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Why i'm boycotting corsair (iCue 4.x)

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Their keyboards are great but the drivers got all bloated after rgb became a thing. I disable most of their services manually, after installing the keyboard I only let icue run not any of the other processes cobblefucked onto the driver.

Just go into the folder they launch from by right clicking in task manager and open file location, rename the exe to exenope or literally anything added after exe and it'll prevent them from running.

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I'm using the v3 software with a k57 and a k70 rgb with custom rgb profiles on both. Lame if v4 doesn't support them. Also lame if you're forced to choose.
this is what i did too
 

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I just use it to set up profiles and then close it and make sure it's not booting with windows.....
That's what i do too, still using the old version till it works.
 
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After sending in a keyboard that was defective only to get one back that was even worse, then shortly after, sending in a dead Survivor USB drive only to get a dead one back, I stopped even entertaining the idea of buying anything from Corsair.
 

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Heres an update from a user on their forums showing that these devices can genuinely work, and its just an artificial limit to up sales



These devices work, they've just been blacklisted based on how old they are (the dongle serial number/revision, in this guys case)
 
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Yep. Corsair gamur crap can go where the sun doesn't shine. I love how this makes selecting product easier. I can just straight up not even look at a bunch of brands and the list is growing, but still have lots of options left. And in the meantime there are new companies rising from the bottom, starting small and pioneering new stuff that's not copy pasted from whatever leads popularity charts.

Thanks, Corsair for simplifying the world a little bit for us.

Maybe its me but all I ever knew that was worth looking at from them was a keyboard and a few PSUs, plus a handful of cases of yesteryear. And apart from the cases, they were great bang/buck choices that weren't shit, but there was always something better around.

TL DR ; "You won't be missed"
 
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Not to mention the issues with Corsair RAM and Ryzen.
You'd think by now they would have fixed what's been going on with what others have been accomplishing without any real problems.

It's like Corsair has turned a blind eye, not only to all that but now doing this ain't helping their bottom line either.
 

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Oh god another update:

Users have found that firmware updates meant for icue 4.x break 3.x compatibility

One user went to 4.10, it upgraded his mouse firmware. He noticed his AIO was no longer working and dropped to 3.x... and the mouse didnt work in it, because of the update.
 
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Replaced my last piece of Corsair product today. :rockout:
 
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I had nothing but issues with iCue the past couple years It's almost as trash-tier as Asus software. But yeah, no more corsair, no more issues.
 

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Replaced my last piece of Corsair product today. :rockout:
I just gotta replace my node pro and i'm done.

Need a software powered fan controller, that remembers settings in hardware.
 

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3 out of 4 Corsair products that I own are now obsolete with iCue v4. Great job Corsair. You managed to piss me off real nice. Installed the update with no warnings that this was about to happen. Thought something was wrong with my hardware.
 
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I have felt for a few years now Corsair was overrated honestly. Only owned one Corsair product my entire life, one of their cases, which I also feel are overrated. Don't get me wrong it's not bad, I like my case, but I have found others since then at better prices that just aesthetically look better to me and look like they have better cable management.

I'm actually looking at a new case lately... really want to upgrade mine since the sound dampening foam really doesn't do all that good of a job, plus I want to lower temps... it was a good idea initially, but I didn't think it through...
 
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2015 and 2016 peripherals are old?? WTH are they thinking?? Thanks for this info. I'll be sure to stay away from Corsair too. I'm also staying away from Logitech's G series lineup, both keyboard or mouse.
I have felt for a few years now Corsair was overrated honestly. Only owned one Corsair product my entire life, one of their cases, which I also feel are overrated. Don't get me wrong it's not bad, I like my case, but I have found others since then at better prices that just aesthetically look better to me and look like they have better cable management.

I'm actually looking at a new case lately... really want to upgrade mine since the sound dampening foam really doesn't do all that good of a job, plus I want to lower temps... it was a good idea initially, but I didn't think it through...

Corsair is overrated and overpriced. They've been focusing too much on RGB like a maniac, RGB here, RGB that.
I've always wanted a Corsair keyboard since K70 Rapidfire era, but after I made money by myself and could afford one, I realized there are better keyboards out there, so I never own Corsair products at all, even their PSU or RAM.

I love Phanteks so much, I have the Evolve ATX TG. My top 3 brands for cases are: Phanteks, Be Quiet!, and Fractal. You should definitely check them out.
 
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I've only ever purchased Corsair sammy RAM and non RGB fans. I'd heard about the issues wth iCue but just put it down to crap software.
What they've done is based on greed, nothing more.
 
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2015 and 2016 peripherals are old?? WTH are they thinking?? Thanks for this info. I'll be sure to stay away from Corsair too. I'm also staying away from Logitech's G series lineup, both keyboard or mouse.


Corsair is overrated and overpriced. They've been focusing too much on RGB like a maniac, RGB here, RGB that.
I've always wanted a Corsair keyboard since K70 Rapidfire era, but after I made money by myself and could afford one, I realized there are better keyboards out there, so I never own Corsair products at all, even their PSU or RAM.

I love Phanteks so much, I have the Evolve ATX TG. My top 3 brands for cases are: Phanteks, Be Quiet!, and Fractal. You should definitely check them out.

Since discovering Phanteks last year, when I bought the mATX version of the Evolv, they've been at the top of my list when it comes to a new case. Had the Evolv mATX (and loved it) and then when I made the move to ATX, got the Eclipse P360X and while I really liked it (light bars on the sides of the front panel are so pretty) it was a bit cramped and there was no way in hell I was going to be able to top mount the Liquid Freezer II (and I wanted to avoid a front mount like the plague, because it gets insanely dusty here in the summer and I clean my rig enough as it is) so...I moved up and recently got the P500A. I love it, honestly. Plenty of room, amazing cable management, amazing airflow. I was initially worried about not having a dust filter on the front panel, but the way they made the mesh on the 500A so fine there's really no need for a separate filter.
 
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yes i agree icue v4 is a crap piece of softwear since updating to v4 my ram rbg is well messed at first boot in the morrning after being turned of at the socket all night it shows 3 sticks red and one green untill i reboot then it works fine for the rest of the day , it runs my psu,k70 keyboard and M65 mouse fine its just the ram.
 
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yes i agree icue v4 is a crap piece of softwear since updating to v4 my ram rbg is well messed at first boot in the morrning after being turned of at the socket all night it shows 3 sticks red and one green untill i reboot then it works fine for the rest of the day , it runs my psu,k70 keyboard and M65 mouse fine its just the ram.
No RGB......No problems :)
 
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With great difficulty my friend :)
Sounds like a good name for a new company manufacturing computer parts.
"Great Difficulty"! With our products, there's nothing you can accomplish without Great Difficulty. If the product installation process doesn't have you hurling it against a wall, our driver updates will certainly drive you nuts and bring you to tears! We bring the ass-rippage to Threadrippers and beat the hell out of Intel with our punishing products! Guaranteed to work with enough aggravation to dissatisfy any. **Not recommended for unstable individuals.
 
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Sounds like a good name for a new company manufacturing computer parts.
"Great Difficulty"! With our products, there's nothing you can accomplish without Great Difficulty. If the product installation process doesn't have you hurling it against a wall, our driver updates will certainly drive you nuts and bring you to tears! We bring the ass-rippage to Threadrippers and beat the hell out of Intel with our punishing products! Guaranteed to work with enough aggravation to dissatisfy any. **Not recommended for unstable individuals.
It was just another money making exercise IMO. Break it, extract more money from punters, sorry consumers. They don't seem to give a fig either even when caught in the act. Is this the race to the bottom they want. Because they, like others in this industry seem to be going about it like they want to destroy their own companies.
Or is it that people don't give a fug if they are screwed over any longer. Mad..
 
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It was just another money making exercise IMO. Break it, extract more money from punters, sorry consumers. They don't seem to give a fig either even when caught in the act. Is this the race to the bottom they want. Because they, like others in this industry seem to be going about it like they want to destroy their own companies.
Or is it that people don't give a fug if they are screwed over any longer. Mad..
Probably more of an issue that they overthink too much stuff and end up "over-engineering", making something more difficult than it needs to be.
Its like they're all racing to design the first bucket filled with holes that can carry water without leaking. Hopefully they're not in any way affiliated with designing toilets for the space station.
 

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iCue 3.x now prompts users for an update, which uninstalls 3.x and installs 4.x with no warning...

Corsair forums getting more and more pissed off users every day
 
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Since discovering Phanteks last year, when I bought the mATX version of the Evolv, they've been at the top of my list when it comes to a new case. Had the Evolv mATX (and loved it) and then when I made the move to ATX, got the Eclipse P360X and while I really liked it (light bars on the sides of the front panel are so pretty) it was a bit cramped and there was no way in hell I was going to be able to top mount the Liquid Freezer II (and I wanted to avoid a front mount like the plague, because it gets insanely dusty here in the summer and I clean my rig enough as it is) so...I moved up and recently got the P500A. I love it, honestly. Plenty of room, amazing cable management, amazing airflow. I was initially worried about not having a dust filter on the front panel, but the way they made the mesh on the 500A so fine there's really no need for a separate filter.

Your cases history with Phanteks is interesting. I don't know if I can go downgrade to other cases, even from Phanteks, from Evolv ATX TG. The build quality is astounding.
My only complain was the restrictive front panel, it creates negative air pressure with default fan config. But I managed to solve it with less than $5 simple modification. P500A is also a nice case though. Next time I change case, I'd like to give Fractal Design a try, I love their Define 7.
 
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