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Who'll be the better president?

Discussion in 'TPU Frontpage Polls' started by W1zzard, Oct 1, 2008.

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Who'll be the better president?

Poll closed Oct 6, 2008.
  1. Barack Obama

    1,290 vote(s)
    57.9%
  2. John McCain

    333 vote(s)
    14.9%
  3. But I want George W. Bush

    177 vote(s)
    7.9%
  4. Don't care

    429 vote(s)
    19.2%
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  1. Rammsteiner New Member

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    Im intolerant? lol

    Anyway, how would I know you were about the context of my posts? It's making pretty much a lot of sense. Good to know that my English is good enough:p

    Also I posted at least twice Im from The Netherlands, so you could have known.

    Yes, if you forget about, what would it be, 30~40% of USA it's as tolerant as any western country (aka, not the most tolerant). But the other 30~40% is about as intolerant as the people in the Middle East living in the mountains. You're missing my point quite badly, if people call it 'The land of the free', then there shouldnt be such bad intolerance but yet especially in those states the intolerance is the worst.

    Oh, btw, Im just as foolish for you as some pipes were mass destruction weapons anyway so your accusement has about zero value to me.

    Spoken about intolerance. So you basicly pick your friends as long as their ideology and opinions are the same as yours?

    Ive loads of friends. Foreign people dropping out of school and making a mess of their life, nationalistic people (and here I mean the underdog nazi's), more casual people, goth's for that matter. A lot of people who do have sometimes about the opposite opinion/idealogy of me. Some of them hate this country, some of them would kill for this country. Do I care? No, in the end we're just having fun. We dont have to discuss politics, religions, opinions etc on those levels anyway.

    @BigJohn, Im sorry, I think something messed up in the quote then:banghead:. Ill edit it, thx for notifying. I did know I was replying to trt though but this way it seems like I wasnt;)
     
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    Your responded because you felt suddenly defensive and insecure. You felt defensive and insecure because you realize this is the internet and any "evidence" you give in the form of who you are or what you do is completely useless.

    I could tell you I'm the bloody King of Spain, and without independently knowing the King of Spain, you have no way of knowing if it's true or not.

    I'm sure you could be a great police officer who's department was on the cover of Life Magazine. Or you could be unemployed and stamp envelopes for a living. Who knows?

    And my post was full of facts -- facts that you chose not to respond to. ;)
     
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    Your assuming a bunch of things here. I have very diverse friends, of different races, religions and backgrounds and since the USA is the only country on earth to have a citizen from every other country on earth ( that statistic occurred two years ago) it would appear we get along very well. I would have no problem voting for a black Muslim, Buddhist, atheistic, or agnostic president of any racial back ground, who is a proud of his country, and a fair , even handed, conservative politican that does not hang out with convicted terrorists , racists or criminals.
     
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    Remain civil and refrain from personal attacks or there will be infractions.
     
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    thats funny because I'm hard pressed to find any.
     
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    And I quote:

    The Saudi government supports Wahhabism. Wahhabism spawns terrorism. The King of Saudi Arabia is the head of the government (and the direct head of the Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (Saudi Arabia)). Thus, to me, the King is a terrorist.

    [​IMG]

    Please respond.
     
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    trt you're wasting your breath here, it seems that most of tpu wants obama to win, whether the americans on here see why so many outsiders are so interested in a presidential candidate or not; you're arguing with young unexpereinced and unknowing people who can merely browse the internet instead of going back into history looking for how our government operates, how it should operate and how it has operated in the past. you cannot make the blind, see; the deaf, hear; or the mute, speak.

    the majority of those posting on here cannot vote as such they have no real investemnt in our country and therby MUST have an alterior motive. I encourage the Americans on this forums to really think about that. These are scary times and I worry what the rest of the world will do when they sense our weakness, they seem to be frothing at the mouth already.

    My time on this forum has shown me what a waste of time it is, and recent developments have seemed to ake me choose between adulthood and responsibility or old habits that die hard. I have made my choice. and I pray that all those voting in the election make their own, not because of media influences (who have their own motives) not because their freinds views, nor their parents nor their teachers. But logical thought and reason. The world does not operate by the whim of a teen on a computer and I pray most of you realize that.
     
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    Oh, of course,it's the Obama fans on here who are unable to look back in history...

    Unlike people like yourself who are unable to look at the past 8 years and see what a disastrous Republican administration has done to destroy your own country. :shadedshu

    People don't even necessarily believe Obama will fix everything -- it's just that Republicans have run the US so horribly that people are willing to vote for anybody who's different.

    (And no matter how many times McCain calls himself a "maverick," he's not fooling anybody.)
     
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    I addressed that and there is some merit it what your saying but that is to complexed a topic to discuss here and bears zero relevance to this topic. read my post.


    Yogurt point noted and you are very correct I'm done posting on this thread.


    Here is is Obama meeting with ex terrorist head of Fatah / PLO and current president of Palestine leader Mahmoud Abbas and just because he met with him I could makes several assumption but I won't since I realize how ridiculous that would be. Since hes doesn't contribute to Obamas campaign and his kids don't go to school with Obamas kids and they don't socialize on the weekends as William Ayes does with Obama. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ayers
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    It's good that you don't make those assumptions, because I wouldn't think that Mahmoud Abbas is a bad guy -- for instance, here's Bush meeting with him:

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    And even John McCain said he's a great guy:

    SOURCE

    And seriously -- what the hell is it with Bush and holding hands with these guys?

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    And please, give some evidence of "Obama socializing with William Ayers on the weekends," because frankly that sounds like a lot of crap.
     

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    [And please, give some evidence of "Obama socializing with William Ayers on the weekends," because frankly that sounds like a lot of crap.[/QUOTE]


    once again id G.W running for president again and if not what is the relevance of these photos to this topic? As far as I know Mccain and Obama are running and neither is a big G.W fan. Also there are tons of listing show Ayres connection to Obama and it will be mentioned tonight in the debate as it already has been by Palin. No matter what evidence posted your not going to accept it anyways.
     
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    Come on man, first Fox News is your source of "information" and now Wikipedia? Even elementary school kids know that Wikipedia is not a valid resource for info...
     
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    Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. I agree w/ Obama's claim to meet w/ "enemies" as it is the only way peace will be attained. Closing communications and attempting to be heavy handed will only further encourage dissent and spawn ill-will toward the nation.

    You can attempt to look at things as black and white and say this man's a terrorist this man isn't but it's just not that simple. Politics, money, it's a dirty game in which no head of our nation or others is clean from. Some have called our own presidents terrorists, and in some cases rightly so. Granted a distinction from appropriate action towards peace and collaborating with those who would never have it must be made, but it's foolish to think either candidate is clean of less than desirable contacts. Wasn't it Ragen who gave weapons to Bin Laden? If your wanting somebody who never associated w/ someone who could be called a terrorist in some sense, you'll be waiting for quite a while......
     
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    Nothing there is wrong look it up. Ayres went to prison for it WTF.
     
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    You've said like three times now that you're not going to post anymore in this thread. :D

    GW is the current Republican president. John McCain is running on the Republican ticket. The two are very connected:

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    Trying to talk about the current election without mentioning the current President (our buddy George Bush) is like sticking your head in the sand -- especially when one candidate is from the same party.

    But go ahead -- tell me how John McCain's "different." Tell me how much of a "maverick" he is. :laugh:
     
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    Wikipedia has actually been found to be very accurate, in some cases more so than Encyclopedia Britanica. Although in political areas neutrality is a misnomer.
     
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    It's wrong when you say they "socialize on weekends," when the link you provide clearly states they haven't had any political contact since 2001.

    Now he's a widely respected and published Professor. What is your point? That Obama is a terrorist because he was involved in community and educational programs with a former radical who is now a distinguished professor? WTF?
     
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    It's a good "starting" point, at least -- when you read something on Wikipedia, search the web for other information regarding the same topic, and if you find tons of legitimate links, usually you can depend on that information.
     
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    The two aren't friends and it has been reported widely that John Mccain didn't vote for him(Mccain says he did) Mccain has widelly criticized Bush aswell. Why are you attempting to bait me please stop I will not bit. This flame baiting is getting hard to accept.
     
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    At the bottom of most wiki pages you can find a reference list, as w/ any respectable publication, w/ links galore on where the information was compiled from. Follow those links if one doubts the articles credibility.
     
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    And when I thought the arguments couldnt get worse...

    Not all those people are welcome everywhere in the USA, especially not in the so called Land of the Free. You missed my exact same point for the countless times. Maybe you should stick to your word and not post here anymore. I mean, then you dont need to 'lower your intellectual level to us ignorant people' anymore too.

    Well, besides that USA pulled the rest of the world into a hole too, be it economical, hatred or pure destruction does not matter obviously. At least Im not saying Obama is 'the president', but if there's a choice between McCain and Obama I'd know what I would vote. And tbh, I dont even think someone is going to change their mind over this topic since 4 years of Bush wasnt enough to get the majority not to vote on him again.

    That praying part makes me worried btw:twitch:

    Errr, your point being? There's nothing wrong with the PLO. People fighting for their country attacking your allies does not make this particular enemy a terrorist.
     
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    "Bait" you? Buddy, I'm just presenting facts. Unless the obvious connections between the curent Republican candidate and the current Republican President are personally offensive to you -- but then again, sometimes the truth hurts.

    And the two aren't friends now -- they sure as heck used to be close. Though I'm sure there distance now has more to do with Bush's 27% approval rating and less to do with any differences of ideology.
     
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    Who is it that respects Bill Ayres the man is responsible for several terrorist attacks . Okay Following your logic, so you would not have a problem with John Mccain going to Timothy Mcveigh house for a campaign fund raisor, if he was still alive, and then siting on the Board of Directors at his company, then maybe a stop at David Dukes church for service.
     
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    thx buddy and yes you are attempting to bait me, buddy, they have never been friends and Mccain ihas been accused by many as being a Democrat because of all his bypartisan laws and bills hes passed with senator like Teddy Kennedy and Diane Finegold. Hes actually very moderate and as close to a conservative Democrat as possible.
     
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    If I'm baiting you then you're hooked good and tight, like a big ol' Alabama catfish. :laugh:

    I call you "buddy" because I consider you my friend, regardless of our obvious political differences, because we all share a common love of computer hardware.

    What, you don't want to be friends? :toast:
     

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