will this work...?

[Rol87]

hey i was wondering if this parts are good i just want something not too expensive but yet something that will be able to hold some music and to surfer the net. I am not a gamer. This will be my first build. I need some feedback.
thanks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827106057
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822144701
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820134044
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131048
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819116004
http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835200026

 

[Ripper3]

Even not being a gamer, I'd recommend doubling up on the RAM. XP will run fine on 512MB, but 1GB will make it just that much faster when multi-tasking. Have you thought about case, and power supply and graphics card? That motherboard doesn't have on-board.
A 7300GT is nice and cheap, and if you ever do decide to whip out an old game, it should handle it well enough.
For a case, it's mostly personal preference, but don't bother with one supplied with a PSU, the PSU will be better off in the trash than in your PC.
For a PSU, I'd say a 350W PSU should be your minimum. I saw a cheap Tagan 330W and 400W before, good quality, low price.

 

[Rol87]

for the case got one picked as for the psu was going to use the one from the case just till i have more $. and for the graphics card dont know what to go for.

 

[unsmart]

I would recommend a AMD system if your on a tight budget. You can get a AM2 dualcore and a mobo with on board vid in your price range or less.

 

[Rol87]

I was thinking about getting an AMD but this is were i dont know if AMDs are as good as intel

 

[Ripper3]

Athlon 64s tend to beat Pentium 4s, but they struggle against Core 2s, so an Athlon X2 would be better than the Pentium 4.
A 3800+ EE would be low power and still pretty quick. Should be cheap too.
As for motherboard, one based on an nForce 430 chipset, I think it is, with on-board GeForce 6100 video, can be had for low cost.
The memory for AM2 is DDR2 as well, so 1GB of DDR2 should do nicely. If going with on-board graphics, or graphics cards with HyperMemory or TurboCache, at least 1GB is recommended, since the graphics card will share the system RAM.

 

[freaksavior]

dont buy a p4
get the following instead

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116036
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116052
2x 2512mb ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220070
Better hdd and more storage http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148140 for $5
CPU cooler (lap it and it's a fantastic cooler) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

that would be a good rig. the e21XX or very oc-able cpu's so it could become a nice rig very quickly

 

[Rol87]

ok how about this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103751 CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820134116 RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131014 Mother

 

[keakar]

this should be perfect for you, it has onboard video and you can get the amd 4600 windsor 2.4ghz cpu with it as a combo deal for only $202 so check it out. i would not recommend you use the crappy 250watt psu they give you.

ASUS V3-M2NC61S AMD Socket AM2 AMD Sempron/Athlon 64/Athlon X2 up to 5200+ NVIDIA GeForce 6100 4 x 240Pin GeForce 6100 Barebone - Retail $125

http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16856110073

 

[Thermopylae_480]

If you're on a budget you can skimp on the processor if all you will be doing is surfing the internet and listening to music.

Get a Celeron http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039
Or an Athlon 64 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103029

These all have more than enough processing power to accomplish what you want to do, there is simply no reason that you would need the processing power that some of the other mentioned processors provide, you won't even use these to there capability. If you can find a cheaper processor go for it. Pentium 4s are fine for this, trust me I use one every day. People forget that the older technologies are fine when you're not gaming.

You can surf the web and listen to music on a Pentium III. Unless you're planning on playing 20 songs at once while surfing 30 web pages. I don't see why you should get anything but the most inexpensive processor you can find.

Same goes for graphics card. If all you're going to do is surf the web and listen to music the only thing you need is the most inexpensive thing that will give you a display.

 

[Wile E]

If you're on a budget you can skimp on the processor if all you will be doing is surfing the internet and listening to music.

Get a Celeron http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039
Or an Athlon 64 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103029

These all have more than enough processing power to accomplish what you want to do, there is simply no reason that you would need the processing power that some of the other mentioned processors provide, you won't even use these to there capability. If you can find a cheaper processor go for it. Pentium 4s are fine for this, trust me I use one every day. People forget that the older technologies are fine when you're not gaming.

You can surf the web and listen to music on a Pentium III. Unless you're planning on playing 20 songs at once while surfing 30 web pages. I don't see why you should get anything but the most inexpensive processor you can find.

Same goes for graphics card. If all you're going to do is surf the web and listen to music the only thing you need is the most inexpensive thing that will give you a display.

I mostly agree with you, but i think spending the extra small amount on a low end dual core would be a wise investment. A64 X2 3600+ Brisbanes can be had for around the same price as the single core you listed.

 

[Darknova]

A basic PC, you want a cheap CPU, an AM2 3600 or 3800 will be perfect. 1Gb of RAM. a cheap graphics card (i still wouldn't go onboard even for a basic pc, but thats my opinion), and a decent PSU, no matter what the PC, if the PSU goes it can take out your whole system, which is a lot more costly than investing in a better PSU to start with.

 

[freaksavior]

If you're on a budget you can skimp on the processor if all you will be doing is surfing the internet and listening to music.

Get a Celeron http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116039
Or an Athlon 64 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103029

These all have more than enough processing power to accomplish what you want to do, there is simply no reason that you would need the processing power that some of the other mentioned processors provide, you won't even use these to there capability. If you can find a cheaper processor go for it. Pentium 4s are fine for this, trust me I use one every day. People forget that the older technologies are fine when you're not gaming.

You can surf the web and listen to music on a Pentium III. Unless you're planning on playing 20 songs at once while surfing 30 web pages. I don't see why you should get anything but the most inexpensive processor you can find.

Same goes for graphics card. If all you're going to do is surf the web and listen to music the only thing you need is the most inexpensive thing that will give you a display.

i agree,

I mostly agree with you, but i think spending the extra small amount on a low end dual core would be a wise investment. A64 X2 3600+ Brisbanes can be had for around the same price as the single core you listed.

and i also agree.

it would imho be a retarded decision to buy a single core proc regardless of what your using it for. So dual core, yes!!! amd is cheaper atm so it may be smarter to get amd.

onboard gpu, eh not recommended they always suck up resources. you can get a x1600 pro for $50. or something a little "worse" for less

 

[keakar]

how about this bare bones kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103749

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+(65W) Windsor 2.4GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail $97
and getting the bare bones combo deal gives you a $20 discount so the cpu only costs you $77

ASUS V3-M2NC61S AMD Socket AM2 AMD Sempron/Athlon 64/Athlon X2 up to 5200+ NVIDIA GeForce 6100 4 x 240Pin GeForce 6100 Barebone - Retail $125

the board has good onboard grafics for your needs and will work fine since you dont play games, plus its built in so no video card is needed but you can easily add one later if you want. with a bare bones kit you get a computer case with the motherboard and they include a crappy 250watt psu but i wouldnt use it, i would get another one.

the combo price is only $192 and he has everything he needs but the ram and the psu

 

[Thermopylae_480]

i agree,



and i also agree.

it would imho be a retarded decision to buy a single core proc regardless of what your using it for. So dual core, yes!!! amd is cheaper atm so it may be smarter to get amd.

onboard gpu, eh not recommended they always suck up resources. you can get a x1600 pro for $50. or something a little "worse" for less

Why is it "retarded" to save a few bucks and get a single core? Why do you need a dual core for those two activities? I don't understand? Maybe I need to experience a dual core, I'm stuck with my P4 .

 

[Wile E]

Why is it "retarded" to save a few bucks and get a single core? Why do you need a dual core for those two activities? I don't understand? Maybe I need to experience a dual core, I'm stuck with my P4 .

I don't think that single core sucks, it's just that with more and more things becoming multi threaded, spending the few extra dollars dual will extend the life of his computer a little longer.

And yes, you need to experience dual core, it will change the way you use your computer. lol

 

[Thermopylae_480]

I don't think that single core sucks, it's just that with more and more things becoming multi threaded, spending the few extra dollars dual will extend the life of his computer a little longer.

And yes, you need to experience dual core, it will change the way you use your computer. lol

Want to lend, errr give, me a few hundred for a new motherboard and processor?

 

[Wile E]

Want to lend, errr give, me a few hundred for a new motherboard and processor?

lol. If i had it, I would do it happily, Thermo.

 

[niko084]

IMO-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827106057
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128062
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037
If you want an aftermarket cooler-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

 

[Thermopylae_480]

lol. If i had it, I would do it happily, Thermo.

If you win the lottery keep me in mind.

Sorry for mucking up your thread Rol87, we'll get back on topic now.

 

[niko084]

I don't think that single core sucks, it's just that with more and more things becoming multi threaded, spending the few extra dollars dual will extend the life of his computer a little longer.

And yes, you need to experience dual core, it will change the way you use your computer. lol

Ya it will..... It will make you lock your computer up more and more and more.....

I got into the dual core thing, and started going crazy expecting WAY too much from it after a bit.... Ohh well all in fun though... 6 game clients, 4 messengers, music with effects, virus scan, defrag..... Lol not really but I was asking for it a lot.

Dual core is the way to go, even the cheap ones are better than that old P4.

 

[Thermopylae_480]

Unfortunately, I'm more concerned on where I'll get money for food and school bills than PC parts. Makes me sad. Someday though... I'll build a new PC. Maybe when I graduate?

 

[JrRacinFan]

IMO-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827106057
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128062
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037
If you want an aftermarket cooler-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

That's a nice build you got going there Niko. IMHO, That right there is the way to go, Rol87. Very upgradeable but you would have to spend the pennies you saved on a vidcard.

With in that regards Radeon X1600PRO 128MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card -OR- GeForce 7300GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card. Those right there will give "older games at will". Heck, the 7300GT without FSAA/AF is better than mine in lower resolutions BIG time.

 

[freaksavior]

Why is it "retarded" to save a few bucks and get a single core? Why do you need a dual core for those two activities? I don't understand? Maybe I need to experience a dual core, I'm stuck with my P4 .

you probably got the answer, but! i had a p4 2.66 and i would convert a 700mb avi video to divx and it took about an hour, that video being roughly 2hr. I take my dual core e4300 (check sp) and i can convert 2 videos about the same length and space in under 20min. Dual core is just so much faster of a single core. and since virtually ever "new" app uses dual core it just make a lot more sense to go dual.

IMO-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827106057
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820141185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128062
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037
If you want an aftermarket cooler-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

Wow, very nice! i second that! nice build. btw, i have 2 of the seagate drives in raid 0 and i get a very nice 135mb read

 

[Rol87]

ok I think i am going to go with this:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813131014
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103029
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820134116 im not sure if 1G is alot I was thinking 512mb would be fine what do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822144701
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827106057

I got a case and i am going to use the PS that comes with it i know thats not recommended but with a budget not till maybe 2 weeks or so after i get it built then i will get a better one.