ok so what i get from all the pages of SHIT i read in this thred.
some people think we should: kill/let die all cripples and people who have any mental or physical problems because it would be better for the gene pool.
Outlaw all abortion, if the pregnancy is a thred to the mothers life, let them both die, again better for the gene pool I guess.......
Not vote for obama because he went to a church with a batshit crazy preecher(guess im not welcome to run for pres since i was raised in a church with a battshit crazy preecher who was a nice guy but was also insainly bad about hating on anybody who wasnt in 100% agreement with his views)
Let people who cant afford to pay for care in advance at emergency room die, hell if they cant afford to pay for treatment they must be genetic rejects so again ur cleaning the gene pool.
Abolish all taxes, because taxing people to pay to run the govt is theft.
Stay in a war thats never going to end and keep spending extreamly large ammounts of money (borrowed from china!!!)
now to this I dont think an instant pullout is the answer but I dont think staying in there for the next 20-30-40-50-80 years is going to fix it...........
what else did I see the extream rightwing nutters saying.......
oh yeah, no govt involvement in anything let the free market deside what gets done........yeah thats gonna work.......so u could keep ur money insted of pay taxes but endup spending more because free maket prices could keep going up up up...woot........
trickel down works, the rich eventuly trickle down something to the poor, most times its the equivlant of piss but hey its still trickle down!!!!!
humm what else was there........
meh dosnt matter,
my comments as shortly as I can put it.
100% privat healthcare isnt doing the trick, nore is "capitilisim" Now I am a "capitolist" I run my own small computer/tech consulting shop, but fact is that if this last 6 months has shown us anything its that there needs to be some level of govt control/oversite or shit goes to hell.....I think doing this with healthcare would be great, those who can afford it can get their own privat health plans, those who cant would beable to get basick healthcare via medicare, yeah its gonna cost more in the short term, but its been shown in a few studys I read(mag's will have to try and find them again) that by giving people health coverage that would cover preventitive care we could avoid the larger emergency health care costs.
its cheaper to give somebody with say TB pinicilin when its in its early stages then to give them care in a hosp for a week or more after it gets to a sever stage.
or strep, if any of you have seen how bad it can get......it can kill, it can also spred like wildfire, and by the time it gets bad enough most people go to hosp, many times they endup spending the night or a few nights......cost far higher then the person being able to go see a doc, get some meds and take them......
see its the typical rethuglican thing it would cost more in the short term and take money out of the hands of those greedy corps they all own stock in.......so its a bad thing.
btw for republicans to say they want smaller govt and less involvment in peoples lives is a bad joke.
try googling
patriot act
death of habeas corpus(military commitions act)
to name 2, I would post more but most of the people that really need to understand these things are to set in their view to truely understand the facts behind these "laws"
oh and the one thing I really hate clintion for DMCA, other then that and lieing about getting a bj, he was a riot, mcdonalds fixation was funny as hell to us, gave people like me hope he may stop in one day for a burger(i worked at mcdonalds for a while back then, became a manager then quit
)
little more on national healthcare, yeah it would cost a few bucks a month per person due to taxes but medicare is acctualy far more efficent then any HMO ever has been, its a PITA but its efficent (specly considering its govt program!!!)
I dont trust our govt, Infact im about as untrusting as you can get, life experiance has taught me that the govt is not for the people, and that the fact is its guilty till proven innocent.
but its also taught me that when ur hurt and got no insurance even a trip to hosp because a cop caused a cat to bite you can endup givinging you THOUSANDS of dollers in medical bills........
lets look at what they did.
made me sit and wait 3hrs dispite being very slow day(maby 8 people in the waiting room tops)
looked at my hand and said "yup thats a cat bite"
forced me to take IV antibiotics dispite the wound showing zero signs of infection.(it blead like a bitch and was just a little read at the puncture sits no swelling)
forced me to let them numb and flush the wound.
forced me to get the pills from their pharmicy since i couldnt afford to get what they prescribed(they wouldnt go with something cheaper)
total bill, over 3300bucks........
a friend of mine got bit by a racoon in canada, he ended up spending 150bucks total for his care.......thats without any privat insurance...........
his wounds where worse, he needed stiches and NEEDED the iv and such, still was drastickly cheaper, oh and he got in within 10min of showing up dispite the eroom being fairly busy(he was talking to me on his cell as he waited lol)
my basic point is, drug companys and HMO's and such all just want to hammer the american public and govt atm because theres nothing stoping it.
why is a cheaper to get the exect same drugs in canada or mexico (the real ones i mean) then it is to get them in the states?
if they wherent making money these drug compansy wouldnt be in that market.......but htey clearly are making $ off it just less then they are RAPING us and IMHO commiting highway robbery(theift) via their unfair pricing practices that our govt incurages..
blah, I dont like eather choice, but out of the 2 that have a chance obama scares me less then mccain, and biden is far less scarey then palin, at least to me he dosnt come off as a religous reigh nuttjob that isnt even able to answer simple questions in interviews.