Why the f*ck not? - a bad ideas only build, by Mussels!

Mussels · Aug 3, 2020

Right... so it wont work as a primary GPU (code 43) but if its the SECONDARY (IGP set as primary) it works fine?

how odd

lexluthermiester · Aug 3, 2020

Mussels said:
Right... so it wont work as a primary GPU (code 43) but if its the SECONDARY (IGP set as primary) it works fine?

how odd

You're still getting the code 43 error?

Mussels · Aug 3, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
You're still getting the code 43 error?

When the GPU is installed but i'm booting off the IGP as the primary, i can switch to the 780 and it works fine.

However if the 780 is the primary GPU in any system, its code 43. It's rather strange.

lexluthermiester · Aug 3, 2020

Mussels said:
When the GPU is installed but i'm booting off the IGP as the primary, i can switch to the 780 and it works fine.

However if the 780 is the primary GPU in any system, its code 43. It's rather strange.

Interesting. That was the original error you were having wasn't it?

Mussels · Aug 4, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Interesting. That was the original error you were having wasn't it?

at first it would seem working and black screen on 3D, then i got errors loading games, then i got code 43.
I'm trying a BIOS flash, but i get subsystem ID mismatch on all the ones i've found (windforce 780OC) - and the giga utility to flash the BIOSes doesnt load

lexluthermiester · Aug 4, 2020

Mussels said:
at first it would seem working and black screen on 3D, then i got errors loading games, then i got code 43.
I'm trying a BIOS flash, but i get subsystem ID mismatch on all the ones i've found (windforce 780OC) - and the giga utility to flash the BIOSes doesnt load

Damn, I thought reflowing it would help.

biffzinker · Aug 4, 2020

The flux probably didn’t make it all the way into middle BGA contacts of the GPU.

lexluthermiester · Aug 4, 2020

biffzinker said:
The flux probably didn’t make it all the way into middle BGA contacts of the GPU.

I was thinking that after looking at the pictures of it being applied. I looks like there might have been air pocket trapped under the die.

@Mussels
Feel like one more go in the oven? If so, clean the board off completely with 90%+ IPA and then apply the flux, generously, on just two ajoining sides of the GPU die. This will allow the flux to "soak" in under the die as the heat melts it. It's important to keep the board perfectly flat though. What do you have to loose really...

Mussels · Aug 4, 2020

i'll give it another shot when i'm bored, sure

Nuckles56 · Aug 4, 2020

We'll be all looking forwards to the results of such silliness @Mussels

lexluthermiester · Aug 4, 2020

Nuckles56 said:
We'll be all looking forwards to the results of such silliness @Mussels

Not silliness. Reflowing does work. It's a service I provide to clients and it works much more often than it doesn't. I've permemanantly revived XB360's, PS3's and the infamous NVidia laptop GPU's. The key is understanding the problem, using the proper tools & supplies, using the right methods and having patience.

Mussels · Aug 4, 2020

the silliness is my total lack of concern for doing the job properly the first time.

Valantar · Aug 4, 2020

Mussels said:
the silliness is my total lack of concern for doing the job properly the first time.

Would I be mistaken expecting the same lack of concern on the second and third attempts?

Mussels · Aug 4, 2020

Valantar said:
Would I be mistaken expecting the same lack of concern on the second and third attempts?

the less i care, the more entertaining it gets.

Valantar · Aug 4, 2020

Mussels said:
the less i care, the more entertaining it gets.

Exactly!

Nuckles56 · Aug 4, 2020

lexluthermiester said:
Not silliness. Reflowing does work. It's a service I provide to clients and it works much more often than it doesn't. I've permemanantly revived XB360's, PS3's and the infamous NVidia laptop GPU's. The key is understanding the problem, using the proper tools & supplies, using the right methods and having patience.

I wasn't casting aspersions about reflowing in general, just Mussel's efforts with it, as I know reflowing stuff is a great way to fix it if you can.

Mussels · Aug 7, 2020

Okay i have a really bad idea for this, what temp would a GPU need to be for the reflow?

Nuckles56 · Aug 7, 2020

Mussels said:
Okay i have a really bad idea for this, what temp would a GPU need to be for the reflow?

It's over 200c I believe so I don't think it's going to work sadly

biffzinker · Aug 7, 2020

Mussels said:
Okay i have a really bad idea for this, what temp would a GPU need to be for the reflow?

Don’t know if this helps:
The temperature of reflow zone will pass melting temperature during this zone with solder paste melted to liquid. During this phase, the temperature of 183℃ above should be maintained for 60 to 90 seconds. Either too short time or too long time possibly causes quality issues of soldering. Thus, it’s extremely essential to control the time span at the temperature of 220±10℃. Normally, the time should be controlled within the range from 10 to 20 seconds.

Mussels · Aug 7, 2020

Oh, i just have a really bad idea i'll try before the rain hits. dont mind me.

This idea is VERY likely to kill the card, should be fun

Nuckles56 · Aug 7, 2020

So long as there's an amazing video, we'll be happy

Mussels · Aug 7, 2020

How about a nice GIF? i lacked enough hands

IMG_20200807_130800_exported_stabilized_7382878079577906461.gif

Nuckles56 · Aug 7, 2020

That's definitely good enough for me

biffzinker · Aug 7, 2020

Mussels said:
How about a nice GIF? i lacked enough hands

Is the fire for effect? SO what about the card?

Mussels · Aug 7, 2020

biffzinker said:
Is the fire for effect? SO what about the card?

oh no it genuinely caught on fire

i washed it for a bit with some dishes, and now its drying off.

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