Why a good decent card is abandoned??

[Keullo-e]

You could be right, I definitely had a 1.5GB GPU at some point with 3GB bigger brother (might have been a 570?) could've sworn it was the 670, regardless, the point still stands, either you have too little vRAM and not enough rasterization or the other way around, too much vRAM for the rasterization on offer, point in case, 7 year old GPU is still 7 year old GPU and shouldn't be relied upon in 2022 to play AAA titles reliably, not matter how awesome they were back in their heyday..

GTX 570 was a 1.25GB card though 2.5GB ones existed. GTX 580 sounds like the card you're meaning, as it was normally 1.5GB and there was few 3GB models.

 

[Dr. Dro]

i think u make some confusion/First of all R9 Fury X was released in 2015 and it was declared a capable 4k graphic card like gtx 980Ti
Second if u want to compare,compare it with Maxwell generation not Kepler,because Fury X was equivalent with 980Ti card,and 980Ti was from Maxwell generation not kepler,if u catch my drift...
And third, Fury X can be output 4k 60p through Display port 1.2 without any adapter.It doesn t have HDMI 2.0 true, but if u use it DP on monitor not on a TV with hdmi it can be output 4k 60p.
And it can output full chroma 4:4:4 on 4k resolution through display port 1.2 trust me...

You kinda wrote a lot to get to the same point that I was making: it doesn't have HDMI 2.0 support, which means that it couldn't use most of its contemporary 4K displays (aka TVs) without an active DP>HDMI adapter, and due to the aforementioned driver bug, it cannot be used on the later few drivers that supported this card anyway. Kepler can also do 4K above 30 Hz through DisplayPort as well, so they have about the same controller limitations. I mentioned 4:2:0 specifically, not full 4:4:4, btw. It can't downsample the chroma for extra bandwidth.

About it being comparable to Maxwell, I'd know, they were some of my favorite GPUs, after all

 

[chrcoluk]

A reviewer playing a game at 4 gig VRAM doesnt mean its universally going to work in every system, every time I see a reviewer system its bare bones in terms of software, and they tend to keep browsers closed etc. when games are running as well, plus test right after a boot up when everything i optimal.

AMD's venture with HBM was unfortunate as it led to them been unusually tight on VRAM for those SKUs.

 

[lexluthermiester]

every time I see a reviewer system its bare bones in terms of software, and they tend to keep browsers closed etc. when games are running as well, plus test right after a boot up when everything i optimal.

That is how you should be gaming. Nothing running but the game and GPU utilities. If you're leaving browsers and whatnot open and running, you're doing it wrong and have no room to complain...

 

[AsRock]

That is true.

FYI early GCN they stopped Supporting, (R9) they are still supporting RX. So just use the last known working driver. I did on a R7 250X for Windows 11, no instability at all and its a W10 driver)


When I have more time I will get an 8G 290X/390X VaporX/Nitro, possibly a Vega 64 Nitro and do some testing myself lol.

No it's not always true that some one should or can just upgrade.

 

[chrcoluk]

That is how you should be gaming. Nothing running but the game and GPU utilities. If you're leaving browsers and whatnot open and running, you're doing it wrong and have no room to complain...

If thats how I want to game I would just be using a games console. But even games consoles support multi tasking.

 

[Dr. Dro]

A reviewer playing a game at 4 gig VRAM doesnt mean its universally going to work in every system, every time I see a reviewer system its bare bones in terms of software, and they tend to keep browsers closed etc. when games are running as well, plus test right after a boot up when everything i optimal.

AMD's venture with HBM was unfortunate as it led to them been unusually tight on VRAM for those SKUs.

Yup, the marketing back then barked a lot more than these cards could ever offer of bite. Scaling issues aside, the Fury was excellent for high-quality 1080p gaming, where the 4 GB was adequate. I had the whole bunch of AMD HBM cards personally, the Vega Frontier and the VII as well... the VII was such an amazing graphics card, but Vega 20 is much more of a compute beast than it is a gaming GPU, imo. It's little wonder that became the base for CDNA and the graphics-oriented product took a complete opposite direction with the RDNA series.

Interestingly enough, today 4 GB is being pitched at the very low end for 1080p esports gaming, and that's pretty much where it sits these days as well but with all of that cumbersome liquid cooling and flagship-class power consumption... the only 4 GB GPU imo that is more or less viable for serious gaming today is the mobile 3050 because it supports DLSS, and that saves some crucial VRAM that will keep it from stuttering in more advanced games. Those 300 MB or so that it saves really change the experience, and unfortunately, FSR doesn't save as much memory... that's IF the game supports either because otherwise you are lowering the resolution anyway

Horizon's probably the best case example of DLSS (in Quality mode) making or breaking the mobile 3050, AMD's cards unfortunately don't really have an answer there yet, even considering FSR 2.0, IMO. This is from my laptop:

 

[Keullo-e]

A reviewer playing a game at 4 gig VRAM doesnt mean its universally going to work in every system, every time I see a reviewer system its bare bones in terms of software, and they tend to keep browsers closed etc. when games are running as well, plus test right after a boot up when everything i optimal.

AMD's venture with HBM was unfortunate as it led to them been unusually tight on VRAM for those SKUs.

I get your point, and my point was simply that the 4GB of VRAM isn't the OP's problem.

 

[lexluthermiester]

If thats how I want to game I would just be using a games console. But even games consoles support multi tasking.

You seem to be missing some context. Whatever, you do you...

I get your point, and my point was simply that the 4GB of VRAM isn't the OP's problem.

And you are correct, that is not the problem.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You seem to be missing some context. Whatever, you do you...

And you are correct, that is not the problem.

Right, it might have been for AMD though, being flagship card that would be performing more or less alongside the RX 6500 XT in most newer games due to VRAM starvation even though it's technically much faster, but this is just my speculation anyway. Anyway, as I mentioned early, it's not like sticking to the 21.5.2 drivers or - if you must - using NimeZ modded driver (I really wouldn't personally, unless there is no other choice) is going to change all that much. The Fury's as solid as any EOL GPU can be, IMHO.

 

[qubit]

That is how you should be gaming. Nothing running but the game and GPU utilities. If you're leaving browsers and whatnot open and running, you're doing it wrong and have no room to complain...

A few years ago, I noticed that leaving the NVIDIA control panel open would drop the framerate by a small amount. I don't think it does it anymore, but I've not checked recently.

 

[chrcoluk]

I get your point, and my point was simply that the 4GB of VRAM isn't the OP's problem.

Well it wont be the drivers, so whats the problem for the OP?

Shadow of Mordor 970 *cough*.

Far Cry 6 if I remember right had to have a patch released due to VRAM problem reports.

Just had a quick look at that youtuber's video, he played for 2 mins which for a VRAM impact test is pretty much void. Also found this pretty quickly, so I would say this is not a case closed, good luck to the OP if he can find the actual cause.

https://www.reddit.com/r/farcry/comments/qn105e

 

[Blaeza]

I thought most people would close down any unnecessary programs while playing games? But if you've got power to waste, so be it...

 

[chrcoluk]

I thought most people would close down any unnecessary programs while playing games? But if you've got power to waste, so be it...

I dont really know anyone who sits there shutting everything down, all the little applets, discord etc, before launching a game, unless maybe they on a low end laptop, certainly none of my friends do it on their desktops.

Although I have started doing it for VRAM heavy games like ff7 remake, I will shut down everything that utilises GPU acceleration in that situation and use browser on laptop or phone. However I feel if I have to do that, then the VRAM is under spec'd for what I am trying to do.

 

[Blaeza]

I dont really know anyone who sits there shutting everything down, all the little applets etc, before launching a game, unless maybe they on a low end laptop, certainly none of my friends do it on their desktops.

Although I have started doing it for VRAM heavy games like ff7 remake, I will shut down everything that utilises GPU acceleration in that situation and use browser on laptop or phone.

I suppose it depends on the user. I'm compulsive with it, if it's not being used, shut that shizz down. But I was using a dell 7010 with a GT1030 a couple of years ago and it's just stuck with me since then.

 

[Keullo-e]

I thought most people would close down any unnecessary programs while playing games? But if you've got power to waste, so be it...

I did that ~15 years ago, but I don't see any reason for that as I have RAM to spare etc. but that's already kinda offtopic.

 

[eidairaman1]

The guy I bought my 980 Classified from in 2017 had the R9 Fury X as well.. said it was a beast. He had to sell one so he ditched the 980, both are 4GB cards iirc. He refilled its AIO and was in love again

The 980 had a rattle in a fan that was fixed with a quick twist of the screwdriver. It’s running right now.. might try an AMD card.. not sure yet.. my last one was a
an Asus 4890. It did 1GHz core but nothing on the mems.

The 290 VaporX is a beast but Im sure that the RX 6000 Nitro/Toxic are as well

Right, it might have been for AMD though, being flagship card that would be performing more or less alongside the RX 6500 XT in most newer games due to VRAM starvation even though it's technically much faster, but this is just my speculation anyway. Anyway, as I mentioned early, it's not like sticking to the 21.5.2 drivers or - if you must - using NimeZ modded driver (I really wouldn't personally, unless there is no other choice) is going to change all that much. The Fury's as solid as any EOL GPU can be, IMHO.

Fury was out in 2015 so its been long enough that drivers have been optimized for them, same goes for R9/R7 series too. Even RX 500 are at the point, its RX Vega(maybe), RX 5000, 6000 that are still being worked on.

I just know that it was a smart move to stop the blower style heatsinks though.

 

[lexluthermiester]

A few years ago, I noticed that leaving the NVIDIA control panel open would drop the framerate by a small amount. I don't think it does it anymore, but I've not checked recently.

I think it still does, but it's not significant anymore because of how powerful CPUs/GPUs have become. However, web browsers with a bunch of tabs open WILL slow a PC down enough to effect a game.

The Fury's as solid as any EOL GPU can be, IMHO.

100% agree and they are still a solid gaming card.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Few weeks ago I replaced my R9 Fury with Nvidia GTX 1070TI,'tho I still have Fury here as my backup card but I will probably sell that card....It is excellent quality build GPU and still good performing card but as OP said "early" drop of AMD support for this and some other cards really annoyed me and after this I doubt that I will use AMD GPU's ever again or at least I will try to avoid them until Nvidia make some shady moves......You can use Nimez modded drivers and they are good for new games but still sometimes they can act weird&buggy.....GL

P.S.If you are interested you can also read more about this in my post from last year LINK

 

[gordon93]

I realise i'm upset for nothing,we live in a time when VRAM is CRUCIAL and support of drivers too of course. My card is like a "Ferrari" without gas due to limitation of vram...I also understand perfectly, 7 years of service is enough for a card.Only thing i cannot understand why is AMD always have a tend to abandoned their card with support drivers ,maybe because they are always constantly in fight with other company like Nvidia vga card and Intel processor company ,and they don't have time anymore for drivers....
I loved so much this card because is a blessing in a summer time because of liquid cooling,it never goes over 60-65 degree on hot days at full load.On winter time, never goes over 55 degree..Liquid cooling is a bl;ess.I remeber i have oportunity in 2016 to choose gtx 980Ti,and i choose this Fury just because of liquid cooling,and many people say at that time AMD perform better than 980Ti in dx12 title,and right now i realise i just wrong decision to keep Fury just for this.Gtx 980Ti is way way better just because have extra 2GB vram over Fury....
Anyway I must say bye bye to Fury X...I understand 8GB is a must have for the future, especially cuz this game or many other like him have HD texture option and for that i think 8Gb is not enough in the future....

I will try those modded drivers to see if is way better,but in my opinion all modded drivers is not like Official,i think are full of bugs..

p.s this game FarCry 6 is like Crysis in 2007,a power hungry and killer system...
p.p.s
For example Green camp have latest drivers for gtx 980TI,and that card is the same generation like Fury X, year 2015.....FOr this point i think Nvidia>AMD


AMD always have a tend to abandon their card

 

[Deleted member 24505]

What?

PEBCAK, one of many terms used in Internet chatting, stands for "problem exists between chair and keyboard," meaning it's a problem in user understanding or behavior rather than something wrong with hardware or software. The term is sometimes used by help desk people since it's a common class of problems.

I am still using a 1080ti at 1440 and it is still doing very well. I will probably never sell it even when i do get something "better"

Well it wont be the drivers, so whats the problem for the OP?

Shadow of Mordor 970 *cough*.

Far Cry 6 if I remember right had to have a patch released due to VRAM problem reports.

Just had a quick look at that youtuber's video, he played for 2 mins which for a VRAM impact test is pretty much void. Also found this pretty quickly, so I would say this is not a case closed, good luck to the OP if he can find the actual cause.

https://www.reddit.com/r/farcry/comments/qn105e

My FarCry 6 at 1440 is not using that much, unless you have your settings much higher than me.

 

[gordon93]

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just a curiosity i have,if u turn HD textures,8GB vram is enough?Can u test it for me please.Thanks in advance!

 

[regorwin56]

R9 280X (HD7970 update card) running on Win11 with final 21.5.2 driver

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

It's a business decision on AMD's end, and same for every case of support being cut - not enough users to warrant pouring resources into support for this, ultimately outdated, product.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

It's a business decision on AMD's end, and same for every case of support being cut - not enough users to warrant pouring resources into support for this, ultimately outdated, product.

Well sure....'tho some of the cards was not even 6 years old when AMD decide to stop with their driver supports + they make that decision in worst possible time because the GPU prices was totally crazy and most of those cards was perfectly capable for 1080p gaming....but as you said it's their business decision so be it it's also my and maybe some other people decision that from now on we are going to avoid AMD GPU's.......

P.S. If you asked me if they drop their support just 1 year later(now) it will be much wiser decision.....today GPU's prices are more or less back to normal and gamers finally can replace their "old" cards and not spent a fortune.....