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If you've truly used it you'd not be laughing. It beats 7 in every way, as long as you use Start 8 or Classic Shell.

And this is coming from a guy who was a staunch holdout for a year, staying on 7.
 

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Whatever. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
It's not ignorance, if W8 makes you happy i am happy for you too, everyone is happy with what they like;)
 

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It's not ignorance, if W8 makes you happy i am happy for you too, everyone is happy with what they like;)
Then thats the attitude you should have displayed first. The OP asked for opinions. That's what I gave him, as well as some insight on 8.1 and 10 he appeared to not know.

So, remind me to laugh at you next time you talk about how 7 is the best, which you have done many times in the past.
 
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If you've truly used it you'd not be laughing. It beats 7 in every way, as long as you use Start 8 or Classic Shell.

And this is coming from a guy who was a staunch holdout for a year, staying on 7.
I'll second that.

While I'm still on W7, I did try W8.1 with Classic Shell a few months ago and it worked very well indeed. I even like the new sharp-edged desktop look and the colours. However, I wasn't prepared to give up Aero and couldn't see any major benefits to my daily use to switching, hence I'm still on W7 for now. Likely I'll move over to W10 when it becomes compelling enough.
 

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Windows Feedback popped up on Windows 10 asking how likely I am to tell friends about it. I gave it 2 out of 5 listing three bugs (notification window doesn't open when clicked, can't right-click on Windows Store in task bar, customizing Notification Area dialog causes the dialog to crash), three bad features (no control over Windows Update, no Windows Media Center, and forget the last one), lack of USB Audio Class 2 Driver, and I called the Xbox app an "abomination" for PC gamers warning that if they keep it up, Steam OS is going to get very popular. I also said blankly that Windows 10 "feels rushed" and, that if Windows 10 weren't free, it would have suffered the same fate as Vista/8/8.1.


Which OS do I prefer? In my book, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition is still king. If it had DX12 support, I'd still be using it today.
 
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Which OS do I prefer? In my book, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition is still king.
Ah, I remember running that for a while.

Other than the extra RAM addressibility, I remember having lots of niggling problems with it with no upside, especially with support being somewhat less than 32-bit XP since mainstream 64-but support was still in its infancy then. I still liked it though and it was very good at its core. Had to go back to 32-bit XP eventually though. One thing I did like though was the OEM box it came in and its no nonsense styling made to look like the blue XP desktop. Just a little thing, but it's still got a place on my shelf. :)

Your feedback on W10 sounds good, but it's a shame Microsoft is unlikely to listen. :ohwell:
 
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If you've truly used it you'd not be laughing. It beats 7 in every way, as long as you use Start 8 or Classic Shell.

And this is coming from a guy who was a staunch holdout for a year, staying on 7.
using it (8.1) on the alpha and while i like 8.1 more than 8 i am still laughing at the statement... "and it's probably the best OS that MS ever released."

sorry nothing beat 7 (imho ... and you should have used "imho" too ;) )

as for me ... depends ...
retro rig .... XP FTW
main rig ... 7 and only 7 (until M$ sort his "control freak" behavior ... )
living room rig (aka game console): Alpha UI + steam big picture (aka 8.1 light load :laugh: ) the best of 8.1 nothing of 8.1 loaded than the drivers, no bloat no memory hog.
HTPC/non game mode LRR: 8.1 + Microsoft All In One Media Keyboard, do a fine job :roll:


now that you mention it ... i need to check on classic shell...

yep classic shell was enough ... duh .... i might need to upgrade my main rig to 8.1.... naaahhhh, let's hope M$ will correct the grief on 10 and i will still be able to update to 10 for free :laugh: without the "we choose your drivers for you because you don't know sh*t about it"
 
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let's hope M$ will correct the grief on 10 and is will still be able to update to 10 for free :laugh: without the "we choose your drivers for you because you don't know sh*t about it"
Didn't MS put in an opt out for that due to all the problems?
 

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Other than the extra RAM addressibility, I remember having lots of niggling problems with it with no upside, especially with support being somewhat less than 32-bit XP since mainstream 64-but support was still in its infancy then. I still liked it though and it was very good at its core. Had to go back to 32-bit XP eventually though. One thing I did like though was the OEM box it came in and its no nonsense styling made to look like the blue XP desktop. Just a little thing, but it's still got a place on my shelf. :)
All of the hardware in my computer fully supported XP x64 so I had no problems. Yeah, it didn't get the driver love that XP and Vista got...really the only bad thing about it but if you were careful about what you buy, it wasn't a problem.
 
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Didn't MS put in an opt out for that due to all the problems?
No, they gave you the option not installing updates in the middle of what you are doing. The last set it told me based on my usage, 3:30am looked like a good time. You then have option to delay it till then, or do it now.

It still doesn't fix the problem of some drivers, particularly graphics drivers, which can seriously screw a system up if not tested properly, being forced on you. All you can do is delay things a bit.
 

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That's seriously screwed up, man!
 

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All of the hardware in my computer fully supported XP x64 so I had no problems. Yeah, it didn't get the driver love that XP and Vista go...really the only bad thing about it but if you were careful about what you buy, it wasn't a problem.
So true, Loved XP X64 had no problems tbh either.

Just thinking about that MS upgrade offer to win10 and it's not auto installed or anything so maybe i been removed of their silly ass list or some thing and yes auto updates are on.

I will wait until they get out a service pack if they do not delay it over the year period.

But it's all about Win7 for me even on the other machine i like Vista over win10.
 

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No, they gave you the option not installing updates in the middle of what you are doing. The last set it told me based on my usage, 3:30am looked like a good time. You then have option to delay it till then, or do it now.

It still doesn't fix the problem of some drivers, particularly graphics drivers, which can seriously screw a system up if not tested properly, being forced on you. All you can do is delay things a bit.
Thanks for the update. I'm not touching it until Microsoft stop forcing their drivers onto us.

For example, I install the latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA's website, or more accurately, let GeForce Experience do this for me nowadays. Yet, I still see an occasional NVIDIA driver available on Windows Update. I let it install once (quite some time ago now) to see what would happen and yes, you guessed it, it was the same crappy MS version without the all-important control panel so I could do fuck all with my graphics card. I haven't let Microsoft install it since and no way am I gonna let them force it on me with W10.
 
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Thanks for the update. I'm not touching it until Microsoft stop forcing their drivers onto us.

For example, I install the latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA's website, or more accurately, let GeForce Experience do this for me nowadays. Yet, I still see an occasional NVIDIA driver available on Windows Update. I let it install once (quite some time ago now) to see what would happen and yes, you guessed it, it was the same crappy MS version without the all-important control panel so I could do fuck all with my graphics card. I haven't let Microsoft install it since and no way am I gonna let them force it on me with W10.
same here ... on my main rig the latest driver was good (and it was ... almost late ... since 347.88) and on my Alpha ... only custom driver from ALW works ... so i wonder if a W10 install would break some feature that box has ... IE: Alpha UI and other stuff ... (tho i have the w10 option in WinUpdate but no GWX icon and annoying notification :D )
 

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There's supposed to be a big update for Windows 10 in November. Hopefully it fixes all the bugs and gives users more control over the operating system. It seems like almost all of the patches they are pushing out now are only security updates.
 
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System Name Gaming PC, now I have an HP lappy
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3300 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
Motherboard GA-B75M-D3H (rev. 1.1)
Cooling Stock
Memory crucial dominator 8gb DDR3 dimm
Video Card(s) AMD HIS 6870 (barts XT) Fan 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E HDMI/DP/2xDVI
Storage HDS722580VLSA80
Display(s) 19" Acer P215H
Case old silver case from the office
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer Sound Card without the remote
Power Supply RX-730SS 730W
Mouse Kiwi Technology Optical mouse m/n kw114
Keyboard Mitsumi keyboard unit
Software OS is Windows 7 home premium, sometimes I use linux mint mate or sabayon both live
Benchmark Scores CL-RCD-RP-RAS Write Speed 2x DDR3-1333 SDRAM 9-9-9-23 CR1 10484 MB/s
I would first backup all your data on an external harddrive (these days they connect though a USB port) The second USB stick I would use Rufus USB creator (if your in windows) to install the linux ISO image file onto.

Netrunner its very good at converting videos.
(Netrunner is a Kubuntu-based distribution featuring a highly customised KDE desktop with extra applications, multimedia codecs, Flash and Java plugins, and a unique look and feel. The modifications are designed to enhance the user-friendliness of the desktop environment while still preserving the freedom to tweak. A separate "Rolling" edition, based on Manjaro Linux, was launched in 2014. ) http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=netrunner
If your running live I would go to the terminal and enable the ufw firewall with
Code:
sudo ufw enable
You can check that its on with this
Code:
ufw status
Then just log out and back in. I use the live version which has handbrake in the menu. Live also has adblock plus, and a few downloaders pre-installed in firefox.

I use Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit for everyday use. Sometimes I will use Linux Mint Mate 16. read some great things about DX12 and gaming but I'm not ready to leap yet.
 
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Windows Feedback popped up on Windows 10 asking how likely I am to tell friends about it. I gave it 2 out of 5 listing three bugs (notification window doesn't open when clicked, can't right-click on Windows Store in task bar, customizing Notification Area dialog causes the dialog to crash), three bad features (no control over Windows Update, no Windows Media Center, and forget the last one), lack of USB Audio Class 2 Driver, and I called the Xbox app an "abomination" for PC gamers warning that if they keep it up, Steam OS is going to get very popular. I also said blankly that Windows 10 "feels rushed" and, that if Windows 10 weren't free, it would have suffered the same fate as Vista/8/8.1.


Which OS do I prefer? In my book, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition is still king. If it had DX12 support, I'd still be using it today.

I ran XP x64 for quite a while. My biggest problem was that driver support always seemed to be a few steps behind everything else, and getting the 8 GB of RAM that actually justified it on the DDR2 hardware it finished life with (yeah, support just ended last year, but it actually died when Vista came out and MS cut off anything but critical updates) was surprisingly expensive.

I've got the say Window 7 is probably my nostalgic best OS. Its 64 bit version didn't require sacrificing goats to get drivers, it wasn't absolutely horrible on the UAC side of things, the average user had enough configured for them out of the box to need very little maintenance, and MS hadn't started the nickle and diming micro-transaction OS model yet. Vista was a turd, 8 was for tablets only (which poisoned the well for 8.1, despite it being much better), XP had driver and hardware issues (really, it was released in the time of dial-up and lasted into 100 Mb internet so no qualms there), 10 was released too early with a myriad of issues that have yet to be resolved, and anything earlier than that just wasn't designed for a stupid user base.



As far as Linux, start with a major distribution, to test the waters. Debian and Ubuntu are good starting points. Once you've dipped your toes in there, determine what you want. If you're security paranoid, Backtrack. If you're footprint conscious, Puppy dog. I could list flavors all day, and not hit all of them. The amount of flavors out there is preposterous, and if none of the suit you make your own. Heck, with apt-get (or whatever variant your flavor uses) you can roll in anything you want, and expand any existing distro to be what you need.
 

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"I go fast!1!11!1!"
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System Name BY-2015
Processor Intel Core i7-6700K (4 x 4.00 GHz) w/ HT and Turbo on
Motherboard MSI Z170A GAMING M7
Cooling Scythe Kotetsu
Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-2133 8 GiB
Video Card(s) Sapphire NITRO+ RX 590 Special Edition 8 GiB DVI + HDMI
Storage Crucial MX300 275 GB, Seagate Exos X12 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster T240 24" LCD (1920x1200 HDMI) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW 19" LCD (1440x900 DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse SteelSeries Sensei RAW
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
I actually used XP x64 with 3 GiB (2x512, 2x1024) most of the time I used it. It was still more responsive than XP because of more aggressive caching. It was on Windows Server 2003 R2 x64 Edition update cycle which is why it got updates a lot longer than XP.

I still can't stand 8.1/Server 2008 R2. Every time I switch from my computer (be it Windows 7 or Windows 10), my productivity plummets because I know what I want but I can't find it. I figured Windows 10 would help me with that but, nope. Also, I think the NT 6.3 kernel doesn't handle multithreading near as well as NT 10.0. My computer is responsive all of the time running BOINC at 100%--even games. Whenever I switch to my server and try to work with a program in the tray, it's really lazy about it. BOINC is running 100% on there too.
 
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New Delhi
System Name Hell Reloaded
Processor Intel Core i5 4440 3.1 GHz LGA 1150
Motherboard MSI H97M-G43 Motherboard
Cooling Circle 120MM * 3
Memory G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3-F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL (2*4GB)
Video Card(s) MSI R9 270x Gaming 2GB (1120 MHz)
Storage WDC 500 GB + WD Caviar Green 1 TB
Display(s) Samsung 21.5 inch LS22D390HS/XL LED Backlit LCD Monitor
Case Circle CC 830 Full Tower Red & Black (Red LED)
Audio Device(s) Motherboard||Realtek ALC892 7.1 Channel HD Audio
Power Supply Cooler Master GXII 550W RS-550-ACAA-B1 550 Watts PSU
Mouse Logitech B100 Wired Mouse
Keyboard Logitech Keyboard
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
Benchmark Scores What....??? o_0
Windows 7 and Ubantu Linux :-D
 
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System Name Ragnorak
Processor Q8300
Motherboard older Asus socket 775 board
Cooling stock intel
Memory 8gb ddr2
Video Card(s) gigabyte Gtx 750 ti oc black edition
Storage 500 gb HDD
Case Thermaltake SapranoRS
Audio Device(s) Stock/Stock
Power Supply Unkown
Mouse Razer Naga
Keyboard boring old keyboard
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores to low to even bother
i quite enjoy windows 8.1
 
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System Name Built By Me
Processor Intel Core i9 9900K @ 5.0 GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
Cooling Custom Water Cooling - CPU Only
Memory 32GB (2 x 16) GSkill Ripjaws V DDR4
Video Card(s) GTX 1080 TI - EVGA FTW3 - Slave BIOS
Storage 1TB Samsung 970 Evo NVMe
Display(s) AOC AGON AG271QG @ 165 Hz
Case Fractal Design Define S2
Audio Device(s) HyperX Cloud Alpha
Power Supply 850W Seasonic Platinum
Mouse Logitech G Pro Wireless
Keyboard Logitech G413 - RomerG Switches
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
For Windows 10, if you do not want to install driver updates, type in "View Advanced System Settings" into the start menu, click on the "Hardware" tab, click on the "Device Installation Settings" button, read the text on the windows that pops up, and you can select "No, let me choose what to do," then "Never install driver software from Windows Update." Click "Save Changes." You might want to restart for good measure.
 
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