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Why i'm boycotting corsair (iCue 4.x)

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My keyboards color stick similarly but custom key profiles don't. I need the software running for remaps and such to work, but for regular keyboard keys you don't need any of their software running for it to work normally.

If you close it from task manager your profile should stick and then you can prevent it running on startup in the startup tab and if you really want to stop it, open windows services (type services in the windows search bar) and look for corsair and disable their services.
I mean I just wanted to set my RAM static Blue like the rest of my colour scheme. Thankfully I just had to do it once and uninstall it. You having to do all that stuff was exa what I was worried I’d have to do to I have to keep my MoBo RGB software installed because every BIOS update resets the colour but it’s just a standalone prog I just have to run once, save a BIOS profile which saves my choice.
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Are you talking about the software?
Yes? iCue is corsairs software

We need the list of REMOVED hardware... and what happens when icue 5 rolls around and all our current stuff gets discontinued?

I think some people are missing the point that you're screwed if you own old and new hardware, and the definition of old is up in the air to be changed on a whim by corsair apparently
This is no new program with a new name, its a software update to the same program that just suddenly gave the middle finger to a bunch of their customers
 

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Yes? iCue is corsairs software

We need the list of REMOVED hardware... and what happens when icue 5 rolls around and all our current stuff gets discontinued?

I think some people are missing the point that you're screwed if you own old and new hardware, and the definition of old is up in the air to be changed on a whim by corsair apparently
This is no new program with a new name, its a software update to the same program that just suddenly gave the middle finger to a bunch of their customers

If you recall though, corsair had a time when they had to allow multiple software suites for all devices. That was also a shit show in itself.
 

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If you recall though, corsair had a time when they had to allow multiple software suites for all devices. That was also a shit show in itself.
yep, i remember those days. It had issues like the LGS to G hub transition but at no point did logitech tell me i couldnt use my hardware at all
 

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yep, i remember those days. It had issues like the LGS to G hub transition but at no point did logitech tell me i couldnt use my hardware at all

I agree the cutoff sucks, but how old is the gear (from release date) you have that is no longer supported?

I would guess two years or more.

I mean I get it, and if they still sell it, ICUE should support it, but dark2099 is on the right path with his argument.

@Mussels scroll down a bit for discontinued devices... https://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=204855
 
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@Mussels, if you're dealing with the situation of needing to use both version 3 and version 4 due to hardware you have, I did misunderstand that. And ultimately, yes, how Corsair is handling products becoming EOL is frustrating. I am curious too, with the whole Capellix line thingy, I'm guessing the change might be part of a rebrand and remarketing. I think the fact that at a certain point all these companies can't play nice enough to have a universal LED control system makes for one hell of a shit show.
 

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Not to say I was stalking, but a guy on Facebook replying to Mussels has it right..... Corsair made another Apple move. They are almost a cult, and the only way to make more money is to have current customers buy new toys.

I do not condone it, but as a public company now, there are many more demanding a cut of the profits, so you have to engineer ways to make that happen.

They are playing the odds here, if your case, cooler, ram, fans, mouse, keyboard, and headset are all corsair, many will step up and buy new not to deal with other software.
 
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Not to say I was stalking, but a guy on Facebook replying to Mussels has it right..... Corsair made another Apple move. They are almost a cult, and the only way to make more money is to have current customers buy new toys.

I do not condone it, but as a public company now, there are many more demanding a cut of the profits, so you have to engineer ways to make that happen.
The ironic part in all of that is that we all claim we have choice over buying their products, but then like sheep to a shepherd, always go buy the new of something every year.
 
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This is no new program with a new name, its a software update to the same program that just suddenly gave the middle finger to a bunch of their customers
They should rename it Far Cue with a $ sign and a laughing emote.
 

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Not to say I was stalking, but a guy on Facebook replying to Mussels has it right..... Corsair made another Apple move. They are almost a cult, and the only way to make more money is to have current customers buy new toys.

I do not condone it, but as a public company now, there are many more demanding a cut of the profits, so you have to engineer ways to make that happen.

They are playing the odds here, if your case, cooler, ram, fans, mouse, keyboard, and headset are all corsair, many will step up and buy new not to deal with other software.
the joys of adding some of the lifers here onto FB

i'm going off to play starcraft, as this has genuinely pissed me off. If i wish to keep my headphones, i cannot buy new corsair products and that is a DUMB move they've made
 
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Their hardware is great
In their first couple years of producing hardware, I would agree. Typically, if the name Corsair was on the PSU or RAM, you knew it was quality stuff. But then they switched OEMs, used cheaper designs and parts in their lower tier models and tried to live off their name. That never works (for very long).

They also started cutting corners in their quality control. I used to like Corsair cases, for example. In the beginning, they had good design and construction. But then we started seeing inconsistencies in build quality. I have seen more than one case that was not "true". That is, it did not have exactly 90° bends in the sheet metal. This resulted in only 3 of the 4 feet sitting firmly on the floor allowing the case to wobble. This can result in uneven pressures, and cause the motherboard to not sit flat on all the stand-offs, which, in turn, can cause undue stress at the motherboard mounting points. Not good.

The case bends not being "true" also meant the side panels were difficult to align and install properly. Note the shipping boxes these cases came in were in perfect condition suggesting they were not dropped, crushed or otherwise mishandled during transport.

We have also seen rough edges on the cut sheet metal where they should have been "finished". Typically these edges are rolled or ground down and smooth. But on these Corsairs, the edges were sharp and jagged and actually resulted in bloody knuckles. :( Not fun. Other Corsairs of the same model were fine - so again suggesting inconsistent quality control.

In all fairness, that was a couple years ago so things might have changed. But with a visible scar on at least one of my knuckles, I'm in no hurry to find out.
 

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Yes? iCue is corsairs software
I asked because i didn't get any notification about a new version, so i thought maybe Corsair Launched/released a new product named iCUE V4 :laugh:
 

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To be very honest, Im not the most patient person in the universe, so, I quit :))
See that was my hugest fear when my boards software wouldn't control them(despite the earlier version software clearly ID'd them, current version now doesn't even see them) I have read all the horror stories about iCue and was wary having to even install it. But touch wood I have only ever had to use it once, colour set, and uninstalled. Multple BIOS updates that always reset my boards colour but my RAM has stayed set and hopefully will remain that way...
 
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I've got a K83 keyboard for me media PC in the living room, running iCue on it is a pointless exercise, it supports it obviously, but the fact that it breaks the double tap and scrolling on the touch pad, kills the battery for no reason, and breaks dead zones on the analog stick, makes me not want to install it ever again.

Funny thing is, the default profile thats stored on the keyboard is actually a lot better than what iCue shoves in on it.
 
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missed the point here: it's not about them ending support for an older product, it's about them preventing you using it's existing software if you buy a newer product from them
icue is so bloated the installer is an openGL 3D program with youtube videos in it.

As an example logitech moved over to G hub - its got a shit reputation but they had SEPERATE programs so the old hardware continued to work just fine on the old software
More than just separate software for old hardware - they have separate, standalone, portable software for many functions on their NEW hardware, too. Logitech Onboard Memory Manager. I set the RGB LEDs, DPI, and hotkeys (including reprogramming one of the 8+ buttons on the mouse to act as the KB's "t" key for PTT/chat), all without installing any software, and without having to keep any junk running in the background.

All of the data is saved onto the mouse's onboard microcontroller (with its own built in flash), and I have never needed to touch the program since. Settings are the same and preserved when I used it on other computers, other OSes, and even things that are barely considered computers.
 
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In their first couple years of producing hardware, I would agree. Typically, if the name Corsair was on the PSU or RAM, you knew it was quality stuff. But then they switched OEMs, used cheaper designs and parts in their lower tier models and tried to live off their name. That never works (for very long).

They also started cutting corners in their quality control. I used to like Corsair cases, for example. In the beginning, they had good design and construction. But then we started seeing inconsistencies in build quality. I have seen more than one case that was not "true". That is, it did not have exactly 90° bends in the sheet metal. This resulted in only 3 of the 4 feet sitting firmly on the floor allowing the case to wobble. This can result in uneven pressures, and cause the motherboard to not sit flat on all the stand-offs, which, in turn, can cause undue stress at the motherboard mounting points. Not good.

The case bends not being "true" also meant the side panels were difficult to align and install properly. Note the shipping boxes these cases came in were in perfect condition suggesting they were not dropped, crushed or otherwise mishandled during transport.

We have also seen rough edges on the cut sheet metal where they should have been "finished". Typically these edges are rolled or ground down and smooth. But on these Corsairs, the edges were sharp and jagged and actually resulted in bloody knuckles. :( Not fun. Other Corsairs of the same model were fine - so again suggesting inconsistent quality control.

In all fairness, that was a couple years ago so things might have changed. But with a visible scar on at least one of my knuckles, I'm in no hurry to find out.
I should have specified, their keyboards are great (I edited the post). I agree with you on the other stuff. I'm picky about my hardware, I like what I like and their keyboards have been great performers for me.

I like logitech mice for the same reason, multiple drops on the floor and still going strong, and some of the lowest wireless latencies you can get (the new logitech unifying receiver is easily twice as fast as the previous gen).
 

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I asked because i didn't get any notification about a new version, so i thought maybe Corsair Launched/released a new product named iCUE V4 :laugh:
they did, as an update to V3 - hence the drama


I wasnt aware of logitech OMM, installed and Ghub is gone (i dont have logitech RGB devices, it was set and forget with my mice)
 
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Motherboard ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC (revision 1.02, BIOS/UEFI version P4.10)
Cooling EK-FB ASRock X470 Gaming K4 RGB Monoblock, EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 200 D5 PWM, EK-CoolStream PE 360
Memory Micron 18ASF2G72AZ-2G6D1 ECC DDR4-2666 (dual rank, 4 sticks, 64GB, OC to DDR4-3200)
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate
Storage Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe
Display(s) 2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount)
Case Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black
Power Supply Corsair RM750x
Mouse Logitech M570
Keyboard Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
Software Windows 10 Professional (64bit, version 19.09)
Benchmark Scores CBR20=9,538 (multi-core, stock) CBR23=24,074 (multi-core, stock)
Also, while I am not against the way it all went down (iCUE needed a lot of shit fixed in the older gens), but iCUE 4 is also W10 only ;)
Humm wonder if they dropped QT and will finally run a native 64-bit service, hopefully fix their timer resolution problem too.

They should rename it Far Cue with a $ sign and a laughing emote.
Just in, iCue rebranded as iCry. Will now break your heart and your wallet one year after purchase. :laugh:

.... I used to like Corsair cases, for example. In the beginning, they had good design and construction....
I almost got a Corsair case. It was a tossup and I ended up getting the 011D for a lower price instead.
 
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Location
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System Name Overlord Mk MXVI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master
Cooling Corsair H115i Pro
Memory 32GB Viper Steel 3600 DDR4 @ 3800MHz 16-19-16-19-36
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 2080 Gaming OC 8G
Storage 1TB WD Black NVMe (2018), 2TB Viper VPN100, 1TB WD Blue 3D NAND
Display(s) Asus PG27AQ
Case Corsair Carbide 275Q
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply Corsair RM750
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Wooting Two
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/33u9si

 

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Messages
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Location
Germany
System Name BlackWidow
Processor Intel i7 10700K
Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero
Cooling Custom Loop
Memory 32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s) EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s) Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s) I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard
Software Windows 10 Enterprise
Benchmark Scores My PC runs FiFA
Corsair: Upgrade to our latest improved iCue 4 V software with a new look for a better experience.
Me: No thanks, will keep the old Version.
 
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