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Windows 10 pro. Connect two old Tvs.

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I have a problem with my Windows 10 pro. When i change tv to a Toshiba 46tl963 from 2012 and later change back to the resolution that the old Panasonic TH-42PV500E from 2005 can handle. I get pc no signal. I see my Asrock formula OC Z590 motherboard logo but when Windows should loss the screen went black.

Do i need to have 2 saved information files about my Tvs in Windows? I run them from a DVI adapter to VGA. It gives the best picture. Hdmi on old Tvs is not the best. The Windows meny bär down below always get out of screen. What resolution i choice.
 
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old Panasonic TH-42PV500E
I'm sitting next to my 2006 TH-42PV500E (with large floor stand). Sometimes I connect it to a desktop PC, but I use the HDMI output from my GPU, not VGA (via DVI). I tend to use the plasma TV as a second display, with 24in monitor attached to the DVI output of the computer as the primary display. Both screens run at different resolutions, with no intervention on my part.

I know the Panasonic is a native 720p HD-ready display. On page 41 of the manual it states the computer VGA signal display resolution is 1,024 × 768 dots when the aspect mode is set to “16:9” (TH-42PV500E) and 768 × 768 dots when the aspect mode is set to “4:3” (which I doubt you're using).

1024 by 768 is an old computer screen resolution with an aspect ratio of 1.333 and square pixels? on an old-fashioned 4 by 3 monitor or non-widescreen TV.

A 16 by 9 TV has an aspect ratio of 1.777. When displaying 1024 by 768 pixels on the Panasonic, the computer's GPU pixels will be stretched horizontally to fill the 1.777 aspect ratio screen, forming small rectangles. This is part of the reason why this TV is not ideal for computer use, because you're not mapping pixels at 1:1 from the GPU to the TV.

In addition, if the TV is only capable of displaying 720 lines, what happens to the extra 48 lines of a 768 signal. It might explain why you lose the Windows menu bar off the bottom of the screen. I seem to remember when I was using the VGA output from a media PC back in 2008, I invoked the under-scanning option in my computer's graphics driver, to squash all the VGA lines into the 720 lines available on the TV. This further degraded the quality of the picture, because 768 GPU lines don't match 720 TV lines 1:1.

It seems likely that when I used the HDMI input to the Panasonic earlier this year, my Windows 10 computer set the secondary display to 720p, matching the number of lines on the TV screen exactly. That's a good reason to use HDMI instead of DVI/VGA, if your GPU has an unused HDMI output. I would have thought the bandwidth on HDMI and VGA signals would be similar, so the main reason for blurring is failing to match pixels 1:1.

I've long since switched to a 55in OLED Panasonic from 2017 for my main viewing at 4K HDR using a media PC. The old plasma TV is relegated to the computer room and I have a new 42in OLED Panasonic in the bedroom. By the way, I recently discovered the plasma TV consumes 20W of power in standby mode. It's a good idea to switch it off properly at the front, so the amber LED isn't shining.

Do i need to have 2 saved information files about my Tvs in Windows?
I don't think that's the way Windows works. I just let Windows sort out the "best fit"each time I connect to HDMI on a laptop or desktop. The computer asks the TV what aspect ratios and scan rates it supports via HDMI, then sets the most appropriate option. VGA is a fixed "take it or leave it" output. You have to manually change the VGA port's output resolution and scan rate to suit the TV. What the TV does with incorrect VGA resolutions is in the lap of the gods.

Toshiba 46tl963 from 2012
If you're using a VGA input on the Toshiba (I haven't checked the spec.) and it's Full HD, you might be using a higher Windows resolution, e.g. 1280 by 1024, or 1366 by 768, which is incompatible with the Panasonic.
 
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Thanks for the detailed desription. I think i solved it by changing resolution from the Toshiba 46tl963 before changing to Panasonic. I can have 1280*1024 on my Panasonic with 60hz. Or the fault is that i must wait a bit before change. The 1920 resultion on the Toshiba does not surely work on the Panasonic. I also discovered that my 2 DVI to VGA adapters seems to work different. I got one with my Nvidia geforce fx 5200 from around 2004 it only shows 1280. My newer adapter from 2023 shows 1920.

I must say that it is pretty good picture on the Panasonic for being from 2006. It depends much on the bitrate of the video files to. The resolution is not all. The bitrate is. The toshiba has even better picture in 1080p and detailed colors. Even with vga it gives perfect picture. The HDMI is hard to get right. The Windows activity field only gets out of picture. It gives right with low resolution like 1024 but it is to small on that tv. It also does not fit the whole screen then. I guess it takes newer to get the HDMI right.

My computer monitor AOC CU34G2XP/BK from 2023 takes around 59w while being on. https://www.techpowerup.com/316316/...34g2xe-and-cu34g2xp-ultrawide-gaming-monitors
 
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