Which is a better sound card?

[ohmystars80]

Which is a better sound card – Creative X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty or the new Recon3D Fatal1ty?
Someone told me the older Titanium card is a better card?
Is that true?

 

[Goodman]

Which is a better sound card – Creative X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty or the new Recon3D Fatal1ty?
Someone told me the older Titanium card is a better card?
Is that true?

What kind of speakers or sound system are you using or wanted to use with the sound card?

If you only using cheap speakers (price) I'll say don't bother & use the on-board sound which is pretty good now a days unless your doing some serious sound recording work or HTPC the on-board sound will do just fine

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I've read a fair bit about how the Sound Core3D compares to the X-Fi chipset in design and sound, and I would honestly steer clear of it.

The "quad core" moniker is no more than an embellishment, and in fact this design swaps hardware decoding for Digital Sound Processing. Unlike the X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty and Xonar Essence, it doesn't even have dedicated op-amps unless you step up to the $250 model.

That's why these cards, esp the base and mid models, are practically bare of components on the PCB, whereas decent cards are packed with them. They are merely relying on sound processing firmware programmed into the DSP for sound quality.

One review said the mid model doesn't sound better enough than the base model to be worth paying $50 more for, but the most telling review was on an AsRock MB comparing a Sound Core3D chip to a Realtek HD chip.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...srock-x79-extreme9-motherboard-review-17.html

My philosophy is onboard sound starting out, because it's all fairly high quality HD Audio now. Then once you can afford $150 or more, put it into a receiver, not a sound card. If you buy during the first few months after the Superbowl, you can commonly get $300 receivers for $150.

 

[eidairaman1]

Only other choice is HT Omega

 

[BumbleBee]

I like the Asus Xonar DG/X. it's only $25-30 and you get a lot. Cirrus Logic DAC, Cirrus Logic ADC, Creative DSP, JRC Headphone Amp, Dolby Headphone, GX2.5, digital out, multi-channel analog out.

the Xonar Unified Drivers are pretty nice and you can get them to work under Windows 8.

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/

I don't feel the more expensive sound cards are worth the money. some of the designs are really old and these companies don't revise or support them. you can get Onkyo receiver packages or DA converters and class a/b/t amplifiers for a couple hundred dollars.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Only other choice is HT Omega

This reminds me of another problem with most sound cards. Most cannot take the optical input from a TV and convert it to 5.1. The only one I know of that can is the HT Omega Claro, and they're not cheap. So if it's for multipurpose use that includes watching TV, keep that in mind.

 

[Phusius]

I like the Asus Xonar DG/X. it's only $25-30 and you get a lot. Cirrus Logic DAC, Cirrus Logic ADC, Creative DSP, JRC Headphone Amp, Dolby Headphone, GX2.5, digital out, multi-channel analog out.

the Xonar Unified Drivers are pretty nice and you can get them to work under Windows 8.

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/

I don't feel the more expensive sound cards are worth the money. some of the designs are really old and these companies don't revise or support them. you can get Onkyo receiver packages or DA converters and class a/b/t amplifiers for a couple hundred dollars.

The Xonar DG is great for the price. Got mine for $15, and wow... very impressive.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I'd say neither. Look for a deal on the Titanium HD. On the bay, a forum, newegg shell shocker. Got mine for $100 and recently did opamp upgrades on it. Never been more pleased with my sound.

 

[Jetster]

I like the Asus Xonar DG/X. it's only $25-30 and you get a lot. Cirrus Logic DAC, Cirrus Logic ADC, Creative DSP, JRC Headphone Amp, Dolby Headphone, GX2.5, digital out, multi-channel analog out.

the Xonar Unified Drivers are pretty nice and you can get them to work under Windows 8.

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/

I don't feel the more expensive sound cards are worth the money. some of the designs are really old and these companies don't revise or support them. you can get Onkyo receiver packages or DA converters and class a/b/t amplifiers for a couple hundred dollars.

I just ordered the Xonar DGX. So what the difference between the ASUS drivers the those you recommend

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_DGX/#download

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/

 

[eidairaman1]

I just ordered the Xonar DGX. So what the difference between the ASUS drivers the those you recommend

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_DGX/#download

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/

End User Fixes- the Person got tired of waiting for Asus to fix crap

http://brainbit.wordpress.com/category/uni-xonar/

both the drivers are 1807 betas

 

[BumbleBee]

a lot of people think they sound better. a lot of bugs have been fixed and improved across the board. check the changelog.

 

[eidairaman1]

a lot of people think they sound better. a lot of bugs have been fixed and improved across the board. check the changelog.

i can only guess the creator of those non OEM drivers did some major tweaks/ code changes.

hell id give then a whirl actually, just make sure before you install them to do a system restore backup.

 

[BumbleBee]

I wouldn't know. this is my sound card

 

[eidairaman1]

I wouldn't know. this is my sound card

http://i.imgur.com/Omqsb.jpg

what inputs/outputs that sucker got? I notice the Incoming sampling rate light too.

 

[OneMoar]

creative doesn't make quality ANYTHING anymore
if you want awesome sound you need to be looking at a xonar or a HT OMEGA
ffs creative just ... uninstall already
http://www.htomega.com/

 

[eidairaman1]

creative doesn't make quality hardware anymore
if you want awesome sound you need to be looking at a xonar or a HT OMEGA fk creative

the one thing they had going was EAX, MS borked it with Vista (D3D I think is dead too) and that applies today

 

[OneMoar]

the one thing they had going was EAX, MS borked it with Vista (D3D I think is dead too) and that applies today

I was not sad at all when Microsoft killed the propitiatory audio eax crap with the release of vista seriouslyu direct-sound NEEDED to die it was a pain in the ass for everybody and caused nothing but issues
/me silently waits for creative to go bankrupt

 

[BumbleBee]

what inputs/outputs that sucker got? I notice the Incoming sampling rate light too.

lots

unbalanced RCA out
balanced XLR out

coaxial out, toslink out

coaxial in, toslink in
coaxial in, toslink in
USB in

 

[eidairaman1]

I was not sad at all when Microsoft killed the propitiatory audio eax crap with the release of vista seriouslyu direct-sound NEEDED to die it was a pain in the ass for everybody and caused nothing but issues
/me silently waits for creative to go bankrupt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectSound#Windows_Vista.2FWindows_7

 

[OneMoar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectSound#Windows_Vista.2FWindows_7

and ?
old tech was old creative was warned several times by microsoft they didn't head the warning

/backontopic
if you are gonna spend money on a sound card
go all the way middle of the road cards are a complete waste of time
but if you have sub 100 dollar headphones/speakers. .. pfff don't bother

 

[eidairaman1]

lots

http://i.imgur.com/k2n2K.jpg

unbalanced RCA out (SPDIF)
balanced XLR out- Cannon Jack ( Professional Audio)

coaxial out, toslink out (SPDIF)(FiberOptic)

coaxial in, toslink in (SPDIF)(FiberOptic)
coaxial in, toslink in (SPDIF)(FiberOptic)
USB in

hmm no TRS 3.5mm(Common) or 6.35mm(Professional Audio) Jacks

and ?
old tech was old creative was warned several times by microsoft they didn't head the warning

/backontopic
if you are gonna spend money on a sound card
go all the way middle of the road cards are a complete waste of time
but if you have sub 100 dollar headphones/speakers. .. pfff don't bother

Listen I wasnt arguing or trying to argue with you. I was only providing info for everyone as to why this stuff was happening, so take a chill pill

 

[BumbleBee]

hmm no TRS 3.5mm(Common) or 6.35mm(Professional Audio) Jacks



Listen I wasnt arguing or trying to argue with you. I was only providing info for everyone as to why this stuff was happening.

it's a DA converter. it doesn't have an amplifier. that is what this 10lb monstrosity is for

http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_HA160.htm

 

[eidairaman1]

it's a DA converter. it doesn't have an amplifier. that is what this 10lb monstrosity is for

http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_HA160.htm

thats what id use for a Home THeater setup if the speakers had that style connection lol

 

[Jetster]

Today I received my ASUS Xonar DGX. installed with the stock drivers and it works. Did hear much difference with the speakers but the headphones sound great. Didn't have much time to mes with it.

 

[BumbleBee]

Today I received my ASUS Xonar DGX. installed with the stock drivers and it works. Did hear much difference with the speakers but the headphones sound great. Didn't have much time to mes with it.

great. uninstall the stock drivers and try the Xonar Unified ones.