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I had some stuttering on the first days, it's fixed now. That's mostly it, I keep it for gaming, else I use a Linux distro.
 
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I had some stuttering on the first days, it's fixed now. That's mostly it, I keep it for gaming, else I use a Linux distro.
Yep M$ will never let Directx go, ever. They hug that source code cause it is their only life blood left outside of business, but even business is changing. Personally if I were starting a business I'd just use Ubuntu and Libre Office, or Linux Mint Cinnamon to make it easier on my employees... actually most employees just want the very basics, so maybe XFCE

I feel like Windows 10 overwhelms a lot of normal people with the amount of options it has
 
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If a game is DX9 to 11, you will most likely get almost the same performance with the Vulkan wrappers (D9VK, DXVK, the D3D12 one that I can't remember right now). The problem is just wine, and Valve is solving it with Proton, slowly but surely.
DX will be fully "cracked" sooner or later, let's see what Microsoft does then.
 
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Yep M$ will never let Directx go, ever. They hug that source code cause it is their only life blood left outside of business, but even business is changing. Personally if I were starting a business I'd just use Ubuntu and Libre Office, or Linux Mint Cinnamon to make it easier on my employees... actually most employees just want the very basics, so maybe XFCE

I feel like Windows 10 overwhelms a lot of normal people with the amount of options it has
"Normal" people don't bother with windows options, they just use it.
 
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If a game is DX9 to 11, you will most likely get almost the same performance with the Vulkan wrappers (D9VK, DXVK, the D3D12 one that I can't remember right now). The problem is just wine, and Valve is solving it with Proton, slowly but surely.
DX will be fully "cracked" sooner or later, let's see what Microsoft does then.
Yes, I had a friend tell me about this Proton thing recently, never heard of it until now. Very cool stuff is happening, I just hope they can make it user friendly, I'm not that great with command lines and such lol
 
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Yes, I had a friend tell me about this Proton thing recently, never heard of it until now. Very cool stuff is happening, I just hope they can make it user friendly, I'm not that great with command lines and such lol
Proton is baked into Steam. 95% of the time, you just launch the game from Steam and it works. I've been playing Skyrim again and all I do is launch it from Steam. Even with Wine, just installing DXVK makes Diablo 3 work almost flawlessly, but Proton is nice because it already does that for you.
 

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I use Arch with XFCE, PrimeOS and Debian with KDE in my primary PC in PC of my family is installed Linux Mint XFCE, Distros Linux are very good, because are fast, stable and totally customizable ^^
 
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If game devs were smart, they'd completely ditch DirectX in favor of vulkan.
It's not that simple, Vulkan Is too mobile focused, and lacks a lot of characteristics that both OpenGL and Diretc3D offer. Add to that how bureaucratic it is for everything.
It IS a game changer when implemented properly, but it takes a lot of effort.
 

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Proton is baked into Steam. 95% of the time, you just launch the game from Steam and it works. I've been playing Skyrim again and all I do is launch it from Steam. Even with Wine, just installing DXVK makes Diablo 3 work almost flawlessly, but Proton is nice because it already does that for you.
I'm looking forward to SteamOS coming out of beta ^^
 

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I'm looking forward to SteamOS coming out of beta ^^
It's just Debian running Steam with Big Picture. I can open Big Picture in Steam on my machine and it's literally the same exact thing.
 

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It's just Debian running Steam with Big Picture. I can open Big Picture in Steam on my machine and it's literally the same exact thing.
Except Debian is more capable out of the box than SteamOS still right? Last I'd looked at SteamOS it essentially locked you into big picture mode and gave you very little else to access, modify or do beyond Steam itself. I could be way off base...its been years since I looked at SteamOS.
 

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Except Debian is more capable out of the box than SteamOS still right? Last I'd looked at SteamOS it essentially locked you into big picture mode and gave you very little else to access, modify or do beyond Steam itself. I could be way off base...its been years since I looked at SteamOS.
It's literally just Debian that starts Steam at boot in Big Picture. The base system is Debian. It's even a Debian installer when you install it on your machine.
 

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You should take another look. It's improved a fair bit. I'm still wondering why they haven't released 3.0 though. Maybe lack of interest?
Big Picture needs to run in 4k if they want to get me interested.
 

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That seems a bit shallow to me, but whatever. To each their own.
Most TVs are 4k these days, so no, I don't think it's a huge ask. That's literally the lowest bar they haven't reached and it hasn't changed for years. They really haven't given it the love it should have gotten if they were really interested in making it good. You can only throw so much resources towards a fraction of less than 1% of your users and I just don't have high hopes and I'm incredibly pessimistic about their willingness and dedication to making it good. They're far more focused on making sure Proton turns out well because making Big Picture work as well as a modern game console is secondary to giving people a reason to use it: They can play all their games (Proton.)

So yeah, my response was shallow, but the depth of Steam's issues with Big Picture are pretty deep. Supporting 4k is something that should be trivial.
 
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Valve is helping a lot on the AMD drivers on Linux, both OpenGL and Vulkan, so my guess is that most of their "Linux resources" are spent there.
 
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Most TVs are 4k these days
No they aren't.
so no, I don't think it's a huge ask.
Most people don't game in 4k. Most are still at 1080p.
That's literally the lowest bar they haven't reached and it hasn't changed for years.
That's an opinion on your part.
Supporting 4k is something that should be trivial.
That assumes there is enough demand. Most people don't run Linux, and most Linux users run 1080p. You're literally a minority within a minority.
 

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No they aren't.
Have you gone out and looked at TVs lately? 400 USD will get you a half decent 4k display these days. In fact that's what mine cost two years ago, so I expect that it has gotten cheaper since then. My parents even picked up a 65-inch 4k TV for something like 600.
Most people don't game in 4k. Most are still at 1080p.
Yes, but 1440p and 4k has the most growth of any other resolution and 1080 usage is declining according to Steam Hardware/Software stats.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
That's an opinion on your part.
That they can't add 1440p and 4k as resolutions for Big Picture? You can call it an opinion, but it is definitely still a low bar that hasn't been reached.
That assumes there is enough demand. Most people don't run Linux, and most Linux users run 1080p. You're literally a minority within a minority.
Then they shouldn't be working on Proton either for the same reasons, but they are. Also, switching resolution isn't a hard thing. It's just that Steam doesn't care enough to do anything about it, probably because fewer people use Big Picture than people with 4k displays. :laugh:
 
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Am i the only one on the forums that hasnt had an issue since the OS release?
i guess it depends how you look at issues.
No they aren't.

Most people don't game in 4k. Most are still at 1080p.

That's an opinion on your part.

That assumes there is enough demand. Most people don't run Linux, and most Linux users run 1080p. You're literally a minority within a minority.
u are joking? what are most tv's if not 4k? 8k? :p last 1080p i bought was a plasma LG long ago (still works but i dont use it due to reflection heat and 1080p sillyness.

I think they mean most MONITORS are not 4k. then yes infact you could be correct or close ;) But since VRR i have been using 65" nu8000 for my main display and have a hard time using anything else, when gaming it does 120hz@1440p. highly recommend the display for anyone to use, maybe a 55" if 65" is to big but the 49" is not the same 120hz@1440p
 
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