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#1


It's running at 98* now, but still hasn't burned out
i'm thinking the coretemp and speedfan are reading it wrong
mounted the heatsink twice now
 
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I'm personally thinking it's something to do with the motherboard
I installed and booted with it without running the CD it came with ;[
 
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You did remember to put some thermal paste on it, right? :eek:
Try touching the heat-sink. Does it feel like 98deg? I'm pretty sure the cpu should be throttling and turning off at those temps...BTW there was something about the temp sensors not working on some mobos when you enable ACC in the bios.

Edit: like for this guy http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ma785gt-no-temp-readings-38217/
 
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You did remember to put some thermal paste on it, right? :eek:
Try touching the heat-sink. Does it feel like 98deg? I'm pretty sure the cpu should be throttling and turning off at those temps...BTW there was something about the temp sensors not working on some mobos when you enable ACC in the bios.

Edit: like for this guy http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ma785gt-no-temp-readings-38217/
heatsink came with thermal paste already applied
it doesn't feel like 98 degrees :)
 
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Are you sure you have the cooler/heatsink on properly? Looks sorta like it might not be flush.
You know cock-eyed.:)
 
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Are you sure you have the cooler/heatsink on properly? Looks sorta like it might not be flush.
You know cock-eyed.:)
I'm pretty sure I do.

What's the volts set at? Bios and CPU-z showing
1.1V at idle
and 1.4 at load (i think, i'll double check when i get back from school)
 
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I might have to swing to HalfAHertz's corner on this one. Something seems amiss... -128C on that one reading; are you running LN( Joking ).

Yeah use realtemp and cpu-z and you might wanna give HWMonitor a try.
 

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There's definately something wrong: as far as I know, AMD's don't throttle. CNQ is working, and it still reports 90C... pretty sure it would be dead if it were running at 90C.

What kind of mounting system is that... does it have the latch? If so, it's pretty hard to screw that up... you might want to clean up the thermal paste and re-apply new paste.

If reseating with a fresh application of thermal paste, either
a) you did it wrong 3 times
b) something is seriously concave or convex
c) the temp sensor is borked
 
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Very odd, sounds like your doing everything right, my guess its just reading it wrong.

What are the temps in the BIOS? if there just as high then there might be a problem, if not then we know that its just reading it wrong.
 
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I thinks it's in your mobo. My intel (e8500) had a 90C cutoff, it hit it twice (over a period of a year or so) and after that second time it never booted again. if you've been running these temps for a while, either you have one BAMF chip or it's an incorrect reading.
 

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The E8500 has a 100c tjmax/cutoff
 
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not what my BIOS told me when I booted (after the first) perhaps it was a mobo cutoff? (that board was an Asus p5q)
 

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If it would be running at 98c, it would be dead long time ago...
AMD's have a max stated temp of 62c if im not wrong, or maybe 63...
Intels do have 100c as stated max temp, and even tho, its really not good for an intel cpu to reach over 85c.
Try updateing your bios
 
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If it would be running at 98c, it would be dead long time ago...
AMD's have a max stated temp of 62c if im not wrong, or maybe 63...
Intels do have 100c as stated max temp, and even tho, its really not good for an intel cpu to reach over 85c.
Try updateing your bios
+1, You'd really know about it if it was running at those temperatures, you'd have crashes everywhere.
 
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Hmm, now it won't load windows
it's getting to the "starting windows" screen
then turns of
either that or past the ASUS screen then turns off

note: my motherboard says [copyright] 2008
and my cpu was released last year
so i'm thinking a BIOS update should fix the problem?
 
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Hmm, now it won't load windows
it's getting to the "starting windows" screen
then turns of
either that or past the ASUS screen then turns off

note: my motherboard says [copyright] 2008
and my cpu was released last year
so i'm thinking a BIOS update should fix the problem?
You should try all possibilitys....
In the worst case, u might have fried ur cpu..
 
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You should try all possibilitys....
In the worst case, u might have fried ur cpu..
I doubt it, i'm still getting POST beeps
 
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Hmm, now it won't load windows
it's getting to the "starting windows" screen
then turns of
either that or past the ASUS screen then turns off

note: my motherboard says [copyright] 2008
and my cpu was released last year
so i'm thinking a BIOS update should fix the problem?
then by all means update your bios
 
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how? XD
i tried running the CD but i didn't really get it
Take the CD and smash it into a thousand tiny pieces, you don't need it. Go to the Asus support site (Downloads), input your Motherboard model and what O/S you are using. It will then give you a list of drivers you need. It will also list your bios which you save to a USB flash drive, then flash using the utility in the bios. You should also go to www.amd.com and download the latest south bridge driver for your motherboard.


*The latest bios for your board is 1601 dated 10/22/09

Actually all you need from the Asus site is the bios. The chipset (SB driver) is located on AMD's site.
 

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are you using the stock cooler?
 

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Hmm, now it won't load windows
it's getting to the "starting windows" screen
then turns of
either that or past the ASUS screen then turns off

note: my motherboard says [copyright] 2008
and my cpu was released last year
so i'm thinking a BIOS update should fix the problem?
That is a pretty good sign of overheating.

Interesting how CoreTemp only shows 1 temp, despite having a Tri-Core processor...
 
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are you using the stock cooler?
Yes
Take the CD and smash it into a thousand tiny pieces, you don't need it. Go to the Asus support site (Downloads), input your Motherboard model and what O/S you are using. It will then give you a list of drivers you need. It will also list your bios which you save to a USB flash drive, then flash using the utility in the bios. You should also go to www.amd.com and download the latest south bridge driver for your motherboard.


*The latest bios for your board is 1601 dated 10/22/09

Actually all you need from the Asus site is the bios. The chipset (SB driver) is located on AMD's site.
mmmkay

That is a pretty good sign of overheating.

Interesting how CoreTemp only shows 1 temp, despite having a Tri-Core processor...

yeah i know man D:
it's doing a startup repair atm :D