Windows 10 1H-2019 Update to Reduce Performance Impact of Spectre V2 Mitigations

btarunr · Oct 19, 2018

Microsoft is working to reduce the performance impact of "Spectre" V2 security vulnerability software mitigation with its next major update to Windows 10. The major update that's scheduled for the first half of 2019, will feature the "Retpoline" mitigation enabled on the operating system's kernel by default. Retpoline will be enabled in addition something Microsoft's OS kernel developer Mehmet Iyigun calls "import optimization." Together, the two reduce the impact of Spectre V2 software mitigation to "noise-level" (i.e. that which can be discounted for random variation, or minimal).

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Durvelle27 · Oct 19, 2018

I see more broken PCs in the future

Octopuss · Oct 19, 2018

I'll rather buy an AMD processor.

m4dn355 · Oct 19, 2018

Me too, intel is going dodo.

londiste · Oct 19, 2018

Octopuss said:
I'll rather buy an AMD processor.

m4dn355 said:
Me too, intel is going dodo.

This patch applies to AMD processors too.

phanbuey · Oct 19, 2018

nice!

m4dn355 · Oct 19, 2018

londiste said:
This patch applies to AMD processors too.

AMD's platform is Spectreless.

R-T-B · Oct 19, 2018

Octopuss said:
I'll rather buy an AMD processor.

AMD is affected by Spectre v2 as well. And the mitigations are global anyhow.

m4dn355 said:
AMD's platform is Spectreless.

Nope. You are thinking of Meltdown and Spectre variant 1.

m4dn355 · Oct 19, 2018

R-T-B said:
AMD is affected by Spectre v2 as well. And the mitigations are global anyhow.

Nope. You are thinking of Meltdown and Spectre variant 1.

You are right.
I can't keep track of all those vulnerabilities, patches, updates and so on. . .

SIGSEGV · Oct 19, 2018

R-T-B said:
AMD is affected by Spectre v2 as well. And the mitigations are global anyhow.

Nope. You are thinking of Meltdown and Spectre variant 1.

Not sure, if your statement is true.
https://www dot reddit dot com/r/Amd/comments/7o2i91/technical_analysis_of_spectre_meltdown/

This attack requires poisoning the CPU's BTB. This is easy on at least Intel Haswell CPUs (and probably some other Intel CPUs), because BTB entries are aliased in a very predictable way. Some recent ARM Cortex-A series CPU cores are reportedly vulnerable too, for the same reason. It is much more difficult on all AMD CPUs, because BTB entries are not aliased - the attacker must know (and be able to execute arbitrary code at) the exact address of the targeted branch instruction.

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R-T-B · Oct 19, 2018

SIGSEGV said:
Not sure, if your statement is true.
https://www dot reddit dot com/r/Amd/comments/7o2i91/technical_analysis_of_spectre_meltdown/

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It's true. Diffilcult does not equal impossible. AMD has since released AGESA updates for Spectre variant 2 so they clearly think it still needs patching.

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Windows 10 1H-2019 Update to Reduce Performance Impact of Spectre V2 Mitigations

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