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Why i'm boycotting corsair (iCue 4.x)

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I can tolerate corsair fans since i can wire their fan hub into standard ARGB, but from here on... nah.

They want you to replace all their products within a 4 year life cycle
Corsair fans are nothing like anything in the wide variety of Delta fans. I've got 8 120 x 120 x 25 150 cfm babies on their way to me from China at the moment. I have a box full of 120mm Corsair fans with bad bearings, junk fans. I only use double ball bearing server fans now.
 

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Corsair fans are nothing like anything in the wide variety of Delta fans. I've got 8 120 x 120 x 25 150 cfm babies on their way to me from China at the moment. I have a box full of 120mm Corsair fans with bad bearings, junk fans. I only use double ball bearing server fans now.
you sound like someone who enjoys hearing loss
(The ML120/ML140 fans were incredibly quiet when they didnt fail, but i'm definitely done with corsair now seeing them double down on this)
 
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I'm close to 70 years old, have severe tinnitus already (loud music from playing in bands, race cars with open exhausts and guns) so I'd rather hear fans spinning than what sounds like a constant swarm of locusts. The two 252cfm monsters temporarily in use in my latest build are a bit overbearing though so I went with meeker 150cfm units. They only cost $8 each including free shipping as an added bonus.
 
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3. It's still not compatible with HWinfo and requires you to disable sensors, if you have a commander pro
I typically keep iCue closed so I can still see the Commander Pro sensors in HWinfo.
If iCue4 is not running can you still use HWinfo for the sensors or are you saying the Commander Pro sensors are all nuked?
 

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I typically keep iCue closed so I can still see the Commander Pro sensors in HWinfo.
If iCue4 is not running can you still use HWinfo for the sensors or are you saying the Commander Pro sensors are all nuked?
if you run HWinfo with icue 3.x or 4.x without disabling the corsair sensors, it totally breaks the commander pro (it freezes on current settings with no RPM readings) and it does NOT recover until you do a manual service reset, even restarting the PC wont fix it

They havent fixed it, they dont want to fix it - they say dont use hwinfo and corsair on the same PC
 
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(The ML120/ML140 fans were incredibly quiet when they didnt fail, but i'm definitely done with corsair now seeing them double down on this)

Are those the same fans that come with the H100i RGB PRO XT? If they are, I can't stand them, especially when gaming. Had to plug them into my board's CPU_FAN and CPU_FAN_OPT headers because they wouldn't work plugged into the cables that are on the block.

if you run HWinfo with icue 3.x or 4.x without disabling the corsair sensors, it totally breaks the commander pro (it freezes on current settings with no RPM readings) and it does NOT recover until you do a manual service reset, even restarting the PC wont fix it

They havent fixed it, they dont want to fix it - they say dont use hwinfo and corsair on the same PC

The more I read about this, the more I want to sell my AIO and get something different...
 
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if you run HWinfo with icue 3.x or 4.x without disabling the corsair sensors, it totally breaks the commander pro (it freezes on current settings with no RPM readings) and it does NOT recover until you do a manual service reset, even restarting the PC wont fix it

They havent fixed it, they dont want to fix it - they say dont use hwinfo and corsair on the same PC
I already wrote that I haven't bought any corsair crap in years, but dammit let me double down on that. With all that you are highlighting, it's like comedy gold. And you haven't even mentioned their tramp stamp fiasco.

I had one of the early K95 LED KB's and it kept failing with LED's dying left and right. I rma'd it a handful of times. Not only did the replacements keep failing but they sent me the tramp stamp ones too! I finally emailed them and complained that I'm losing a lot of money playing this moronic rma game with them, and to stop sending me tramp stamp models. Thank the gods, I recieved the new RGB model which fixed their lame LED issues and no tramp stamp! That was the last corsair product I've bought.
 
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Still rocking no RGB in 2021 here. What's there not to like? Cable clutter, more points/chances of electrical fires, buggy software, bloatware, malware, ...
have rgb on my pc
just some BLUE fans and they are auto blue they are connected to moolex so no software
thats the kind of rgb i love
 
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if you run HWinfo with icue 3.x or 4.x without disabling the corsair sensors, it totally breaks the commander pro (it freezes on current settings with no RPM readings) and it does NOT recover until you do a manual service reset, even restarting the PC wont fix it

They havent fixed it, they dont want to fix it - they say dont use hwinfo and corsair on the same PC
Yep that's a known issue and also the reason I won't buy any more commander pro.
I guess it's not clear to me however if you have iCue 4 closed, will HWinfo continue to pickup the sensors without conflict as it did when iCue 3 was closed?
 
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Are those the same fans that come with the H100i RGB PRO XT? If they are, I can't stand them, especially when gaming. Had to plug them into my board's CPU_FAN and CPU_FAN_OPT headers because they wouldn't work plugged into the cables that are on the block.



The more I read about this, the more I want to sell my AIO and get something different...
Unless you're obsessed with having RGB in your AIO Arctic just announced all of their Liquid Freezer II AIO's now have a 6 year warranty. Better pump, radiator and a longer warranty to back them up (but no RGB) plus they cost far less as well. The 280mm is $109 on Amazon at the moment.
 
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The more I read about this, the more I want to sell my AIO and get something different...
Yea I'd like to find a good replacement for commander pro with software that doesn't suck, but for now gonna run it until it dies.
 

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Same - running mine with a saved static fan speed on the ports, and unable to use any of the fancy features because of the risk of it cutting out

I used to have it fan off at idle, but then it crashed out and i ran my system without any CPU fans for a bit and that taught me a lesson about trusting corsair software
 
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And you haven't even mentioned their tramp stamp fiasco.

I had one of the early K95 LED KB's and it kept failing with LED's dying left and right. I rma'd it a handful of times. Not only did the replacements keep failing but they sent me the tramp stamp ones too! I finally emailed them and complained that I'm losing a lot of money playing this moronic rma game with them, and to stop sending me tramp stamp models. Thank the gods, I recieved the new RGB model which fixed their lame LED issues and no tramp stamp! That was the last corsair product I've bought.

OK, I'm genuinely curious -- what's this "tramp stamp" fiasco all about?

Unless you're obsessed with having RGB in your AIO Arctic just announced all of their Liquid Freezer II AIO's now have a 6 year warranty. Better pump, radiator and a longer warranty to back them up (but no RGB) plus they cost far less as well. The 280mm is $109 on Amazon at the moment.

The only RGB on my Corsair AIO is on the pump block (and it ALWAYS defaults to rainbow spiral every time I turn my PC on. Every. Damn. Time.) The fans themselves aren't RGB though. Instead, I have two Phanteks Halo Lux Digital shrouds over them.

I wouldn't consider myself a person who must RGB all teh things! so the fact that Arctic's AIO's don't have it doesn't bother me much. And $109 isn't a bad price at all. Unfortunately, my case can only take a 240mm top mounted radiator (and I refuse to do front mount lol)
 
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OK, I'm genuinely curious -- what's this "tramp stamp" fiasco all about?



The only RGB on my Corsair AIO is on the pump block (and it ALWAYS defaults to rainbow spiral every time I turn my PC on. Every. Damn. Time.) The fans themselves aren't RGB though. Instead, I have two Phanteks Halo Lux Digital shrouds over them.

I wouldn't consider myself a person who must RGB all teh things! so the fact that Arctic's AIO's don't have it doesn't bother me much. And $109 isn't a bad price at all. Unfortunately, my case can only take a 240mm top mounted radiator (and I refuse to do front mount lol)
Their Liquid Freezer II 240 is $99 on Amazon at the moment.
 
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Oh my gawd, it DOES look like a tramp stamp! :roll: :roll:
 
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I been boycotting RGB since Day 1. If you are going to spend three weeks building a custom water cooled PC with cables you sleeved, acrylic tubing, etc. ...don't see the point of distracting from that with bunch of cheap flashie lightie things. Subtle white LED strip to highlight the build quality is more desirable to my view. I do have an acrylic case with a miniature lit XMas tree I put in seasonally.

Didn't wanna cover the page with big picture windows ... so copy paste the links and delete the space between http and s to view if interested

Imagine RGB on some of these ..... Ugh

http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVPehMaHgM8
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Boris made me wanna do a build with with multiple loops and different tinted vodkas.... complete with spigot on front panel and rocks glass on desk

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HI,
Corsair boycott started long ago for myself got me into custom water loops to get away from their aio crapware lol
 

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I been boycotting RGB since Day 1. If you are going to spend three weeks building a custom water cooled PC with cables you sleeved, acrylic tubing, etc. ...don't see the point of distracting from that with bunch of cheap flashie lightie things. Subtle white LED strip to highlight the build quality is more desirable to my view. I do have an acrylic case with a miniature lit XMas tree I put in seasonally.

Didn't wanna cover the page with big picture windows ... so copy paste the links and delete the space between http and s to view if interested

Imagine RGB on some of these ..... Ugh

http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVPehMaHgM8
http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABjem_G3YoY
http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKLHBxrLCBc
http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5YMYsJbF8M

Boris made me wanna do a build with with multiple loops and different tinted vodkas.... complete with spigot on front panel and rocks glass on desk

http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYTJfLyo_vE

IMO, if you do it right without a total overkill of RGB it can enhance the look of a PC. Which is why I love Lian Lis approach with their UNI SLxxx fans. Its more of just a RGB accent strip, the blades dont diffuse the lighting etc.

And if you use frosted tubing, you better have some lighting to make it glow.
 

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this isn't really the thread to be going on about a hatred of RGB in general
 
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I've updated too, my mouse and keyboard are listed so no problem for me. I just hope this iCue 4 will be better than the 3rd version. Anyway it's done yet.
 

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icue is pretty terrible, I use Corsair link, which works like a charm to control my rmi, id suggest to do the same if your device is supported by Corsair link. Otherwise, yeah maybe better to boycott them.

You can if you don't own a Tempered glass Case.
Why? I have tempered glass and the only RGB is my GPU and it's already light blue by default so exactly how I would have set it . There's enough lights in my pc that it's not totally dark anyways, also I like that the parts are mostly black, I feel RGB would clash hard with that esthetic.
 
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iCUE Forever!!!!!!!!!!! I just use it to set up profiles and then close it and make sure it's not booting with windows..... So far V4 seems to be a bit more lightweight than V3 usage sits around 1% 99% of the time while it's up vs around 4-5% with V3 at least for me........ I tend to update my fans/case/cooling very frequently so V4 compatibility isn't an issue for me I guess. I get it though still a bad move by Corsair in general they should make sure at the very least products from the last 4-5 years are fully supported.


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