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Wich is the best clocker? ATi cards.

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My pal is planning to get a new graphicscard, and hes choosing between x850xt and x800xt.
I know x800 har a bit tighter memory timings wich could indicate its mems wont clock too good compared to x850 but wich card would give the most performance when maxed? He will peltcool it of course (though only with a 80w one) and put copper sinks on the rams or make waterblocks for them too.

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hm when he can achieve a x850 xt so he has 16 pipes it will be faster with a watercooling clokced to max but when he can only get a x850 pro then take the x800xl

hm my tipp would be a x800xt will be good to
 

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My question was is x800xt or x850xt better when clocked to the max, maybe I was a bit unclear :)
 
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A lot will depend on the heat it produces. They will both be good overclockers, as to the best I couldn't tell you. With peltier cooling you going to be able to go high and you'll be able to volmod it good too. I'd go with X850 because its a newer card and runs at higher stock speeds.

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djbbenn> Yeah, thats what we're thinking too, but I heard that the x800 series will give higher benchmark scores due to tighter memorytimings and my friend really loves bragging with good benches :)
 
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As I said before I couldn't tell you exactly which one is better, I'd be making it up. I know down at Texas when they had the overclocking comps, they had a x850 running at 800MHz core. That was with LN2 cooling mind you. Thats fast, that will set records. The mem timings wont make that huge of a difference, thye will make a difference but not as much as core speed. Now the X800 will get a high overclock, but where the X850 are already running at a high clock, they got a advantage. But you will probably get a higher one on the X800 but you can't forget about the stock speed of the X850. I have a X800Pro and on stock cooling I am at 540/560, no errors with Atitool. Thats the stock speeds of the X850XT PE in core and close to it in mem. So I'd personnly go with the X850 due to the newer core and higher stock speed. With good cooling I'm sure you'll get a great overclock. ;) Both cards will be great though.

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I agree with Djbbenn. If you can afford the X850 XT than go with it. I seriously doubt you will be disapointed, and if your friend loves to brag I doubt anything else would give him more rights than an overclocked X850 XT PE :cool:. Personally that is my dream card. :D
 
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My dream card was the X850, but now with the R520 series coming out...my outlook kind of changed :rolleyes:

But as Thermopylae said, if you wont bragging rights I think the X850 will do just that. :D

-Dan
 

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more expensive more better @ this :mad:
 
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Ya, you get what you pay for.

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:D ore u make what u pay for (x800pro vivo---> xt or xtpe)
 
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Ya good point, but thats if it works. :p

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But the pro vivo doesnt have 1.6 rams does it?

I guess he'll go with the x850xt pe then. He got a great job for the summer that fucking bastard (and I didnt get one at all :'( )
He's planning to get ocz mems, pentium m 2ghz + converter and p4c800dlx and x850xt pe and all he plays is quake3 arena.
Funny guy 8)
 
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Yes the Pro Vivo does 1.6ns mem. Some don't but most do. He's going to get all that to play quake 3?
Overkill...but great if he plays anything else and brags :p

-Dan
 

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djbbenn said:
Yes the Pro Vivo does 1.6ns mem. Some don't but most do. He's going to get all that to play quake 3?
Overkill...but great if he plays anything else and brags :p

-Dan
We have a saying that goes "if you're not overkill you're as manly as a little girl" so he has to be 8)

Didnt know pro vivo had 1.6 rams but hes decided to get the x850, thanks for all the help guys!