Windows 10 can we talk?

[Vayra86]

I dont, I hit Start, and do this, hit enter...

 

[trickson]

I dont, I hit Start, and do this, hit enter...

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LOL. I just think they really need to start living things up there so stale and sterile it's like a child did it. no imagination. No artistic value at all just mind numbinglly plain. Get used to it Idiocracy lives.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I just wanna talk about the looks of windows 10.

So I really like all the new features and start menu I mean it all runs fast and sweet and has tons of new apps and goodies just one thing struck me as odd.
It looks like a five year old kid designed all the icons and menu displays in windows.
The posted screen shots say it all. No flare NO artistic quality at all, Nothing like the previous few OS's, Like they reverted to original windows. Windows 95 looked fancier.
So my question is why? Did they really think about this? It's like the quality of the OS is far better than ever yet the looks are far worse than ever.
Is it just me or did they sacrifice visual and aesthetically pleasing for speed and functionality? it's almost like they just couldn't combine the 2 yet.
Maybe it's just me but I think it could look a bit more aesthetically pleasing.
What do you think? After all the years of improvements why this?

they had to take it away to give it you back in a bit, the visual cleanliness is'nt that bad though just dull.

 

[Aquinus]

Ehhhh. I got kind of turned off after automatic updates did a major update and screwed up my machine twice. The first time it didn't estimate properly how much disk space the upgrade would take and it reverted the upgrade while leaving my SSD array full of crap because it ran out of space mid-upgrade. It was also in a funky state. The second time, it worked but, it screwed up so many drivers that it eventually just got to the point where is BSOD'ed every time on boot, even in safe mode. The second time made it so I couldn't actually use my computer for work on a day I wanted to work from home which was the last nail in the coffin. I honestly like Windows 10. As an OS, it works very well and I was pleased with it but, I simply won't tolerate using an OS that decides to do things that can render it inoperable without any user interaction... and even if I don't use it, I'm constantly fixing audio drivers on my wife's laptop because of updates and this isn't a problem I have with Ubuntu.

tl;dr: Windows 10 is great if you block Windows Update with the Windows firewall to prevent it from auto updating and disabling the rule when you want to update but, I shouldn't have to do that, so I use Ubuntu.

 

[er557]

No need to fuss- use windows update mini tool to disable auto updates. also use it to check for updates manually and decide for yourself what to install.

 

[neatfeatguy]

It's just like the fad of websites - Facebook is widely popular and has a godawful look (to me). Yet so many sites started to try and make themselves look/feel like FB.

I used to visit a handful of gaming sites years back, but they all took on the same awful look and all went with the clickbait articles that I rarely visit them these days. My HTPC has Win 10 on it and I'm not in that computer very much, just streaming movies from it to other devices, so I don't have to use it much, but minor things with Win 10 irritate me. For example, it's no longer called "My Computer"......it's now called "This PC" - seriously? WTF?

First time I installed Win 10 and was looking for My Computer, it boggled my mind that I couldn't find it. My younger brother had used Win 10 for a bit in a couple of college courses and told me it's now "This PC". It may just be a name change, but it irks me to no end. I don't enjoy much of Win 10 for the looks, but damn, that OS is fast to boot, even on a 5400RPM HDD RAID1 build.....as long as Windows isn't trying to update.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I used to visit a handful of gaming sites years back, but they all took on the same awful look and all went with the clickbait articles that I rarely visit them these days.

have you visited Youtube in the last day or two? if you dont like changes, your not going to be happy. for months they have been offering a "new experimental" version for members to try out (free public R&D) and after trying it for about 5 minutes, i was out of there, and back to the older version.....well, last night when i got home from friendlies, i opened YT, and Boom! that "tech preview" is now the default site(it may have just auto updated for me , i dunno if its the new default, sorry), i was so pissed, it looks and functions lie Dog$h!t.

i know they added a "dark theme" but that was already available thru my browser, and they say its a "faster framework" , but my daughter & I have noticed longer loading times over the old site.

just found this tho . & it updated on its own, i never chose to retry it, so others may need to revert thru this method if they find themselves in the same situation i was in.

 

[rtwjunkie]

YOU CAN NOT CHANGE THE LOOKS

You can, with aftermarket, such as ClassicShell or my personal favorite, Start10.

 

[neatfeatguy]

have you visited Youtube in the last day or two? if you dont like changes, your not going to be happy. for months they have been offering a "new experimental" version for members to try out (free public R&D) and after trying it for about 5 minutes, i was out of there, and back to the older version.....well, last night when i got home from friendlies, i opened YT, and Boom! that "tech preview" is now the default site(it may have just auto updated for me , i dunno if its the new default, sorry), i was so pissed, it looks and functions lie Dog$h!t.

i know they added a "dark theme" but that was already available thru my browser, and they say its a "faster framework" , but my daughter & I have noticed longer loading times over the old site.

just found this tho . & it updated on its own, i never chose to retry it, so others may need to revert thru this method if they find themselves in the same situation i was in.

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I don't really frequent youtube....in fact, it's been a handful of weeks since I was last on it and the new layout is fugly. I tried to "Restore old YouTube", but the layout is exactly the same as the new one (unless I'm missing some minor thing). To me, I guess it won't bother me since I rarely visit the site, but I can say with fact that I don't like it. Maybe it's different for someone that actually has an account setup with youtube, but I don't so I guess I'll never know.

 

[phill]

This may or may not be the place for this but, is anyone having any issues with when right clicking onto the icons on the taskbar, do they find sometimes they get a menu and sometimes they do not??...

 

[EarthDog]

Works fine for me.

 

[phill]

One of the things that drives me nuts in Windows 10... So far, Windows 7 gets my vote

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 have a unified design mentality:
1) make it low power (because tablets and laptops)
2) make it touch friendly
3) improve accessibility features for the visually and hearing impaired

All of the user interface changes serve one, or both, of those purposes. Windows 8/8.1 made the atrocious mistake of completely taking mice users for granted. Windows 10 basically merged the Windows 7 mice-centric design with the Windows 8 design that focused on the three elements above. The result is an operating system that is competent with both.

Examples:
1) Because of the minimalist UI design (especially no animations), the GPU can almost completely shut off when just displaying the static desktop conserving a lot of power.
2) The start menu, the change to settings, and the big buttons and sliders everywhere are to allow enough area for big fingers to touch without touching something accidentally.
3) Most people think Cortana during setup is annoying but, imagine if you were blind. Cortana can take you through the bulk of the set up by simply using your voice. Another example is that changing DPI actually works as expected now.

They've hidden the old Control Panel and similar legacy UI because they haven't (or reasonably can't) update it to support touch. It's still available if you need it but they're trying to move as much as they can to the touch-friendly Settings.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Windows 8/8.1 made the atrocious mistake of completely taking mice users for granted.

The atrocious mistake, pushed by the MS marketing department and backed by MS execs, was Microsoft shoving the new (totally inflexible ) "Metro" UI down users throats on the arrogant assumption we would automatically love and accept it. Their scam... err... scheme ...err... plan was for everyone to fall in love with the new UI so when users went shopping for a new smart phone, they would pickup a Windows Phone and immediately be familiar with it, fall in love with it, and buy it instead of an iPhone or Android phone.

I don't think W8 took mouse users for granted. I think it dismissed and ignored mouse users and instead, wanted to push everyone to touchscreens. Why? Because the Windows Phone used touchscreens and Microsoft was failing miserably in the smartphone market.

In reality, W8 was a great OS - if you define an OS as a "secure" program designed to facilitate communications between all the hardware and software. The developers did a great job there and I am convinced they would have also made a great, very flexible and intuitive UI had the marketing weenies and execs (and their bean counters) kept their mitts out of the design process and didn't interfere with the development.

I am also convinced Microsoft shot itself in the foot, or rather both feet with that atrocious W8 mistake. The PC market was already declining due to more and more users moving to handheld devices for all their computing needs. Microsoft's marketing and executive misguided, bungled direction with W8 just convinced millions and millions more users (and government agencies and big corporations) to stick with W7 and not invest in new hardware technologies, and W8. This mistake just perpetuated and accelerated the decline in PC sales which continues to decline despite the rise in demand for "gaming" PCs.

How's that from someone often accused of being a Microsoft shill?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Windows 10 is what Windows 8 should have been. Steve Ballmer got fired for a reason. It wasn't just Windows 10/8 though, it was abandoning PC gamers in favor of Xbox gamers, failing to make Windows Phone an open platform so it could succeed against Android, pouring so many resources into Windows 8 RT only to squander it on expensive pet products like Surface RT and Windows Phone, and the list goes on and on. Yeah, Ballmer overall grew the company but it alienated a lot of loyalists along the way.

 

[EarthDog]

One thing trickson hasn't forgotten in three years is to spam the like button.

 

[trickson]

One thing trickson hasn't forgotten in three years is to spam the like button.

Why is it there then?
I like the LIKE button.

 

[EarthDog]

Just giving you some flak since you have been gone.

But to answer, thanks/like is useless when its used in damn near every post. Dilutes the meaning quite a bit. I have been asking this place to add a 'like' limit for years as the people here like to beat on that button quite a bit.

 

[trickson]

Just giving you some flak since you have been gone.

But to answer, thanks/like is useless when its used in damn near every post. Dilutes the meaning quite a bit. I have been asking this place to add a 'like' limit for years as the people here like to beat on that button quite a bit.

LOL I liked you again!!

To be honest it is unfair to have one without the other. An Un-Like button would get the same if not MORE abuse. So why not just like everyone? Tis the new age of Like minds!

 

[Upgrayedd]

If you want to talk to Win10, talk to Cortana.
That is a much much bigger disappointment than some flare. Along with forced updates that you cannot turn off. They begged and begged people to voluntarily update their systems to Win10 then once they did they force you out of optional future updates. Can I download that Chinese version?

 

[Bill_Bright]

Windows 10 is what Windows 8 should have been.

I agree 100%. Even 8.1 was not enough to fix it.

FTR, Steve Ballmer was not fired. You don't fire someone then let them stay in the same CEO position for 7 more months. When someone is fired, they are escorted out the door and all access privileges are terminated so they cannot do any damage on their way out.

The board did announce a restructuring at Microsoft and did announce that will include a new CEO "within the next year", but it was by mutual agreement he would "retire". And the board did not offer any incentive for him to stay. So clearly there was not a lot of love lost.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are never "fired" in a traditional sense. They're pushed out of the plane with a golden parachute. That's off topic though.

 

[Frick]

LOL. I just think they really need to start living things up there so stale and sterile it's like a child did it. no imagination. No artistic value at all just mind numbinglly plain. Get used to it Idiocracy lives.

So what OS does have imaginitive artistic values in its icons?

And "Idiocracy lives" is a term only used by aholes and - strangely enough - idiots.

 

[trickson]

So what OS does have imaginitive artistic values in its icons?

And "Idiocracy lives" is a term only used by aholes and - strangely enough - idiots.

I would have to say windows 98 was a nice one then XP it was really nice looking. windows vista was windows 7 was also really nice I liked the look and feel as well.
Windows Vista by far had the most visual stimulation IMHO.

 

[erocker]

Try messing around with rainmeter. Lots of desktop customization stuff. https://www.rainmeter.net/