, having their laptops shutting off. I see all of them using contraptions with fans under the bottom to cool them off.

A better use of their money, and better gaming experience, would be a desktop.

But hey, they can burn their parents money, if that's what they want.
 
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A better use of their money, and better gaming experience, would be a desktop.
Unless they need to be portable, then it is a perfect use of their money. Lugging around a desktop from place to place is not practical.
 
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I already own a Desktop but apart from Gaming i want something which i could carry everyday to my college thus wanted a good Laptop which atleast could play Games at satisfactory FPS.
I too agree that PC gaming is much more fun but i need a portable machine.
Thanks all for the advices.. appreciated:peace:
 
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My son too thought he needed a gaming laptop at college.
Ended up lugging a heavy laptop, lackluster performance in the first year. Only to buy a Dell Inspirion desktop (and an used monitor) in the second year, with a proper GPU (from another student that was graduating).
Again... don't know what conditions you have at college in India, but if you don't have AC, in Indian summer heat (do you have the school in summer months?), gaming on laptop will be... bad.
 
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I wouldn't recommend either, but if they are the only choice, go for the first one listed with the Ryzen Processor.
The second laptop you listed is an older gen version AMD Processor and will perform worse.
 
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The second laptop you listed is an older gen version AMD Processor and will perform worse.
The second one is a Ryzen 2500U paired with a Geforce 1050. It'll do fine.
 
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The second one is a Ryzen 2500U paired with a Geforce 1050. It'll do fine.
15W V's 35W.
I know which I would rather have in a laptop used for occasional gaming, and it wouldn't be the underpowered one.
The other matter is 1050 V's Radeon™ Vega 8 Graphics.
For basic gaming I'd still prefer the AMD system without a discrete GPU.
 
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15W V's 35W.
I know which I would rather have in a laptop used for occasional gaming, and it wouldn't be the underpowered one.
Wattage does not directly correlate to performance.
 
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Wattage does not directly correlate to performance.
Maybe so, but I haven't seen an Intel Atom powered netbook with a discrete GPU, or a Celeron, and I doubt there are any i3's in gaming laptops either.
Just my opinion but low power laptops (suffixed with a U) are not conducive to performance, if you want something faster and more capable, then it has to be a higher powered unit.
 
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Maybe so, but I haven't seen an Intel Atom powered netbook with a discrete GPU, or a Celeron, and I doubt there are any i3's in gaming laptops either.
You're comparing the Ryzen 2500U to an Atom? :wtf::kookoo::slap::laugh:
Just my opinion but low power laptops (suffixed with a U) are not conducive to performance, if you want something faster and more capable, then it has to be a higher powered unit.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...-5-2500U-vs-Intel-Atom-C2538/3403vs3123vs3252
You were saying?
 
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I'm pointing out a low powered CPU with a discrete GPU compared to a higher powered CPU with built in AMD graphics.
You were saying?
This is getting tedious having to explain to you all the time.
Let's review...
Actually I was pointing out when you said it had a 1050 it would do fine, that is ridiculous.
Yup, that's what you said...

Get your story and facts straight and quit trolling.

The first laptop has a stronger CPU and weaker GPU, the second has a stronger GPU and weaker CPU. For what the OP is going to be doing the second option is the more balanced performer and thus the better buy for the money.
 
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Whoaa, agreed thoroughly,
One thing i wanna add...I hav had my previous laptop which was an Asus ROG GL552JX rocking an i7 4720 n gtx 950M and i was happy with it too.It played CS GO,PUBG at mid settings and I had no problems with it. Thus i wanted to stick to Asus products only!
The thing is ... Asus doesn't make any laptops. If the laptop you bought with an Asus Logo, that laptop which apparently worked out well for you may have been made by Foxconn... the one you buy this year may be made by Pegatron or Wistron. Like PSUs, laptop makers may have a model series made by one OEM and the next year switch to someone who offers to make it cheaper. The only two manufacturer's I am aware of who actually "make" the products bearing their name are MSI and Clevo ... and Clevo also sells under the Sager brand.

And fellas we need to stop talking about outdated concepts ...

1. GPUs, especially the nVidia ones, have gotten much more efficient of late
2. The difference in performance of desktop and laptop GPUs has dwindled massively
3. Properly designed gaming laptops exist ... problem is folks walking into a big box store and insisting on a gaming laptop that's under 5 pounds, has an 8 hour battery life and costs $500. Peformance laptops are readily available for years.

Note how the GPUs stack up these days (performance is 3D mark Ice Storm / Cloudgate / Firestrike:

No. 3 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (Desktop) = 436117 / 143576 / 27620
No. 5 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (Laptop) = 439340 (101%) / 134430 (94%) / 25440 (92%) ... on average the mobile GPU is 96% as fast as the desktop.
No. 6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Laptop Max-Q) = 444648 / 113870 / 20289

While in the old days, laptop GPU performance was limited by putting large power consuming GPUs in a tight space, this limitation no longer exists in today's world ... As the saying goes ... "the reports regarding the poor performance of modern mobile GPUs has been grossly exaggerated"

Considering your budget limitations and desire to move now, I would go no lower than a 1050 Ti and then i would expect some level of disappointment.
 
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Yup, that's what you said...
Get your story and facts straight and quit trolling.
Seems the only one trolling here is you, making invalid nonsense arguments to bait me.
When what I am saying is quite clear to even the simplest of minds.
Clearly that is your style, call anyone that disagrees with you a troll, without basis.
 
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I hate to say this but @QARTS ; this is precisely the laptop range you want to avoid.

'Gaming' laptops at a very low cost and low wattage parts under the hood. You will have a hot, loud and underperforming lump of plastic on your lap with both options. Been there done that. This is the dreaded midrange of 'just not it' in every facet and use case. The best use is mild use, which is not what you'll be using it for. Throttling is the name of the game here, and a constant battle to keep temperature acceptable. In all likelihood this won't be a pleasant laptop to use.

The life expectancy of this sort of laptop is also very low, give it two years and it will start showing problems, possibly earlier if you're not too careful with it and keep it clean of dust.

With gaming laptops you have two options.
Go big, or go home.

That translates to get a fat and true gaming laptop with decent cooling and at least a 1060 or better, or get a thin and light with decent CPU and connect it to additional hardware such as eGPU at home. Doing something in between means it won't do well in anything.

The thing is ... Asus doesn't make any laptops. If the laptop you bought with an Asus Logo, that laptop which apparently worked out well for you may have been made by Foxconn... the one you buy this year may be made by Pegatron or Wistron. Like PSUs, laptop makers may have a model series made by one OEM and the next year switch to someone who offers to make it cheaper. The only two manufacturer's I am aware of who actually "make" the products bearing their name are MSI and Clevo ... and Clevo also sells under the Sager brand.

And fellas we need to stop talking about outdated concepts ...

1. GPUs, especially the nVidia ones, have gotten much more efficient of late
2. The difference in performance of desktop and laptop GPUs has dwindled massively
3. Properly designed gaming laptops exist ... problem is folks walking into a big box store and insisting on a gaming laptop that's under 5 pounds, has an 8 hour battery life and costs $500. Peformance laptops are readily available for years.

Note how the GPUs stack up these days (performance is 3D mark Ice Storm / Cloudgate / Firestrike:

No. 3 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (Desktop) = 436117 / 143576 / 27620
No. 5 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 (Laptop) = 439340 (101%) / 134430 (94%) / 25440 (92%) ... on average the mobile GPU is 96% as fast as the desktop.
No. 6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Laptop Max-Q) = 444648 / 113870 / 20289

While in the old days, laptop GPU performance was limited by putting large power consuming GPUs in a tight space, this limitation no longer exists in today's world ... As the saying goes ... "the reports regarding the poor performance of modern mobile GPUs has been grossly exaggerated"

Considering your budget limitations and desire to move now, I would go no lower than a 1050 Ti and then i would expect some level of disappointment.
Spot on. But I will add it was never really a problem of poor mobile GPU performance, but rather abysmal cooling systems in this range. The limitation of those GPUs was essentially power budget, not capability (or die size).

Personally I'd suggest looking at MSI and Clevo barebone options and put them next to what you've been looking at up till now, minimum specced at full-fat Quad core (either Intel or Ryzen) with HT if budget allows, plus indeed something along the 1050ti ~ 1060 ~ RX480 performance level of GPUs (strong Nvidia preference because better perf/watt here). Barebone is nice because you get a lot of freedom in components, too and you can do things like 'make my drive cage an SSD cage' and get an optimized 2x4GB or 2x8GB DDR4 instead of single-channel like you see with OEM products. Its a lot of essentially 'free' performance there. Consider if the price premium for such a build is worth it, but I'd certainly recommend spending a little extra for that option. This also provides a laptop that is much easier to repair and upgrade with no funny tape/glue business and dozens of weird screw heads to challenge you.

I've had one built through BTO.com a few years back, and it offered the best bang/buck at the price; just under 1K EUR I had a GTX 950M + 500GB SSD + Intel i5 Skylake quadcore (a real one sans HT). If I had picked OEM, I'd have paid the same for a GTX 950M + SSHD 250GB + Intel i7 dualcore... And on top of that, the BTO laptop came with a perfectly calibrated IPS panel that can get nice and bright and is fully legible in direct sunlight, versus glossy TN junk on the OEM side.

Maybe so, but I haven't seen an Intel Atom powered netbook with a discrete GPU, or a Celeron, and I doubt there are any i3's in gaming laptops either.
Just my opinion but low power laptops (suffixed with a U) are not conducive to performance, if you want something faster and more capable, then it has to be a higher powered unit.
Low wattage CPUs are only any good for simple office/browsing tasks and some work in the cloud. Not for gaming, they will always fall short, though with a weak GPU that problem tends to remain invisible. I have no experience with Ryzen's U-line though, but for Intel... slow as molasses because they can't turbo all the time. That has not changed over the last decade either, while GPU did become faster at the same power budget. Buyer beware...

I just saw too many teens (my son's and my daughter friends) spending their money on gaming laptops only to use as desktops, and even then very hot.
Exactly. Anyone who has used these laptops for fulltime gaming knows what's up, and knows not to go there again. To think new gen of GPU changes that is wishful thinking. Maybe next one? Maybe...
 
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batteries only have so much power.. folks on here would say for decent desktop gaming machine buy a 600 watt psu..

translate 600 watts to a laptop batteries abilities and see what you get.. not a lot without being plugged into the mains and having to be plugged into the mains aint exactly portable..

so called gaming laptops dont really have a lot going for them.. an intel cpu and a 1050ti is about as high as i would go.. someone said power usage dosnt directly relate to performance but when running on battery power it certainly does..

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Exactly. Anyone who has used these laptops for fulltime gaming knows what's up, and knows not to go there again.
Rubbish. Back when traveling(a lot), I needed a platform that I could game on and have decent performance. A gaming focused laptop hit the spot nicely. Granted, I spent the money for an Alienware 18" model, but that's not the point. It did what I needed it to; gaming on the go. I would happily get a newer model if my career required traveling a lot again.
so called gaming laptops dont really have a lot going for them.. an intel cpu and a 1050ti is about as high as i would go.. someone said power usage dosnt directly relate to performance but when running on battery power it certainly does..
Not when you're plugged into the wall.

The OP asked us for opinion on which of the models he selected was the better opinion. They did not ask for opinion on whether having a gaming laptop was a good idea, something that is up to them, not us.
 
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Rubbish. Back when traveling(a lot), I needed a platform that I could game on and have decent performance. A gaming focused laptop hit the spot nicely. Granted, I spent the money for an Alienware 18" model, but that's not the point. It did what I needed it to; gaming on the go. I would happily get a newer model if my career required traveling a lot again.

Not when you're plugged into the wall.

The OP asked us for opinion on which of the models he selected was the better opinion. They did not ask for opinion on whether having a gaming laptop was a good idea, something that is up to them, not us.
I think what most of us are saying about gaming laptops is not that its impossible, but that its important to budget it right and that there are multiple caveats. If OP is fine with that I'm sure he can figure it out. Its about providing info (and advice) on a purchase, most of all. You've said it yourself, you spent some extra to get something decent - so that is certainly an important point. The models OP presented are méh at best, its only fair to highlight that. No single laptop with similar specs is actually the same...
 
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You've said it yourself, you spent some extra to get something decent.
To be fair, I spent a lot extra to get something premium. The OP doesn't have the option.
The models OP presented are méh at best, its only fair to highlight that.
While that's true, if someone is working within a limited budget, the options are going to be limited anyway. Neither of those laptops are outright crap. If treated well either one will provide an enjoyable experience as long as @QARTS keep things in perspective and appreciates what they buy.
 
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