Which generation is your Graphics Card?

[Strix_Gaming]

The first is my current setup. Processor and GPU are both overclocked by my hand. The processor also got a curve optimizer. Everything is stable and very fast.

1. Ryzen 7 5800x / Zotac RTX 4080 Trinity OC
2. Ryzen 7 5800x / Asus Strix RTX 3060 Ti OC 8GB
3. i7 4790K / Asus Strix RTX 3060 Ti OC 8GB
4. i7 4790K / Asus Strix GTX 1070 OC 8GB
5. i7 4790K / Asus Strix GTX 970 DirectCU II 4GB OC
6. i3 3220 / Asus GTX 750 Ti OC 2GB

 

[lexluthermiester]

just upgraded a gtx 1080 for an rtx 4070ti

That's a hell of an upgrade!

 

[ARF]

I think the wisest move today, taking into consideration the circulating rumour that AMD has terrible release schedule problems with the next-gen, is to buy the 20GB Radeon RX 7900 XT and settle with it until the same AMD releases something worth upgrading that card, something that's at least 70-80% faster in the most optimistic case (for users who like to upgrade more often), or better 150% faster in the less optimistic case (for users who want to save). It will be many years before either of these variants happen.

 

[tommo1982]

I'm using RX570 from Asus. Used, mining card which still runns

 

[mahirzukic2]

I upgraded recently from RX 580 to 6600 XT and I was wowed at how efficient this card is. I even undervolted it for even lower power consumption but same performance.
Max I have seen it in games is about 125-130W. I am very satisfied.

 

[TataMayor]

I upgraded recently from RX 580 to 6600 XT and I was wowed at how efficient this card is. I even undervolted it for even lower power consumption but same performance.
Max I have seen it in games is about 125-130W. I am very satisfied.

Assuming that the voltage where you live is 220 V, and the graph has an average consumption between 125 - 130 W.

• Current consumption (A) = Power (W) / Voltage (V)

• In this case, the equipment has a power of 130 W and a voltage of 220 V. Substituting these values in the formula:

• Power consumption (A) = 130 W / 220 V

• Dividing 130 by 220, you get the following result:

• Current consumption (A) = 0.59 A

• Therefore, the current consumption of this equipment is 0.59 amperes.

Not bad at all, the less current consumption, the better. This way, the lifetime of the graphic will be longer;

 

[JakoDel]

my HD 7950 (only for linux and macOS nowadays)+1070ti setup on a dual e5-2699v3 is filled with artifacts still going strong... heh I wish. the CPUs are still fine more or less, they are actually a lot of fun in some uses, but I'd love to buy a new gpu. the current prices are horrendous though.. the 3yo 6800 is sold for €100 less than MSRP here.

 

[frog877]

Hi guys I upgraded from a 3080 10gb(played Last of us before it got patched properly)to a 4070 ti, mostly for the 2gb of Vram and FG . I am playing games on a 2k resolution 240hz monitor and sometimes on 4k 120hz OLED Tv. I wanted to buy a 4080, but the price is too big ,compared to the last gen the increase in price is insane. So in the end I sold the old card for 500€ and got a the 4070ti for a good price, the upgrade costed around 200€ for a 20% more performance. DLSS 3.0 is great, would be great if AMD also launch FSR 3.0 and make it freeware like freesync. With mining gone , there is less demand , so prices should go down.

 

[xu^]

i went from a 1070 to a 3060ti end of last year, no plans to upgrade again for a while, especially at current pricing.
I dont tend to play the latest AAA games anyway.

 

[JakoDel]

Hi guys I upgraded from a 3080 10gb(played Last of us before it got patched properly)to a 4070 ti, mostly for the 2gb of Vram and FG . I am playing games on a 2k resolution 240hz monitor and sometimes on 4k 120hz OLED Tv. I wanted to buy a 4080, but the price is too big ,compared to the last gen the increase in price is insane. So in the end I sold the old card for 500€ and got a the 4070ti for a good price, the upgrade costed around 200€ for a 20% more performance. DLSS 3.0 is great, would be great if AMD also launch FSR 3.0 and make it freeware like freesync. With mining gone , there is less demand , so prices should go down.

Man why would you ever spend €700 on a crippled massively overpriced midrange card.. even calling it a good price seems a bad joke to me, but needless to say, you can do whatever you want with your money

 

[Mussels]

But i wanna vote so many more times!
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No AMD cards - they either sold off or died, over the years. Did have some RX400 and 500 cards for a few years there, they still work for the new owners.

Assuming that the voltage where you live is 220 V, and the graph has an average consumption between 125 - 130 W.

• Current consumption (A) = Power (W) / Voltage (V)

• In this case, the equipment has a power of 130 W and a voltage of 220 V. Substituting these values in the formula:

• Power consumption (A) = 130 W / 220 V

• Dividing 130 by 220, you get the following result:

• Current consumption (A) = 0.59 A

• Therefore, the current consumption of this equipment is 0.59 amperes.

Not bad at all, the less current consumption, the better. This way, the lifetime of the graphic will be longer;

That's not correct - no GPU runs at 220v

You can't do simple math like this with modern computer hardware because the voltages vary in real-time, hence using watts values.
And that's also around the 1.0 to 1.2v range these days, not 220v.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That's not correct - no GPU runs at 220v

They meant the mains power grid voltage. Some places in the world do run 220v.

 

[Mussels]

They meant the mains power grid voltage. Some places in the world do run 220v.

Wattage from the GPU with the voltage of the mains - that's not how it works.

 

[taka]

Watts are watts no matter the line voltage, just the AMP's are different.
Power=volt * amp
Plus you have to add PSU efficiency/loss.
For a 100W PC part and a 80% PSU this means you will draw from the wall 120W.
100*1.2=120 where 1.2=20% PSU loss in transformation of 220v to 12v. And not counting the GPU VRM.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Wattage from the GPU with the voltage of the mains - that's not how it works.

Um, yes it is. It's a very well known equation. Amps x Volts = Watts.

Watts are watts no matter the line voltage, just the AMP's are different.

Incorrect. See the comment above. Let's say it together folks:

Amps x Volts = Watts

This is how electricity works, how it's ALWAYS worked and will continue to work.

Granted, that's not the whole story. See the following.

So the comment made by TataMayor earlier is correct. They were not saying that the GPU is supplied with 220v directly. That doesn't and can't work. They are taking about the difference between power usage idle VS load, when measured at the wall socket(with a watt-meter of some type). This not only easy to measure, but then is also easy to calculate.

 

[taka]

@lexluthermiester

English is not my native language.

What i wanted to say is no matter now many times you downstep the voltage (ex: 220v to 12v and to 1v), a load of 100W will be the same all over the circuit. This is not taking count of the downstep loss and other transformation factors. It's the AMPS that are different at different voltages.

 

[lexluthermiester]

English is not my native language.

Fair enough. Wasn't trying to pick a fight or diss on you at all, only set some info straight.

 

[mahirzukic2]

Assuming that the voltage where you live is 220 V, and the graph has an average consumption between 125 - 130 W.

• Current consumption (A) = Power (W) / Voltage (V)

• In this case, the equipment has a power of 130 W and a voltage of 220 V. Substituting these values in the formula:

• Power consumption (A) = 130 W / 220 V

• Dividing 130 by 220, you get the following result:

• Current consumption (A) = 0.59 A

• Therefore, the current consumption of this equipment is 0.59 amperes.

Not bad at all, the less current consumption, the better. This way, the lifetime of the graphic will be longer;

No, it's not average, but rather maximum consumption. Average is like 100 - 110W. I was very shocked and had to rerun both the stress test in Adrenalin settings as well as in other benchmarks that I used. I really does run this low.
For example in the game I play the most (Path of Exile) which can be seen from the bellow screenshots the max consumption is 120W in DX11 and 113W in DX12.
You can see from the screenshot that the average consumption in DX11 is 95W.
I haven't properly reset the counter so the average for DX12 isn't shown correctly (max obviously isn't affected), but I expect it would be lower than DX11 which was the case for maximum, as well as it renders a lot less frames in general (158 vs 275).
And when the game in is background (not focused on it in Windows) it is limited to 30 FPS and does like 10 - 15W, crazy.

 

[gurusmi]

Lets see if the new Gen of AMD Graphic cards will be 2 slot high. If so i will think about a RX7800xt. Otherwise i will have to take an AMD RX 6950XT or RX6900XT for my new rig. All over i can build in a graphics card that has a maximum of 50mm. And there are 4 or 5 cards available all over. The original AMD RX6950XT, a Biostar RX6900XT and three intel Arc. All other offers are a NVidia 4060TI and below. Also there is no case available that suits an 420mm radiator on top, space for a 360mm Radiator at the side (Distroplate) and a >2 Slot vertical Graphics Card mount.

The Designers of graphic card coolers are sick with their graphics card height. I would habve to buy a card with a waterblock on top. But then they charge one like no good.

 

[mahirzukic2]

Lets see if the new Gen of AMD Graphic cards will be 2 slot high. If so i will think about a RX7800xt. Otherwise i will have to take an AMD RX 6950XT or RX6900XT for my new rig. All over i can build in a graphics card that has a maximum of 50mm. And there are 4 or 5 cards available all over. The original AMD RX6950XT, a Biostar RX6900XT and three intel Arc. All other offers are a NVidia 4060TI and below. Also there is no case available that suits an 420mm radiator on top, space for a 360mm Radiator at the side (Distroplate) and a >2 Slot vertical Graphics Card mount.

The Designers of graphic card coolers are sick with their graphics card height. I would habve to buy a card with a waterblock on top. But then they charge one like no good.

Instead of buying a watercooled GPU (which are truly expensive as hell), buy the cheapest possible model of the GPU you want, buy a byski block for it, rad, pump, hoses, fittings, do a little bit of DIY and can watercool a GPU for like 50 - 80$. Ali make sure to put thermal pads on the memory and some small copper heatsink and 1 or 2 120 or 140 mm fans top keep the memory chips cool as well.
All in all, about 100 bucks or euros worth of GPU watercooling and it won't be any worse than what you get with AIO of the shelf watercooled GPUs, maybe about couple of degrees C warmer, like 3 - 5°C warmer than AIO, but a lot cheaper.

Watts are watts no matter the line voltage, just the AMP's are different.

Exactly, all that matters.

 

[gurusmi]

Instead of buying a watercooled GPU (which are truly expensive as hell), buy the cheapest possible model of the GPU you want, buy a byski block for it, rad, pump, hoses, fittings, do a little bit of DIY and can watercool a GPU for like 50 - 80$. Ali make sure to put thermal pads on the memory and some small copper heatsink and 1 or 2 120 or 140 mm fans top keep the memory chips cool as well.
All in all, about 100 bucks or euros worth of GPU watercooling and it won't be any worse than what you get with AIO of the shelf watercooled GPUs, maybe about couple of degrees C warmer, like 3 - 5°C warmer than AIO, but a lot cheaper.

I have to say that i already have a full watercooling loop inside my new rig for cooling the CPU. But there i would want to have the graphics card integrated. Not only by the hardware but also by design. I calculate with EKWB hardware because as i have the loop mainly from EKWB. My 12 fans are Zalman and some electronic hubs are Alphacool. I would pay for the graphics card and all equipment I'm still in need totally 1.000€. An Intel Arc limited with air cooling would cost me 400€. But i like the idea with that AMD card. Only the case with the loop and the Mainboard already costs 3.000€. With that AMD RX6950XT i will pay around 5.500€. Of course i need a second radiator. The first one is "only" a 420mm 45mm height one. The second will be a 360mm 45mm heigt. If the loop would need the second radiator? Definitely nope. I could also use my 9* 140mm external Phobya radiator laying around at my home. But hey. It is cool to have a unknown case with two huge sized radiators inside and also a 360mm distroplate.

My build is getting more expensive and more expesive. I started with the idea to change my board and Processor. Getting an Asus Crosshair 570 Board and a 5950x CPU to replace my gigabyte board and the 3800X CPU mounted on. Now i'm far far away from that first idea. I'm so sick. I'm so addicted.

 

[BetrayerX]

6800 non XT here. Got it about 4-5 months ago when they 1st went under $500 (paid that including shipping at Newegg. For the MidRange branch, it was the best price/performance optionat that moment.

 

[mahirzukic2]

I have to say that i already have a full watercooling loop inside my new rig for cooling the CPU. But there i would want to have the graphics card integrated. Not only by the hardware but also by design. I calculate with EKWB hardware because as i have the loop mainly from EKWB. My 12 fans are Zalman and some electronic hubs are Alphacool. I would pay for the graphics card and all equipment I'm still in need totally 1.000€. An Intel Arc limited with air cooling would cost me 400€. But i like the idea with that AMD card. Only the case with the loop and the Mainboard already costs 3.000€. With that AMD RX6950XT i will pay around 5.500€. Of course i need a second radiator. The first one is "only" a 420mm 45mm height one. The second will be a 360mm 45mm heigt. If the loop would need the second radiator? Definitely nope. I could also use my 9* 140mm external Phobya radiator laying around at my home. But hey. It is cool to have a unknown case with two huge sized radiators inside and also a 360mm distroplate.

My build is getting more expensive and more expesive. I started with the idea to change my board and Processor. Getting an Asus Crosshair 570 Board and a 5950x CPU to replace my gigabyte board and the 3800X CPU mounted on. Now i'm far far away from that first idea. I'm so sick. I'm so addicted.

You need an intervention man.

 

[Mussels]

Um, yes it is. It's a very well known equation. Amps x Volts = Watts.

... no.
He's using MAINS voltage and then amps from the GPU reading - the GPU is not at that voltage.


You need to use volts and amps from ONE location - you can't mix and match

Aps and volts from the power cable to the PSU? You get system wattage
Amps and volts from the GPU? You get GPU wattage

Amps from the GPU and volts from the PSU power cable? You get confused.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You get confused.

You're right about that. I'm not understanding how you can get...

He's using MAINS voltage and then amps from the GPU reading - the GPU is not at that voltage.


You need to use volts and amps from ONE location - you can't mix and match

Aps and volts from the power cable to the PSU? You get system wattage
Amps and volts from the GPU? You get GPU wattage

Amps from the GPU and volts from the PSU power cable?

...THAT from...

Assuming that the voltage where you live is 220 V, and the graph has an average consumption between 125 - 130 W.

• Current consumption (A) = Power (W) / Voltage (V)

• In this case, the equipment has a power of 130 W and a voltage of 220 V. Substituting these values in the formula:

• Power consumption (A) = 130 W / 220 V

• Dividing 130 by 220, you get the following result:

• Current consumption (A) = 0.59 A

• Therefore, the current consumption of this equipment is 0.59 amperes.

...this.

But whatever. I digress..